Brion Vibber wrote: Well, your are right. So we should find a reliable, independent Webhoster that can handle huge traffic spikes - it will still be cheaper than no donation site or running an extra server array. Or we just wait until there are more Wikimedia data centers around the world so the site can be mirrored in a complex way (btw: can you also mirror donations? ;-) But otrs is only a small website isn't it? Greetings, fun and thanks for bringing Wikipedia back again, Jakob P.S: I know that some people will hit me because of publically discussion this, but hey - it's no hidden secret that wikimediafoundation.org was down and that it's hosted together with Wikipedia!

Brion Vibber schreef: Is it really necessary to provide the normal donation form? Just put on the error-page itself ( PayPal: donation(a)wikipedia.org ) and if that is possible make from the email address a link to the website of PayPal to a page where the can donate to the Wikimedia Foundation. Side note (board/PR remark; I see the donation email address is @wikipedia.org Would it not be better to use @wikimedia.org or @wikimediafoundation.org for that? People give money not to Wikipedia but to the Foundation and also not especaily for Wikipedia. -- Contact: walter AT wikizine DOT org Wikizine.org - news for and about the Wikimedia community

On 4/19/06, Brion Vibber <brion(a)pobox.com> wrote: This response would be more helpful if it gave some hint toward finding the prior discussion. Walter's suggestion seems a good one. I just went to PayPal and told it to send $10 to donation(a)wikipedia.org; it tells me that the money (less their cut) went to a Verified Business Account belonging to "Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.", which has the URL of http://www.wikimedia.org/ and the email address of donations(a)wikipedia.org. That looks like a successful transaction to me. If to the static page we now serve for an error we added a static mention of donation(a)wikipedia.org (or donations@) and a static link to PayPal, it seems likely a good flow of money would open up. So what am I missing (and Walter, and Anthony)? What's in that past discussion -- or where can it be found? Greg

--- Walter Vermeir <walter(a)wikipedia.be> wrote: Yeah, that annoyed me a bit too. But we are stuck with the account name that we already have since changing it would be very non-trivial and give us very little benefit. In the end, this is a fairly minor thing. -- mav __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

On 4/19/06, Brion Vibber <brion(a)pobox.com> wrote: Just hide it in Jimbo's travel expense budget. ;) Seriously though, if you can serve a page which says "The Wikimedia Foundation servers are currently experiencing technical difficulties.", then you can serve a set of pages which provide enough information for people to find out about the organization and lets people make donations. There's no reason a donation page has to be dynamic. Anthony