Sorry, but... really!? France is a language now? Pft... ~~~~, Salvidrim

Le 31/05/2013 04:10, James Salsman a écrit : I'm afraid my message was not clear enought, I meant *Wikikids-type* projects should be launched in other language than existing active and well developed Vikidia in French and Wikikids.nl in Dutch ! I mean it should be a new set of project, not other "simple language" versions of Wikipedia. The new Wikikids to launch in other languages would be in particular in German *and in english*, thus this page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids/Relation_to_Simple_English_Wikipedia Here is an extract of http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids/For_children_or_by_children_%3F ************************************************************************** Who should Wikikids be written for? Wikikids is a free encyclopedia designed for 8-13 yeas old children. However, this description is of use to define what it is geared toward, but it doesn't exclude its usefulness to others. The Simple English Wikipedia ultimately has a similar purpose, yet it is designed primarily to speak to /language level/ rather than its audience's /age range/. /*See : Wikikids/Relation to Simple English Wikipedia <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids/Relation_to_Simple_English_Wikipedia>*/ We may imagine a documentary resource that, beyond considerations of age range, would address a comprehensibility level of any particular subject. Indeed, at any age we can be considered a beginner in a particular field of knowledge, and would need simple documents to take our first steps. However, as we become more familiar with the basic ideas in a field, we become able – whatever our age – able to explore and better comprehend ever more complex documentation. A child that is impassioned by archaeology would certainly take advantage of Wikipedia articles or even subsequently specialized articles if they do not contain too much technical jargon. The crucial quality for a documentary resource for children is to take them seriously and to take into account their learning level without stooping to infantilization. We may keep as a criterion that the quality of a children-directed content should be such that it could, without embarrassment, be offered to someone in a learning situation on that subject, whatever his age, be he a non-native speaker, a high school student in another language or just someone needing, in a particular field, to start from scratch. We may even be cautious in not making the reader feel inferior, be they adult or teenager, by making them feel that the content was not designed for him. The fact that a resource devoted to 8-13 years old children could be used for adult learning can constitute a guaranty against risks of infantilization. The achievement would be that any person, be he 8 or 88, when starting from scratch on a subject, would know that he could find what he needs on such a wiki. ************************************************************************** Le 30/05/2013 21:18, Mathias Damour a écrit : -- Mathias Damour 49 rue Carnot F-74000 Annecy 00 33 (0)4 57 09 10 56 00 33 (0)6 27 13 65 51 mathias.damour(a)laposte.net http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays