"As far as I am aware, the CC-by-sa comes in many flavours. One for
each country
and all of them are different in their own way. Specific country specific
implementations may exactly allow for things people are not aware off."
True up to version 3.0; but it seems they stopped it for version 4.0 and
started calling it "International License".
Jee
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hoi,
As far as I am aware, the CC-by-sa comes in many flavours. One for each
country and all of them are different in their own way. Specific country
specific implementations may exactly allow for things people are not aware
off. Yes the INTENTION is for them to be the same.
As to why things go wrong? They do.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 7 June 2014 04:51, Jeevan Jose <jkadavoor(a)gmail.com> wrote:
CC does NOT say anything that people can
understand clearly. That is the
sole problem here.
1. They said "If You Share the Licensed Material (including in modified
form), You must: retain the following if it is supplied by the Licensor
with the Licensed Material: a URI or hyperlink to the Licensed Material
to
the extent reasonably practicable." must !=
to the extent reasonably
practicable
2. "You may satisfy the conditions in Section 3(a)(1)
<https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/legalcode#s3a1> in any
reasonable manner based on the medium, means, and context in which You
Share the Licensed Material." What is the meaning of it? It means nothing
to anyone have some commonsense.
3. "As with most copyright questions, it will depend on applicable law."
Then why our admins punishing a user who try to follow the judgement by
the
court of his country?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Co…
Regards,
Jee
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hoi,
> The CC does NOT say that the license of a low resolution image allows
for
> the use of a high resolution image. This is
because it depends on the
law
> of the land. Some countries consider them to
be the same where other do
> not.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
>
> On 5 June 2014 07:59, Jeevan Jose <jkadavoor(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In many recent discussions in Wikimedia Commons, I noticed that many
of
our
media contributors are not well aware of the
terms of licenses they
grant.
> Main confusions are in three areas:
> 1. Attribution: Many people think we can demand attribution near the
work
> > used in off wiki cases. But according to CC, a mere link/hyper link
to
the
> source is enough for attribution as we practiced in WMF projects. I
don't
know
whether all courts agree with it; but our contributors should be
aware
> of it. Anyway there is no separate agreement between the contributors
and
> Wikimedia; people can't expect more for
off wiki uses. Moreover, many
> uploads are by third parties; so no chances for such special
agreements.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Co…
> )
> 2. File resolution: Recently CC clarified that the license is
applicable
> > for the copyright eligible works; so it may applicable for high
quality
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Copyright#Could_som…
)
3. Personality/privacy rights in case of self portraits: Here also CC
advised that such rights may affected. (
http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#How_are_publicity.2C_privacy.2C_and_per…
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Photographs_of_identifiable…
> > )
> >
> > In most cases, people reveal such things very late, try to defend,
and
> > ended up in edit wars and even a block.
So do we have a
responsibility
to
> > educate the contributors than misusing their ignorance in such cases?
> > Regards,
> > Jee
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