Hi all,
I'm Shun, Japanese wikipedian.
I attended Wikimania and saw Florence's session. I think that was a great pretentation.
Please give me the presentation file. I intend to show it to the Japanese people that didn't come to wikimania with my impression.
Thanks.
I do not think it is published anywhere, you are going to have to e-mail her for a copy, but keep in mind that she may not have it typed up or might just not share! :-P
On 8/8/07, Shun Fukuzawa shfukuzawa@jcom.home.ne.jp wrote:
Hi all,
I'm Shun, Japanese wikipedian.
I attended Wikimania and saw Florence's session. I think that was a great pretentation.
Please give me the presentation file. I intend to show it to the Japanese people that didn't come to wikimania with my impression.
Thanks.
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As far as I know, all the slides of all the presentations will be published.
Please easy guys, we are just coming back from Taipei, after a journey of nearly 24 hours.
On 08/08/07, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think it is published anywhere, you are going to have to e-mail her for a copy, but keep in mind that she may not have it typed up or might just not share! :-P
On 8/8/07, Shun Fukuzawa shfukuzawa@jcom.home.ne.jp wrote:
Hi all,
I'm Shun, Japanese wikipedian.
I attended Wikimania and saw Florence's session. I think that was a great pretentation.
Please give me the presentation file. I intend to show it to the Japanese people that didn't come to wikimania with my impression.
Thanks.
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They should be, but isn't (s)he talking about the opening speech? If so, I don't think *that* will be published, but of course, I could be and have been wrong.
On 8/8/07, Christophe Henner christophe.henner@gmail.com wrote:
As far as I know, all the slides of all the presentations will be published.
Please easy guys, we are just coming back from Taipei, after a journey of nearly 24 hours.
On 08/08/07, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think it is published anywhere, you are going to have to e-mail
her
for a copy, but keep in mind that she may not have it typed up or might
just
not share! :-P
On 8/8/07, Shun Fukuzawa shfukuzawa@jcom.home.ne.jp wrote:
Hi all,
I'm Shun, Japanese wikipedian.
I attended Wikimania and saw Florence's session. I think that was a great pretentation.
Please give me the presentation file. I intend to show it to the Japanese people that didn't come to wikimania with my impression.
Thanks.
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She, not he, please.
I see NO reason why it should not be published. Consider it a ccbysa generally.
I thought I could upload it this evening, but... the slides are ppt (as Wikimania participants know...); I just tried to save them in odt, but it changes the color of the text in various places. I tried to change the colors to black again and Open Office froze. So just as I explained a few days ago, I'll use ooo when and only when it deserve the title of "helpful tool". Meanwhile, Shun, I appreciate your support and will send you the ppt slides. More interesting perhaps will be the record. But I have no idea if recording really worked at Wikimania and if or when it will be stored on our site.
ant
Casey Brown wrote:
They should be, but isn't (s)he talking about the opening speech? If so, I don't think *that* will be published, but of course, I could be and have been wrong.
On 8/8/07, Christophe Henner christophe.henner@gmail.com wrote:
As far as I know, all the slides of all the presentations will be published.
Please easy guys, we are just coming back from Taipei, after a journey of nearly 24 hours.
On 08/08/07, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think it is published anywhere, you are going to have to e-mail
her
for a copy, but keep in mind that she may not have it typed up or might
just
not share! :-P
On 8/8/07, Shun Fukuzawa shfukuzawa@jcom.home.ne.jp wrote:
Hi all,
I'm Shun, Japanese wikipedian.
I attended Wikimania and saw Florence's session. I think that was a great pretentation.
Please give me the presentation file. I intend to show it to the Japanese people that didn't come to wikimania with my impression.
Thanks.
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Can you send us a link when you upload it? :) I would like to see it as well! :-P
On 8/8/07, Florence Devouard Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
She, not he, please.
I see NO reason why it should not be published. Consider it a ccbysa generally.
I thought I could upload it this evening, but... the slides are ppt (as Wikimania participants know...); I just tried to save them in odt, but it changes the color of the text in various places. I tried to change the colors to black again and Open Office froze. So just as I explained a few days ago, I'll use ooo when and only when it deserve the title of "helpful tool". Meanwhile, Shun, I appreciate your support and will send you the ppt slides. More interesting perhaps will be the record. But I have no idea if recording really worked at Wikimania and if or when it will be stored on our site.
ant
Casey Brown wrote:
They should be, but isn't (s)he talking about the opening speech? If
so, I
don't think *that* will be published, but of course, I could be and have been wrong.
On 8/8/07, Christophe Henner christophe.henner@gmail.com wrote:
As far as I know, all the slides of all the presentations will be published.
Please easy guys, we are just coming back from Taipei, after a journey of nearly 24 hours.
On 08/08/07, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think it is published anywhere, you are going to have to
her
for a copy, but keep in mind that she may not have it typed up or
might
just
not share! :-P
On 8/8/07, Shun Fukuzawa shfukuzawa@jcom.home.ne.jp wrote:
Hi all,
I'm Shun, Japanese wikipedian.
I attended Wikimania and saw Florence's session. I think that was a great pretentation.
Please give me the presentation file. I intend to show it to the Japanese people that didn't come to wikimania with my impression.
Thanks.
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Once Anthere uploaded the slides, I believe there will be someone helped to convert the slides to .odt/.pdf or whatever. :)
The organization team is still working on the recording videos from DV tapes. You could see http://wikimania.tw/streaming/ for some rough taste (they are videos from day 2 to day 3 and might have some dropped frames or other issues for it's been ripped directly from the live streaming). Day 1 videos are on DV tapes and not uploaded yet.
Thanks for Academia Sinica, Taiwan for the support on server.
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Think Different, Do Smarter, Work for Joy!!
From: Casey Brown
Can you send us a link when you upload it? :) I would like to see it as well! :-P
On 8/8/07, Florence Devouard Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
She, not he, please.
I see NO reason why it should not be published. Consider it a ccbysa generally.
I thought I could upload it this evening, but... the slides are ppt (as Wikimania participants know...); I just tried to save them in odt, but it changes the color of the text in various places. I tried to change the colors to black again and Open Office froze. So just as I explained a few days ago, I'll use ooo when and only when it deserve the title of "helpful tool". Meanwhile, Shun, I appreciate your support and will send you the ppt slides. More interesting perhaps will be the record. But I have no idea if recording really worked at Wikimania and if or when it will be stored on our site.
ant
Casey Brown wrote:
They should be, but isn't (s)he talking about the opening speech? If
so, I
don't think *that* will be published, but of course, I could be and
have
been wrong.
On 8/8/07, Christophe Henner christophe.henner@gmail.com wrote:
As far as I know, all the slides of all the presentations will be published.
Please easy guys, we are just coming back from Taipei, after a
journey
of nearly 24 hours.
On 08/08/07, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think it is published anywhere, you are going to have to
her
for a copy, but keep in mind that she may not have it typed up or
might
just
not share! :-P
On 8/8/07, Shun Fukuzawa shfukuzawa@jcom.home.ne.jp wrote:
Hi all,
I'm Shun, Japanese wikipedian.
I attended Wikimania and saw Florence's session. I think that was a great pretentation.
Please give me the presentation file. I intend to show it to the Japanese people that didn't come to wikimania with my impression.
Thanks.
Hmmmm
I sent the slides yesterday to Shun, but his mail box rejected the document as being too big.
I tried to open it in OpenOffice, and it messed. Text colors being wrong mostly. Then, I thought I could open it as ppt and save it as pdf, but ... powerpoint does not save stuff in pdf...
So... HELP ! :-) Does someone have a mailbox accepting a powerpoint, to save it as odt or as pdf or anything suitable ? Kat, can you help on this ?
Ant
Hsiang-Tai (Ted) Chien wrote:
Once Anthere uploaded the slides, I believe there will be someone helped to convert the slides to .odt/.pdf or whatever. :)
The organization team is still working on the recording videos from DV tapes. You could see http://wikimania.tw/streaming/ for some rough taste (they are videos from day 2 to day 3 and might have some dropped frames or other issues for it's been ripped directly from the live streaming). Day 1 videos are on DV tapes and not uploaded yet.
Thanks for Academia Sinica, Taiwan for the support on server.
-- H.T. (Ted) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Htchien
Think Different, Do Smarter, Work for Joy!!
From: Casey Brown
Can you send us a link when you upload it? :) I would like to see it as well! :-P
On 8/8/07, Florence Devouard Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
She, not he, please.
I see NO reason why it should not be published. Consider it a ccbysa generally.
I thought I could upload it this evening, but... the slides are ppt (as Wikimania participants know...); I just tried to save them in odt, but it changes the color of the text in various places. I tried to change the colors to black again and Open Office froze. So just as I explained a few days ago, I'll use ooo when and only when it deserve the title of "helpful tool". Meanwhile, Shun, I appreciate your support and will send you the ppt slides. More interesting perhaps will be the record. But I have no idea if recording really worked at Wikimania and if or when it will be stored on our site.
ant
Casey Brown wrote:
They should be, but isn't (s)he talking about the opening speech? If
so, I
don't think *that* will be published, but of course, I could be and
have
been wrong.
On 8/8/07, Christophe Henner christophe.henner@gmail.com wrote:
As far as I know, all the slides of all the presentations will be published.
Please easy guys, we are just coming back from Taipei, after a
journey
of nearly 24 hours.
On 08/08/07, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think it is published anywhere, you are going to have to
her
for a copy, but keep in mind that she may not have it typed up or
might
just
not share! :-P
On 8/8/07, Shun Fukuzawa shfukuzawa@jcom.home.ne.jp wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm Shun, Japanese wikipedian. > > I attended Wikimania and saw Florence's session. I think that was a > great pretentation. > > Please give me the presentation file. I intend to show it to the > Japanese people that didn't come to wikimania with my impression. > > Thanks.
Mohamed Magdy wrote:
Florence Devouard wrote:
So... HELP ! :-) Does someone have a mailbox accepting a powerpoint, to save it as odt or as pdf or anything suitable ? Kat, can you help on this ?
Have you tried adding it to a zip file then send it?
Ant
true. New attempt, it goes down 13%. We'll see if it goes through :-)
ant
Mohamed Magdy wrote:
Florence Devouard wrote:
So... HELP ! :-) Does someone have a mailbox accepting a powerpoint, to save it as odt or
as pdf or anything suitable ? Kat, can you help on this ?
Have you tried adding it to a zip file then send it?
Ant
true. New attempt, it goes down 13%. We'll see if it goes through :-)
Don't you have some webspace somewhere? I can temporarily give you space on http://www.wikinewsie.org to share the file.
Brianmc
yousendit.com will facilitate sending a file up to 100 megs. For even larger files there are some services out there, google "send large file", but I haven't used any other than yousendit.
Anthony
On 8/9/07, Brian McNeil brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
Mohamed Magdy wrote:
Florence Devouard wrote:
So... HELP ! :-) Does someone have a mailbox accepting a powerpoint, to save it as odt or
as pdf or anything suitable ? Kat, can you help on this ?
Have you tried adding it to a zip file then send it?
Ant
true. New attempt, it goes down 13%. We'll see if it goes through :-)
Don't you have some webspace somewhere? I can temporarily give you space on http://www.wikinewsie.org to share the file.
Brianmc
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Hi,
Sorry, I use a cheap prover :/ If you can, please send it to mailto:yukichi@gmail.com . But Gmail can accept 10Mb file attachment. Or upload to proper site.
Florence Devouard wrote:
Hmmmm
I sent the slides yesterday to Shun, but his mail box rejected the document as being too big.
I tried to open it in OpenOffice, and it messed. Text colors being wrong mostly. Then, I thought I could open it as ppt and save it as pdf, but ... powerpoint does not save stuff in pdf...
So... HELP ! :-) Does someone have a mailbox accepting a powerpoint, to save it as odt or as pdf or anything suitable ? Kat, can you help on this ?
Ant
Hsiang-Tai (Ted) Chien wrote:
Once Anthere uploaded the slides, I believe there will be someone helped to convert the slides to .odt/.pdf or whatever. :)
The organization team is still working on the recording videos from DV tapes. You could see http://wikimania.tw/streaming/ for some rough taste (they are videos from day 2 to day 3 and might have some dropped frames or other issues for it's been ripped directly from the live streaming). Day 1 videos are on DV tapes and not uploaded yet.
Thanks for Academia Sinica, Taiwan for the support on server.
-- H.T. (Ted) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Htchien
Think Different, Do Smarter, Work for Joy!!
From: Casey Brown
Can you send us a link when you upload it? :) I would like to see it as well! :-P
On 8/8/07, Florence Devouard Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
She, not he, please.
I see NO reason why it should not be published. Consider it a ccbysa generally.
I thought I could upload it this evening, but... the slides are ppt (as Wikimania participants know...); I just tried to save them in odt, but it changes the color of the text in various places. I tried to change the colors to black again and Open Office froze. So just as I explained a few days ago, I'll use ooo when and only when it deserve the title of "helpful tool". Meanwhile, Shun, I appreciate your support and will send you the ppt slides. More interesting perhaps will be the record. But I have no idea if recording really worked at Wikimania and if or when it will be stored on our site.
ant
Casey Brown wrote:
They should be, but isn't (s)he talking about the opening speech? If
so, I
don't think *that* will be published, but of course, I could be and
have
been wrong.
On 8/8/07, Christophe Henner christophe.henner@gmail.com wrote:
As far as I know, all the slides of all the presentations will be published.
Please easy guys, we are just coming back from Taipei, after a
journey
of nearly 24 hours.
On 08/08/07, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote: > I do not think it is published anywhere, you are going to have to
her > for a copy, but keep in mind that she may not have it typed up or
might
just > not share! :-P > > > On 8/8/07, Shun Fukuzawa shfukuzawa@jcom.home.ne.jp wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm Shun, Japanese wikipedian. >> >> I attended Wikimania and saw Florence's session. I think that was a >> great pretentation. >> >> Please give me the presentation file. I intend to show it to the >> Japanese people that didn't come to wikimania with my impression. >> >> Thanks.
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Shun Fukuzawa wrote:
Hi,
Sorry, I use a cheap prover :/
Do not worry. It can not be worse than mine :-) Mine is down at least once a month, and frequently put wikimedia.org on a black list. No respect :-(
Gianluigi made a pdf version, which I will upload somewhere, and I just tried to send to you again.
As for me, I am waiting with great expectation to see all presentations recording and slides uploaded. I missed some presentations with great regret and I look forward watching at the records.
ant
If you can, please send it to mailto:yukichi@gmail.com . But Gmail can accept 10Mb file attachment. Or upload to proper site.
Florence Devouard wrote:
Hmmmm
I sent the slides yesterday to Shun, but his mail box rejected the document as being too big.
I tried to open it in OpenOffice, and it messed. Text colors being wrong mostly. Then, I thought I could open it as ppt and save it as pdf, but ... powerpoint does not save stuff in pdf...
So... HELP ! :-) Does someone have a mailbox accepting a powerpoint, to save it as odt or as pdf or anything suitable ? Kat, can you help on this ?
Ant
Hsiang-Tai (Ted) Chien wrote:
Once Anthere uploaded the slides, I believe there will be someone helped to convert the slides to .odt/.pdf or whatever. :)
The organization team is still working on the recording videos from DV tapes. You could see http://wikimania.tw/streaming/ for some rough taste (they are videos from day 2 to day 3 and might have some dropped frames or other issues for it's been ripped directly from the live streaming). Day 1 videos are on DV tapes and not uploaded yet.
Thanks for Academia Sinica, Taiwan for the support on server.
-- H.T. (Ted) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Htchien
Think Different, Do Smarter, Work for Joy!!
From: Casey Brown
Can you send us a link when you upload it? :) I would like to see it as well! :-P
On 8/8/07, Florence Devouard Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
She, not he, please.
I see NO reason why it should not be published. Consider it a ccbysa generally.
I thought I could upload it this evening, but... the slides are ppt (as Wikimania participants know...); I just tried to save them in odt, but it changes the color of the text in various places. I tried to change the colors to black again and Open Office froze. So just as I explained a few days ago, I'll use ooo when and only when it deserve the title of "helpful tool". Meanwhile, Shun, I appreciate your support and will send you the ppt slides. More interesting perhaps will be the record. But I have no idea if recording really worked at Wikimania and if or when it will be stored on our site.
ant
Casey Brown wrote:
They should be, but isn't (s)he talking about the opening speech? If
so, I
don't think *that* will be published, but of course, I could be and
have
been wrong.
On 8/8/07, Christophe Henner christophe.henner@gmail.com wrote: > As far as I know, all the slides of all the presentations will be > published. > > Please easy guys, we are just coming back from Taipei, after a
journey
> of nearly 24 hours. > > On 08/08/07, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote: >> I do not think it is published anywhere, you are going to have to
> her >> for a copy, but keep in mind that she may not have it typed up or
might
> just >> not share! :-P >> >> >> On 8/8/07, Shun Fukuzawa shfukuzawa@jcom.home.ne.jp wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm Shun, Japanese wikipedian. >>> >>> I attended Wikimania and saw Florence's session. I think that was a >>> great pretentation. >>> >>> Please give me the presentation file. I intend to show it to the >>> Japanese people that didn't come to wikimania with my impression. >>> >>> Thanks.
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if i'm correct, odt wont work either to be uploaded. You can try to convert to pdf though. That generally works fine for presentations.
BR, Lodewijk
2007/8/9, Florence Devouard Anthere9@yahoo.com:
She, not he, please.
I see NO reason why it should not be published. Consider it a ccbysa generally.
I thought I could upload it this evening, but... the slides are ppt (as Wikimania participants know...); I just tried to save them in odt, but it changes the color of the text in various places. I tried to change the colors to black again and Open Office froze. So just as I explained a few days ago, I'll use ooo when and only when it deserve the title of "helpful tool". Meanwhile, Shun, I appreciate your support and will send you the ppt slides. More interesting perhaps will be the record. But I have no idea if recording really worked at Wikimania and if or when it will be stored on our site.
ant
Casey Brown wrote:
They should be, but isn't (s)he talking about the opening speech? If
so, I
don't think *that* will be published, but of course, I could be and have been wrong.
On 8/8/07, Christophe Henner christophe.henner@gmail.com wrote:
As far as I know, all the slides of all the presentations will be published.
Please easy guys, we are just coming back from Taipei, after a journey of nearly 24 hours.
On 08/08/07, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think it is published anywhere, you are going to have to
her
for a copy, but keep in mind that she may not have it typed up or
might
just
not share! :-P
On 8/8/07, Shun Fukuzawa shfukuzawa@jcom.home.ne.jp wrote:
Hi all,
I'm Shun, Japanese wikipedian.
I attended Wikimania and saw Florence's session. I think that was a great pretentation.
Please give me the presentation file. I intend to show it to the Japanese people that didn't come to wikimania with my impression.
Thanks.
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On 09/08/07, effe iets anders effeietsanders@gmail.com wrote:
if i'm correct, odt wont work either to be uploaded. You can try to convert to pdf though. That generally works fine for presentations.
BR, Lodewijk
Ugh PDF. Well *that* sucks.
lol, I feel bad for you man! All of the Wikimania copies are in PDF (well almost all).
On 8/8/07, Majorly axel9891@googlemail.com wrote:
On 09/08/07, effe iets anders effeietsanders@gmail.com wrote:
if i'm correct, odt wont work either to be uploaded. You can try to convert to pdf though. That generally works fine for presentations.
BR, Lodewijk
Ugh PDF. Well *that* sucks.
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On 09/08/07, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote:
lol, I feel bad for you man! All of the Wikimania copies are in PDF (well almost all).
Copies of what?
The presentations.
On 8/8/07, Majorly axel9891@googlemail.com wrote:
On 09/08/07, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote:
lol, I feel bad for you man! All of the Wikimania copies are in PDF
(well
almost all).
Copies of what?
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On 09/08/07, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote:
The presentations.
On 8/8/07, Majorly axel9891@googlemail.com wrote:
On 09/08/07, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote:
lol, I feel bad for you man! All of the Wikimania copies are in PDF
(well
almost all).
Copies of what?
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Well I'm sure you can give me the gist of it ;)
On 8/9/07, effe iets anders effeietsanders@gmail.com wrote:
if i'm correct, odt wont work either to be uploaded. You can try to convert to pdf though. That generally works fine for presentations.
BR, Lodewijk
Saving it and uploading in .sxi (the old OpenOffice presentation format) also works -- at least, I was able to upload mine -- though I agree that it'd be nice to just upload the .odt as created.
-Kat
On 8/9/07, Florence Devouard Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
I thought I could upload it this evening, but... the slides are ppt (as Wikimania participants know...); I just tried to save them in odt, but it changes the color of the text in various places. I tried to change the colors to black again and Open Office froze. So just as I explained a few days ago, I'll use ooo when and only when it deserve the title of "helpful tool".
One comment on this: though I think the rest of it went well, I was disappointed that your answer on the Wikimania panel spoke more about the detail of the difficulties of using OpenOffice for presentations than the importance of supporting free tools.
My presentation was done in OpenOffice; I saved in it .ppt format to run on the Windows machine doing presentations and it worked perfectly there, not because I'm good at using it or because I did anything special, but because it just worked without me having to think about it.
Importing and exporting from each other, especially from older versions, are a sticky point in both pieces of software (though most of the time it works fine), but that's not much of a failure of the free tool on its own.
I'm not going to argue that all free tools are as good as their proprietary counterparts (some are worse, some are better), but I think Impress and PowerPoint are equally as bad, and in the same ways. :-)
-Kat
Kat Walsh wrote:
I'm not going to argue that all free tools are as good as their proprietary counterparts (some are worse, some are better), but I think Impress and PowerPoint are equally as bad, and in the same ways. :-)
This is starting to drift off-topic, but for those looking for free-software presentation options other than Impress, LaTeX with either Prosper or Beamer is very easy to use unless you're doing fancy animation or layout stuff. If you just want some images and bullet points (as with 95% of presentations), in prosper for example you just do something like:
\begin{slide}{Your Slide's Title Here} \begin{itemize} \item Bullet point 1 \item Bullet point 2 \end{itemize} \end{slide}
And it automagically generates a slide with 2 bullet points. Added bonus: inserting equations is much easier than with either PowerPoint or Impress.
-Mark
Kat Walsh wrote:
On 8/9/07, Florence Devouard Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
I thought I could upload it this evening, but... the slides are ppt (as Wikimania participants know...); I just tried to save them in odt, but it changes the color of the text in various places. I tried to change the colors to black again and Open Office froze. So just as I explained a few days ago, I'll use ooo when and only when it deserve the title of "helpful tool".
One comment on this: though I think the rest of it went well, I was disappointed that your answer on the Wikimania panel spoke more about the detail of the difficulties of using OpenOffice for presentations than the importance of supporting free tools.
ok
I heard you had a different answer, but did not have the opportunity to voice it at that time. Can you offer us your answer ?
For the record and those not present, the comment made to the board was "could board members in the future, make any efforts to use FLOSS software (such as open office, rather than powerpoint), and to use free operating system (my presentation was done on the computer available in the conference room, which run under windows).
In my view, WMF has pledged for the creation of free educational content. It has not pledged to support open and free software. Though many of us support free software, it is not our mission. I do not consider MY job is to necessarily support free software, though I am glad doing it when suitable. As such, I am not going to shot me in the foot in making big public statements to explain the absolute necessity of using Linux and ooo, when I am not doing it myself. I *know* some will be disappointed by that, but this is a fact. I am happy that you have a different view and consider you should support free software, but as long as it is not written as part of WMF mission to do so, speaking of the importance of supporting free tools, should stay a personal pledge .
My presentation was done in OpenOffice; I saved in it .ppt format to run on the Windows machine doing presentations and it worked perfectly there, not because I'm good at using it or because I did anything special, but because it just worked without me having to think about it.
I tried "not to think about it", but it did not magically worked :-( Practically, it costed me 30 mn of hotline and a lot of stress.
Importing and exporting from each other, especially from older versions, are a sticky point in both pieces of software (though most of the time it works fine), but that's not much of a failure of the free tool on its own.
Absolutely correct.
I'm not going to argue that all free tools are as good as their proprietary counterparts (some are worse, some are better), but I think Impress and PowerPoint are equally as bad, and in the same ways. :-)
-Kat
Hmmmm
When I joined Wikipedia in 2002, I did not have the slightest idea what a free license was. I never thought about it, never cared before. And for a full year, I had no idea. It only came afterwards. Today, I am indeed still using OS X (rather than Linux), and still using Powerpoint (rather than ooo), but if I had not run into Wikipedia, I would still have no idea what a free license is. If we were doing a poll in the wikimedia community, I would be very curious to know who *really* know what a free license is, and how many came to the free world thanks to Wikipedia.
ant
On 8/9/07, Florence Devouard Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
In my view, WMF has pledged for the creation of free educational content. It has not pledged to support open and free software.
When people can no longer participate in something we do, or when they can no longer access information we provide, because they are running free software, we have failed in our mission. Our mission is not about software, that's true, but it is about spreading knowledge without boundaries, and proprietary tools & formats can and do represent such boundaries.
People running free software can usually import XLS, DOC & PPT files, but it's clear that open document standards are critical for the long term preservation of & access to knowledge, which includes information we carry to the outside. Whether you end up running any specific open source solution or not, let's try to at least archive all presentations in an open format.
It was a very nice presentation, BTW. :-)
Erik Moeller wrote:
On 8/9/07, Florence Devouard Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
In my view, WMF has pledged for the creation of free educational content. It has not pledged to support open and free software.
When people can no longer participate in something we do, or when they can no longer access information we provide, because they are running free software, we have failed in our mission. Our mission is not about software, that's true, but it is about spreading knowledge without boundaries, and proprietary tools & formats can and do represent such boundaries.
The problem is more the other way around. People have difficulty with free software when they are trying to view it by using propritary software. They want something that works reliably without needing to investigate the guts of the software. A simple fix or work-around may come easily to a computer geek, but it could take a free content editor a whole day just to understand a problem that can ultimately be fixed by changing a single letter.
People running free software can usually import XLS, DOC & PPT files, but it's clear that open document standards are critical for the long term preservation of & access to knowledge, which includes information we carry to the outside. Whether you end up running any specific open source solution or not, let's try to at least archive all presentations in an open format.
Nothing wrong with archiving. After that it's important that it be usable by all. Files that are not accessible for technical reasons are not really free.
Florence did relate the problem of not having PowerPoint software work when she needs to give a speech far away from home. At home the solution may be as simple as reaching back to a familiar place on the bookshelf, but that option is not available on the road.
It was a very nice presentation, BTW. :-)
Absolutely!
Ec
Ray Saintonge wrote:
Erik Moeller wrote:
On 8/9/07, Florence Devouard Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
In my view, WMF has pledged for the creation of free educational content. It has not pledged to support open and free software.
When people can no longer participate in something we do, or when they can no longer access information we provide, because they are running free software, we have failed in our mission. Our mission is not about software, that's true, but it is about spreading knowledge without boundaries, and proprietary tools & formats can and do represent such boundaries.
The problem is more the other way around. People have difficulty with free software when they are trying to view it by using propritary software. They want something that works reliably without needing to investigate the guts of the software. A simple fix or work-around may come easily to a computer geek, but it could take a free content editor a whole day just to understand a problem that can ultimately be fixed by changing a single letter.
Kat put it very clearly. The issue is "importing" and "exporting", ie, communication between the two different types of software. Both are good software. However, OpenOffice opens ooo and powerpoint documents. However, Powerpoint does not open ooo files.
People running free software can usually import XLS, DOC & PPT files, but it's clear that open document standards are critical for the long term preservation of & access to knowledge, which includes information we carry to the outside. Whether you end up running any specific open source solution or not, let's try to at least archive all presentations in an open format.
Nothing wrong with archiving. After that it's important that it be usable by all. Files that are not accessible for technical reasons are not really free.
Florence did relate the problem of not having PowerPoint software work when she needs to give a speech far away from home. At home the solution may be as simple as reaching back to a familiar place on the bookshelf, but that option is not available on the road.
My problem is that when I go to give a presentation, hmmm, (example), to the Great Library of Alexandria, and they say "we only have powerpoint on our computers, and our organization is such that we can not install new software, only techs are authorized to do that"... what do I do ?
It was a very nice presentation, BTW. :-)
Absolutely!
Ec
thanks :-)
By the way, I uploaded the file http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:DevouardTaipei2007.pdf
However, I could not add it to the list of proceedings, because no page was opened for my talk and the schedule page is protected. Can someone had a proceeding page for me so I can link the presentation somewhere ?
THanks
ant
Hi,
Florence Devouard wrote:
She, not he, please.
I see NO reason why it should not be published. Consider it a ccbysa generally.
I thought I could upload it this evening, but... the slides are ppt (as Wikimania participants know...); I just tried to save them in odt, but it changes the color of the text in various places. I tried to change the colors to black again and Open Office froze. So just as I explained a few days ago, I'll use ooo when and only when it deserve the title of "helpful tool". Meanwhile, Shun, I appreciate your support and will send you the ppt slides. More interesting perhaps will be the record. But I have no idea if recording really worked at Wikimania and if or when it will be stored on our site.
Thank you. It's a best gift for Japanese.
ant
Casey Brown wrote:
They should be, but isn't (s)he talking about the opening speech? If so, I don't think *that* will be published, but of course, I could be and have been wrong.
On 8/8/07, Christophe Henner christophe.henner@gmail.com wrote:
As far as I know, all the slides of all the presentations will be published.
Please easy guys, we are just coming back from Taipei, after a journey of nearly 24 hours.
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I do not think it is published anywhere, you are going to have to e-mail
her
for a copy, but keep in mind that she may not have it typed up or might
just
not share! :-P
On 8/8/07, Shun Fukuzawa shfukuzawa@jcom.home.ne.jp wrote:
Hi all,
I'm Shun, Japanese wikipedian.
I attended Wikimania and saw Florence's session. I think that was a great pretentation.
Please give me the presentation file. I intend to show it to the Japanese people that didn't come to wikimania with my impression.
Thanks.
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