Hi.
I asked about this a few days ago, but I don't think anyone ever responded. Are the grant agreements that the Wikimedia Foundation enters into posted anywhere? If so, where? If not, could someone post them, please?
MZMcBride
I know they are posted in Chapters Wiki - not sure if they are in Internal Wiki. But is just ask some chapter to upload a copy in Commons (I don't have one, so I can't do it) _____ *Béria Lima* http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*
On 14 October 2011 23:18, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Hi.
I asked about this a few days ago, but I don't think anyone ever responded. Are the grant agreements that the Wikimedia Foundation enters into posted anywhere? If so, where? If not, could someone post them, please?
MZMcBride
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Oh sorry, is the opposite.
"*I know they are posted in Chapters Wiki - not sure if they are in Internal Wiki*" should be "I know they are posted in Internal Wiki - not sure if they are in Chapters Wiki" _____ *Béria Lima* http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*
On 14 October 2011 23:51, Béria Lima berialima@gmail.com wrote:
I know they are posted in Chapters Wiki - not sure if they are in Internal Wiki. But is just ask some chapter to upload a copy in Commons (I don't have one, so I can't do it) _____ *Béria Lima* http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*
On 14 October 2011 23:18, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Hi.
I asked about this a few days ago, but I don't think anyone ever responded. Are the grant agreements that the Wikimedia Foundation enters into posted anywhere? If so, where? If not, could someone post them, please?
MZMcBride
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Point of clarification (and this is to help someone else answer, because i don't know)... MZ, are you talking about grants such as Stanton, where the WMF is the recipient, or grants such as to the chapters, where the WMF is the granting partner?
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On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Béria Lima berialima@gmail.com wrote:
Oh sorry, is the opposite.
"*I know they are posted in Chapters Wiki - not sure if they are in Internal Wiki*" should be "I know they are posted in Internal Wiki - not sure if they are in Chapters Wiki" _____ *Béria Lima* http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*
On 14 October 2011 23:51, Béria Lima berialima@gmail.com wrote:
I know they are posted in Chapters Wiki - not sure if they are in
Internal
Wiki. But is just ask some chapter to upload a copy in Commons (I don't
have
one, so I can't do it) _____ *Béria Lima* http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*
On 14 October 2011 23:18, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Hi.
I asked about this a few days ago, but I don't think anyone ever responded. Are the grant agreements that the Wikimedia Foundation enters into
posted
anywhere? If so, where? If not, could someone post them, please?
MZMcBride
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Philippe Beaudette wrote:
Point of clarification (and this is to help someone else answer, because i don't know)... MZ, are you talking about grants such as Stanton, where the WMF is the recipient, or grants such as to the chapters, where the WMF is the granting partner?
I was talking about Stanton-type grants. Sorry for the confusion.
MZMcBride
Oh. I can speak to this, at least a little. The Wikimedia Foundation has a policy of publishing our grant applications when the grantmaking institution is okay with it. We don't do a lot of grant applications, and of the ones we do, I am guesstimating that two-thirds of the grantmakers have said it's fine with them for us to publish, and about a third have asked us not to. Some grantmaking institutions are very happy to publish, because they believe the sector as a whole benefits from transparency about how things work. (IIRC Hewlett is an example of that.)
I do not know where they get published: I'll ask.
But, some of the grant we receive are unsolicited gifts, in which case there is no application, and nothing to publish. I think for example that our recent grant from the Indigo Trust in the UK is an example of that.
I assume, MZ, that you're mostly interested in the Stanton grant, and I don't remember their position on this issue. I do know they're not publicity-seeking, and they don't welcome grant applications that they haven't solicited. So they might be an example of a foundation that doesn't want its agreements publicized: I don't remember.
We can find out :-)
Thanks, Sue On Oct 14, 2011 5:41 PM, "MZMcBride" z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Philippe Beaudette wrote:
Point of clarification (and this is to help someone else answer, because
i
don't know)... MZ, are you talking about grants such as Stanton, where
the
WMF is the recipient, or grants such as to the chapters, where the WMF is the granting partner?
I was talking about Stanton-type grants. Sorry for the confusion.
MZMcBride
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Sue Gardner wrote:
Oh. I can speak to this, at least a little. The Wikimedia Foundation has a policy of publishing our grant applications when the grantmaking institution is okay with it. We don't do a lot of grant applications, and of the ones we do, I am guesstimating that two-thirds of the grantmakers have said it's fine with them for us to publish, and about a third have asked us not to. Some grantmaking institutions are very happy to publish, because they believe the sector as a whole benefits from transparency about how things work. (IIRC Hewlett is an example of that.)
I do not know where they get published: I'll ask.
But, some of the grant we receive are unsolicited gifts, in which case there is no application, and nothing to publish. I think for example that our recent grant from the Indigo Trust in the UK is an example of that.
I assume, MZ, that you're mostly interested in the Stanton grant, and I don't remember their position on this issue. I do know they're not publicity-seeking, and they don't welcome grant applications that they haven't solicited. So they might be an example of a foundation that doesn't want its agreements publicized: I don't remember.
We can find out :-)
That would be great. Thanks. :-)
It's mostly the large grants that I'm interested in, the ones that have the power to shape a significant portion of Wikimedia's short-term future. Personally, the applications (assuming there are any) are completely unimportant to me. I can't imagine they're much more than "we'd like X money to fulfill Y portions of our mission", though perhaps I'm wrong. But the grant agreements ("we'll give you X money over Y months to do Z") are the piece that has me curious.
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. There's no rush on this, but I'd most certainly appreciate it if you could take a look or ask someone to.
(There also doesn't seem to be too much about the grants process on wikimediafoundation.org currently, so I'll look into improving that next week. Even a primer on the difference between grants Wikimedia solicits/receives and the grants Wikimedia administers/doles out would be cool.)
MZMcBride
MZMcBride wrote:
Sue Gardner wrote:
Oh. I can speak to this, at least a little. The Wikimedia Foundation has a policy of publishing our grant applications when the grantmaking institution is okay with it. We don't do a lot of grant applications, and of the ones we do, I am guesstimating that two-thirds of the grantmakers have said it's fine with them for us to publish, and about a third have asked us not to. Some grantmaking institutions are very happy to publish, because they believe the sector as a whole benefits from transparency about how things work. (IIRC Hewlett is an example of that.)
I do not know where they get published: I'll ask.
But, some of the grant we receive are unsolicited gifts, in which case there is no application, and nothing to publish. I think for example that our recent grant from the Indigo Trust in the UK is an example of that.
I assume, MZ, that you're mostly interested in the Stanton grant, and I don't remember their position on this issue. I do know they're not publicity-seeking, and they don't welcome grant applications that they haven't solicited. So they might be an example of a foundation that doesn't want its agreements publicized: I don't remember.
We can find out :-)
That would be great. Thanks. :-)
It's mostly the large grants that I'm interested in, the ones that have the power to shape a significant portion of Wikimedia's short-term future. Personally, the applications (assuming there are any) are completely unimportant to me. I can't imagine they're much more than "we'd like X money to fulfill Y portions of our mission", though perhaps I'm wrong. But the grant agreements ("we'll give you X money over Y months to do Z") are the piece that has me curious.
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. There's no rush on this, but I'd most certainly appreciate it if you could take a look or ask someone to.
Bumping this, so I don't forget. I think having public grant agreements wherever possible is critically important, particularly with large grants that have the potential to drastically (or dramatically) shape the future of Wikimedia, at least short-term.
Is there a particular staff member that I can talk to about this? There are some grant-specific people, aren't there?
MZMcBride
It's Lisa Gruwell, MZ. Last I heard, she has been waiting to hear back from a couple of foundations about recent agreements.
Thanks, Sue
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On 23 October 2011 11:05, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
MZMcBride wrote:
Sue Gardner wrote:
Oh. I can speak to this, at least a little. The Wikimedia Foundation has a policy of publishing our grant applications when the grantmaking institution is okay with it. We don't do a lot of grant applications, and of the ones we do, I am guesstimating that two-thirds of the grantmakers have said it's fine with them for us to publish, and about a third have asked us not to. Some grantmaking institutions are very happy to publish, because they believe the sector as a whole benefits from transparency about how things work. (IIRC Hewlett is an example of that.)
I do not know where they get published: I'll ask.
But, some of the grant we receive are unsolicited gifts, in which case there is no application, and nothing to publish. I think for example that our recent grant from the Indigo Trust in the UK is an example of that.
I assume, MZ, that you're mostly interested in the Stanton grant, and I don't remember their position on this issue. I do know they're not publicity-seeking, and they don't welcome grant applications that they haven't solicited. So they might be an example of a foundation that doesn't want its agreements publicized: I don't remember.
We can find out :-)
That would be great. Thanks. :-)
It's mostly the large grants that I'm interested in, the ones that have the power to shape a significant portion of Wikimedia's short-term future. Personally, the applications (assuming there are any) are completely unimportant to me. I can't imagine they're much more than "we'd like X money to fulfill Y portions of our mission", though perhaps I'm wrong. But the grant agreements ("we'll give you X money over Y months to do Z") are the piece that has me curious.
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. There's no rush on this, but I'd most certainly appreciate it if you could take a look or ask someone to.
Bumping this, so I don't forget. I think having public grant agreements wherever possible is critically important, particularly with large grants that have the potential to drastically (or dramatically) shape the future of Wikimedia, at least short-term.
Is there a particular staff member that I can talk to about this? There are some grant-specific people, aren't there?
MZMcBride
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