Hallo,
A big red notice at the top of strategy.wikimedia.org says: "This wiki has been closed per community discussion."
I understand what it means: that that wiki site finished serving its purpose and became read-only. That is fine. However, some pages on it are still useful for reference, for example the famous https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_Trends_Study .
A lot of people who will see that big red message may misunderstand it. Even though it's not Wikipedia, some people may think that "wiki" refers to Wikipedia and think that the community decided to close Wikipedia. A surprising number of people that I met think that the word "wiki" doesn't mean "a site that anybody can edit", but "a Wikipedia *article*", so they may see the Editor Trends study and think that the community decided that it's not relevant any longer. There can be me many more misunderstandings of this kind.
Can anybody please change that notice? * It shouldn't be so big and red. In fact, it can be enough to say that the wiki is read-only when somebody will try to edit it. * It shouldn't say "wiki", but "site". Of course, all people in the world should learn what a "wiki" is, but they haven't yet. * It shouldn't say "closed", but "read-only" or "archived".
Thanks to whoever can perform it.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
Oppose. Those who don't know what's "wiki" shall wikipedia it :) --Base
09.03.2014 10:50, Amir E. Aharoni написав(ла):
Hallo,
A big red notice at the top of strategy.wikimedia.org says: "This wiki has been closed per community discussion."
I understand what it means: that that wiki site finished serving its purpose and became read-only. That is fine. However, some pages on it are still useful for reference, for example the famous https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_Trends_Study .
A lot of people who will see that big red message may misunderstand it. Even though it's not Wikipedia, some people may think that "wiki" refers to Wikipedia and think that the community decided to close Wikipedia. A surprising number of people that I met think that the word "wiki" doesn't mean "a site that anybody can edit", but "a Wikipedia *article*", so they may see the Editor Trends study and think that the community decided that it's not relevant any longer. There can be me many more misunderstandings of this kind.
Can anybody please change that notice?
- It shouldn't be so big and red. In fact, it can be enough to say that the
wiki is read-only when somebody will try to edit it.
- It shouldn't say "wiki", but "site". Of course, all people in the world
should learn what a "wiki" is, but they haven't yet.
- It shouldn't say "closed", but "read-only" or "archived".
Thanks to whoever can perform it.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Well, no. We should stop saying things like that even as a joke. Being friendly and understandable to all people doesn't hurt.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2014-03-09 11:02 GMT+02:00 Bohdan Melnychuk base-w@yandex.ru:
Oppose. Those who don't know what's "wiki" shall wikipedia it :) --Base
09.03.2014 10:50, Amir E. Aharoni написав(ла):
Hallo,
A big red notice at the top of strategy.wikimedia.org says: "This wiki has been closed per community discussion."
I understand what it means: that that wiki site finished serving its purpose and became read-only. That is fine. However, some pages on it are still useful for reference, for example the famous https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_Trends_Study .
A lot of people who will see that big red message may misunderstand it. Even though it's not Wikipedia, some people may think that "wiki" refers to Wikipedia and think that the community decided to close Wikipedia. A surprising number of people that I met think that the word "wiki" doesn't mean "a site that anybody can edit", but "a Wikipedia *article*", so they may see the Editor Trends study and think that the community decided that it's not relevant any longer. There can be me many more misunderstandings of this kind.
Can anybody please change that notice?
- It shouldn't be so big and red. In fact, it can be enough to say that
the wiki is read-only when somebody will try to edit it.
- It shouldn't say "wiki", but "site". Of course, all people in the world
should learn what a "wiki" is, but they haven't yet.
- It shouldn't say "closed", but "read-only" or "archived".
Thanks to whoever can perform it.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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If we say about understandableness *to all people* then closed wiki shall be localised as well. At least interface. Англійська не є моєю рідною мовою і я не зобов'язаний її знати щоб дізнатись куди я потрапив. Але я принаймні знаю її на деякому рівні, чого я не можу сказати про всіх людей, які можуть якимось чином потрапити у ту вікі. If we're not then I don't understand your criteria for choosing ones whose life you like to make easier. --Base
09.03.2014 11:06, Amir E. Aharoni написав(ла):
Well, no. We should stop saying things like that even as a joke. Being friendly and understandable to all people doesn't hurt.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2014-03-09 11:02 GMT+02:00 Bohdan Melnychuk base-w@yandex.ru:
Oppose. Those who don't know what's "wiki" shall wikipedia it :) --Base
09.03.2014 10:50, Amir E. Aharoni написав(ла):
Hallo,
A big red notice at the top of strategy.wikimedia.org says: "This wiki has been closed per community discussion."
I understand what it means: that that wiki site finished serving its purpose and became read-only. That is fine. However, some pages on it are still useful for reference, for example the famous https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_Trends_Study .
A lot of people who will see that big red message may misunderstand it. Even though it's not Wikipedia, some people may think that "wiki" refers to Wikipedia and think that the community decided to close Wikipedia. A surprising number of people that I met think that the word "wiki" doesn't mean "a site that anybody can edit", but "a Wikipedia *article*", so they may see the Editor Trends study and think that the community decided that it's not relevant any longer. There can be me many more misunderstandings of this kind.
Can anybody please change that notice?
- It shouldn't be so big and red. In fact, it can be enough to say that
the wiki is read-only when somebody will try to edit it.
- It shouldn't say "wiki", but "site". Of course, all people in the world
should learn what a "wiki" is, but they haven't yet.
- It shouldn't say "closed", but "read-only" or "archived".
Thanks to whoever can perform it.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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