Dear Klaus, You refer to http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Gnom/Wikispecies, which refers to Wikispecies:Village pump/Archive 24092005, a page which has been deleted. The discussion on http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:L%C3%B6schkandidaten/11._September_2… to a page on the german wiki, not to wikispecies. So I doubt you have a point with 4 old references. From your references I also dont see a permanent boycot of wikispecis by the german community, though Personally i would not shed a tear when wikispecies is shredded, its information is usually outdated - if present. And then I am not speaking about the support of multiple taxonomies. Commons does (see for example http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cyclamen). Imho wikispecies has a number of problems: * It is text based, not db-structure based. * Allthough often references are given at the bottom of a page, it is not clear what is coming from what. See for example http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Aspidytidae. * Some species even have no reference at all, for example http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ateles_paniscus * Some referenced sources are not scientific publications. * The target audience is not clear: scientific researcher? student? interested laymen? * Allthough I feel high respect for the people working at species, information is soon outdated in this field. I feel sincere doubts about ever being able to maintain a project like this by a limited number of volunteers without substantial support from the scientific community. For these reasons I would support a closure vote at meta. kind regards, teun spaans On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Klaus Graf <klausgraf(a)googlemail.com>wrote;wrote: