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jamesmikedupont(a)googlemail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:45 PM,
<WJhonson(a)aol.com> wrote:
In a message dated 3/31/2010 1:30:39 PM Pacific
Daylight Time,
jamesmikedupont(a)googlemail.com writes:
(e) use the Products in a manner that gives you
or any other
person access to mass downloads or bulk feeds of any Content,
including but not limited to numerical latitude or longitude
coordinates, imagery, and visible map data;
---Well if I import all the points from wikipedia, it is
equivalent to such a mass import.>>
Yes we have examples where a legitimate
copyright holder
over-extends their claimed rights. Regardless the USGS provides
these exact same lat/long points. If you're concerned than use
them.
I have imported all the geonames for the areas that I am interested
in. That is not the issue.
The issue is the location of things that are only visible using
high quality sat images from googlemaps and co. We don't have those
positions for many of the locations and they are only available
from non free sources. Because wikipedia does not have a problem
with them being submitted in mass, it makes the total collection in
effect not usable for openstreetmap.
Now once you start to include points from google mapmaker it even
gets more interesting.
The content that is not available freely are things like business
listings, touristic points of interest, locations of interesting
buildings etc. I am sure there are a large number of those points
that are not available from any free source, except to go there
with a gps and record the location itself.
I think the best thing would be for wikipedia to really think hard
about this, and to make a policy that ensures the locations and
maps are also free from copyright issues so that we can use the
information in osm. Given the incredible user base, you might be
able to collect more unique points and have the truly usable. If
wikipedia were to call out to people to do some real mapping work
and not just copying points out of questionable sources, it would
be a great benefit to the total human knowledge.
thanks,
mike
Use of Google Maps website to derive data does not convey
copyrightability. That would be like saying that Adobe has copyright
of a graphic design you created in Photoshop, wouldn't it?
Cary
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