Hello,
Recently a friend noticed a sudden improvement at Translate.wiki, concerning Wikipedia in Limburgish (li.WP). All remaining untranslated items (28,18%) have been translated in one time. This is quite unusual.
When he told me about, I looked up again what I had written about (small) Wikipedia language editions in my handbook (in German): http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Ziko/Handbuch-Titel . I then, in 2008, found li.WP relatively good, but there were also some difficulties, for example the lack of a technical vocabulary.
When I now checked Wikimedia Statistics again, I was stunned by very impressive figures. For example, during 2009 the number of editors with 100< edits a month increased from 13 to 37. I believe that li.WP is nowadays the best among those of small Germanic languages. Nearly all articles have encyclopedic quality and show a lot of pictures, maybe sometimes a little too many.
When I examined the background I found out that most of the li.Wikipedians indicate their real names and many are women. With permission, here what Gebroeker:JennySteen wrote to me:
'I started editing in November 2008. Because I knew nobody I asked friends to join. Most of us study at the university of Mestreech. […] We meet nearly every week in a local café and talk in Limburgish to keep our language skils fresh.'
Jenny explains about the unusual appearance of the site: 'We did not like the original colours because they where cold and ugly. User pages now have nice orange tones, and talk pages a green background that helps to keep aggressiveness down.'
Jenny: 'When there is a conflict I talk to the person in the café. It may happen that we ask a guy to stop visiting and editing for a week or two, and after he has cooled down he is welcomed again to sit with us.' On the other hand, if someone did well: 'We copy and paste lovely icons on the user page, like flowers and kittys. Unfortunately there was a case that someone misbehaved to a new user, and we had to take those icons away.'
But there is still a problem: maintaining a Wikipedia language edition means also doing a lot of technical stuff. The gals from Limburg would love to see users from other language editions supporting them with MediaWiki extensions, geolocalisation and the not so easy aspects of categorization. http://li.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebroeker:JennySteen
Ziko
Ziko,
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@googlemail.com wrote:
When he told me about, I looked up again what I had written about (small) Wikipedia language editions in my handbook (in German): http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Ziko/Handbuch-Titel . I then, in 2008, found li.WP relatively good, but there were also some difficulties, for example the lack of a technical vocabulary.
Thanks for reminding us of your book on multilingual Wikipedias! It's amazing. It would be lovely to expand this to all languages, to have a comprehensive Wikipedia handbook!
When I examined the background I found out that most of the li.Wikipedians indicate their real names and many are women. With permission, here what Gebroeker:JennySteen wrote to me:
wow! This is really unusual and interesting. Do you think it is just because of the effect of having a small community centered around this group of editors?
btw I am not seeing the color changes for user pages.. and maybe http://li.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebroeker:JennySteen edits under a different account?
-- phoebe
Dear Phoebe,
You make my day! Actually, it should have been yesterday, but I am afraid most people did not notice my Aprils fool item.
Once I thought translating my Handbook into English, but other things gained priority. Especially my textbook I am due to have finished on July 1st, and about which I was still going to ask you questions - you are more experienced still.
Kind regards Ziko
2010/4/2 phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com:
Ziko,
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@googlemail.com wrote:
When he told me about, I looked up again what I had written about (small) Wikipedia language editions in my handbook (in German): http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Ziko/Handbuch-Titel . I then, in 2008, found li.WP relatively good, but there were also some difficulties, for example the lack of a technical vocabulary.
Thanks for reminding us of your book on multilingual Wikipedias! It's amazing. It would be lovely to expand this to all languages, to have a comprehensive Wikipedia handbook!
When I examined the background I found out that most of the li.Wikipedians indicate their real names and many are women. With permission, here what Gebroeker:JennySteen wrote to me:
wow! This is really unusual and interesting. Do you think it is just because of the effect of having a small community centered around this group of editors?
btw I am not seeing the color changes for user pages.. and maybe http://li.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebroeker:JennySteen edits under a different account?
-- phoebe
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ha! UTC-time ftw. Your message shows up as arriving on Wed 31 for me, thus I gave you a serious answer! :)
And your handbook really is great :)
- Phoebe
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@googlemail.com wrote:
Dear Phoebe,
You make my day! Actually, it should have been yesterday, but I am afraid most people did not notice my Aprils fool item.
Once I thought translating my Handbook into English, but other things gained priority. Especially my textbook I am due to have finished on July 1st, and about which I was still going to ask you questions - you are more experienced still.
Kind regards Ziko
2010/4/2 phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com:
Ziko,
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@googlemail.com wrote:
When he told me about, I looked up again what I had written about (small) Wikipedia language editions in my handbook (in German): http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Ziko/Handbuch-Titel . I then, in 2008, found li.WP relatively good, but there were also some difficulties, for example the lack of a technical vocabulary.
Thanks for reminding us of your book on multilingual Wikipedias! It's amazing. It would be lovely to expand this to all languages, to have a comprehensive Wikipedia handbook!
When I examined the background I found out that most of the li.Wikipedians indicate their real names and many are women. With permission, here what Gebroeker:JennySteen wrote to me:
wow! This is really unusual and interesting. Do you think it is just because of the effect of having a small community centered around this group of editors?
btw I am not seeing the color changes for user pages.. and maybe http://li.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebroeker:JennySteen edits under a different account?
-- phoebe
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