A desysopping procedure against me has started on nl:
A brilliant timing btw my sysopstatus will be taken away on my birthday. As I have said before. If I get desysopped something breaks in me. As I have always done a lot for the community. It is ironic that on nl: the trolls can stay, as they do not even get blocked! And the one who is constantly trying to keep things going looses his modstatus.
I have tried after a year of discussing to finally get a blockpolicy going on nl: that allows blocks for more than 24 hours. 7 proposals have been made by 7 users. But no what do they want on nl: they want to discuss things further. Meanwhile trolls feast on nl: and multiple users have left already. Also an arbcom has been discussed for over a year. And everytime someone has a proposal they discuss further and further and further. NL: has become a discussionforum in which proposals are discussed, but never ever implemented. I tried to further it by warning people on their userpages that wikipedia is not a discussionforum. They responded with a desysoppingprocedure here: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Afzetting_moderators
This is the worst birthday gift after over 2 years of hard work. I defended nl.wikipedia a number of times over the radio as a presscontact. everyone said I had done a good job. I now feel stupid sorry for doing such a good job. This community doesn't deserve people who are willing to work hard.
Waerth/Walter
Hoi, I hope you realise that there is more to this than meets the eye. Waerth has been doing things that were awfull. This list is not nice and I will not bother you with a complete decomfiture. Understand that I like Waerth as a person. I do admire his hard work. The fact is also that I found it necessary to vote.
I have been warned on my user page by Waerth because I dared to suggest that it would be good to take some time and reduce the number of options to vote for in a block policy to something more manageable. Some eight admins were threatened with a desysop procedure for the same reason. It is abuse of power like this that made me decide to vote.
The fact that vandals need to be dealt with does not mean that everything is allowed in this fight. It may be true that much time was wasted, but there is always another day.
I do not mind when you vote for Waerth, but when you do, please do it after having learned the reasons why it came this far in the first place.
Thanks, GerardM
On 1/17/06, Walter van Kalken walter@vankalken.net wrote:
A desysopping procedure against me has started on nl:
A brilliant timing btw my sysopstatus will be taken away on my birthday. As I have said before. If I get desysopped something breaks in me. As I have always done a lot for the community. It is ironic that on nl: the trolls can stay, as they do not even get blocked! And the one who is constantly trying to keep things going looses his modstatus.
I have tried after a year of discussing to finally get a blockpolicy going on nl: that allows blocks for more than 24 hours. 7 proposals have been made by 7 users. But no what do they want on nl: they want to discuss things further. Meanwhile trolls feast on nl: and multiple users have left already. Also an arbcom has been discussed for over a year. And everytime someone has a proposal they discuss further and further and further. NL: has become a discussionforum in which proposals are discussed, but never ever implemented. I tried to further it by warning people on their userpages that wikipedia is not a discussionforum. They responded with a desysoppingprocedure here: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Afzetting_moderators
This is the worst birthday gift after over 2 years of hard work. I defended nl.wikipedia a number of times over the radio as a presscontact. everyone said I had done a good job. I now feel stupid sorry for doing such a good job. This community doesn't deserve people who are willing to work hard.
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This is truly sad. I think we need Jimbo to declare that NL will have an arbcom to get things going. I would recommend that he appoint you as its first member. De-sysop indeed. Things must be very bad on nl if somebody I trust as much as I trust you gets desysoped there.
Maybe you should tell them that I and the board trust you so much that you have read access to the foundation PayPal account and can edit the foundation wiki. You have never abused those rights and are still very much so trusted.
Everybody on every wiki needs to know that rules *only* exist to serve our goal of creating and distributing the best encyclopedia in the world. They should *never* be used as weapons against people you happen to not like for whatever reason and they certainly do *not* exist for their own sake. That is in fact what the ignore all rules policy is all about.
-- mav
--- Walter van Kalken walter@vankalken.net wrote:
A desysopping procedure against me has started on nl:
A brilliant timing btw my sysopstatus will be taken away on my birthday. As I have said before. If I get desysopped something breaks in me. As I have always done a lot for the community. It is ironic that on nl: the trolls can stay, as they do not even get blocked! And the one who is constantly trying to keep things going looses his modstatus.
I have tried after a year of discussing to finally get a blockpolicy going on nl: that allows blocks for more than 24 hours. 7 proposals have been made by 7 users. But no what do they want on nl: they want to discuss things further. Meanwhile trolls feast on nl: and multiple users have left already. Also an arbcom has been discussed for over a year. And everytime someone has a proposal they discuss further and further and further. NL: has become a discussionforum in which proposals are discussed, but never ever implemented. I tried to further it by warning people on their userpages that wikipedia is not a discussionforum. They responded with a desysoppingprocedure here: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Afzetting_moderators
This is the worst birthday gift after over 2 years of hard work. I defended nl.wikipedia a number of times over the radio as a presscontact. everyone said I had done a good job. I now feel stupid sorry for doing such a good job. This community doesn't deserve people who are willing to work hard.
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I did make some mistakes but they were to finally get the process about sensible rules and guidelines on nl: going. They backfired. I requested to be desysopped:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_permissions#User:Waerth
Waerth/Walter
This is truly sad. I think we need Jimbo to declare that NL will have an arbcom to get things going. I would recommend that he appoint you as its first member. De-sysop indeed. Things must be very bad on nl if somebody I trust as much as I trust you gets desysoped there.
Maybe you should tell them that I and the board trust you so much that you have read access to the foundation PayPal account and can edit the foundation wiki. You have never abused those rights and are still very much so trusted.
Everybody on every wiki needs to know that rules *only* exist to serve our goal of creating and distributing the best encyclopedia in the world. They should *never* be used as weapons against people you happen to not like for whatever reason and they certainly do *not* exist for their own sake. That is in fact what the ignore all rules policy is all about.
-- mav
--- Walter van Kalken walter@vankalken.net wrote:
A desysopping procedure against me has started on nl:
A brilliant timing btw my sysopstatus will be taken away on my birthday. As I have said before. If I get desysopped something breaks in me. As I have always done a lot for the community. It is ironic that on nl: the trolls can stay, as they do not even get blocked! And the one who is constantly trying to keep things going looses his modstatus.
I have tried after a year of discussing to finally get a blockpolicy going on nl: that allows blocks for more than 24 hours. 7 proposals have been made by 7 users. But no what do they want on nl: they want to discuss things further. Meanwhile trolls feast on nl: and multiple users have left already. Also an arbcom has been discussed for over a year. And everytime someone has a proposal they discuss further and further and further. NL: has become a discussionforum in which proposals are discussed, but never ever implemented. I tried to further it by warning people on their userpages that wikipedia is not a discussionforum. They responded with a desysoppingprocedure here: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Afzetting_moderators
This is the worst birthday gift after over 2 years of hard work. I defended nl.wikipedia a number of times over the radio as a presscontact. everyone said I had done a good job. I now feel stupid sorry for doing such a good job. This community doesn't deserve people who are willing to work hard.
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