Hi all,
Scholarship applications for Wikimania 2013 in Hong Kong are being accept. The application window is one month (through 22 February).
Wikimania 2013 scholarship is an award given to an individual to enable them to attend Wikimania in Hong Kong from 7-11 August, 2013.
Both types of scholarships will be available this year. Partial scholarships will cover travel expenses to Wikimania, capped at 50% of the estimated air fare from your nearest international airport according to [[wm2013:Getting to Hong Kong]]. Full scholarships will cover round-trip travel, dorms accommodations as arranged by the Wikimania Team, and registration for Wikimania 2013.
Applicants will be rated on the following four dimensions: 1. Activity within Wikimedia (on-wiki and off-wiki) - 50% 2. Activity outside of Wikimedia and other free knowledge/software projects - 15% 3. Interest in Wikimania and the Wikimedia movement - 25% 4. Fluency of English language - 10%
To learn more about Wikimania 2013 scholarships, please visit https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships To apply for a scholarship, you can fill out the application form here: https://scholarship.wikimedia.hk
If you have any question, email us at wikimania-shcolarship@wikimedia.org .
Good luck!
Simon Shek Community coordinator - Wikimania 2013 / Wikimedia Hong Kong wikimedia.hk
Glad to see the process is coming along :-)
Could you please clarify the purpose of one of the mandatory questions in the form:
" Hong Kong is an international gourmet paradise. Please use less than 200 words to describe your favourite dish of food."
Is this an English-language test? Or, is this to help determine the best catering options? Or something else?
-Liam
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On 22 January 2013 05:03, Simon Shek simon.shek@wikimedia.hk wrote:
Hi all,
Scholarship applications for Wikimania 2013 in Hong Kong are being accept. The application window is one month (through 22 February).
Wikimania 2013 scholarship is an award given to an individual to enable them to attend Wikimania in Hong Kong from 7-11 August, 2013.
Both types of scholarships will be available this year. Partial scholarships will cover travel expenses to Wikimania, capped at 50% of the estimated air fare from your nearest international airport according to [[wm2013:Getting to Hong Kong]]. Full scholarships will cover round-trip travel, dorms accommodations as arranged by the Wikimania Team, and registration for Wikimania 2013.
Applicants will be rated on the following four dimensions:
- Activity within Wikimedia (on-wiki and off-wiki) - 50%
- Activity outside of Wikimedia and other free knowledge/software projects
- 15%
- Interest in Wikimania and the Wikimedia movement - 25%
- Fluency of English language - 10%
To learn more about Wikimania 2013 scholarships, please visit https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships To apply for a scholarship, you can fill out the application form here: https://scholarship.wikimedia.hk
If you have any question, email us at wikimania-shcolarship@wikimedia.org.
Good luck!
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From: liamwyatt@gmail.com Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:47:06 +0000 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2013 scholarship now accepting application
" Hong Kong is an international gourmet paradise. Please use less than 200 words to describe your favourite dish of food."
Is this an English-language test? Or, is this to help determine the best catering options? Or something else?
+1 to what Liam asked. I honestly don't understand the premise of that question in the scholarship application form. Abbas.
On Monday, 18 February 2013, Abbas Mahmood wrote:
From: liamwyatt@gmail.com javascript:; Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:47:06 +0000 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2013 scholarship now accepting
application
" Hong Kong is an international gourmet paradise. Please use less than
200
words to describe your favourite dish of food."
Is this an English-language test? Or, is this to help determine the best catering options? Or something else?
+1 to what Liam asked. I honestly don't understand the premise of that question in the scholarship application form. Abbas.
Upon further questioning I was informed that:
"This question is referring to the selection criteria #4 "Fluency of English language". "
So... Apparently this is where you are expected to write something that convinces people you have a firm grasp of English. Unfortunately, this is a written test, not an oral test - because an oral test might be quite useful. I know many people from my own country and other English-native-speaking countries that are officially literate but when asked to speak in a formal setting (or even semi-formal situation like Wikimania) are incapable of clear enunciation, diction, grammar, intonation, accent and speed. Certainly, they can be understood by *other* native English speakers but they have no concept of how difficult it is for non-native speakers to understand them.
Perhaps a mandatory class for native speakers before the conference entitled: "Speak English, like, more good 'n stuff for all y'all. Mmm'kay?"
oh... so replying with "I will bring my own food" wasn't such a good idea after all? ;-)
2013/2/18 Liam Wyatt liamwyatt@gmail.com
On Monday, 18 February 2013, Abbas Mahmood wrote:
From: liamwyatt@gmail.com javascript:; Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:47:06 +0000 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2013 scholarship now accepting
application
" Hong Kong is an international gourmet paradise. Please use less than
200
words to describe your favourite dish of food."
Is this an English-language test? Or, is this to help determine the
best
catering options? Or something else?
+1 to what Liam asked. I honestly don't understand the premise of that question in the scholarship application form. Abbas.
Upon further questioning I was informed that:
"This question is referring to the selection criteria #4 "Fluency of English language". "
So... Apparently this is where you are expected to write something that convinces people you have a firm grasp of English. Unfortunately, this is a written test, not an oral test - because an oral test might be quite useful. I know many people from my own country and other English-native-speaking countries that are officially literate but when asked to speak in a formal setting (or even semi-formal situation like Wikimania) are incapable of clear enunciation, diction, grammar, intonation, accent and speed. Certainly, they can be understood by *other* native English speakers but they have no concept of how difficult it is for non-native speakers to understand them.
Perhaps a mandatory class for native speakers before the conference entitled: "Speak English, like, more good 'n stuff for all y'all. Mmm'kay?"
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:52:13 +0100, Lodewijk wrote:
oh... so replying with "I will bring my own food" wasn't such a good idea after all? ;-)
I guess if you have written somewhere that you are Dutch this one becomes redundant. Everybody knows that Dutch bring their own food everywhere.
Cheers Yaroslav
Yes, I think that writing "I will bring Stroopwafels" gives you an automatic extra 10points in the scholarship assessment ;-)
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On 18 February 2013 21:05, Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ru wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:52:13 +0100, Lodewijk wrote:
oh... so replying with "I will bring my own food" wasn't such a good idea after all? ;-)
I guess if you have written somewhere that you are Dutch this one becomes redundant. Everybody knows that Dutch bring their own food everywhere.
Cheers Yaroslav
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Le lundi 18 février 2013 à 21:09 +1100, Liam Wyatt a écrit :
Yes, I think that writing "I will bring Stroopwafels" gives you an automatic extra 10points in the scholarship assessment ;-)
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Goddamn[1], why do you tell that only now!
[1] Of course you should have read "le Mariage de Figaro" to understand this subtle reference : {{fr}} http://monsu.desiderio.free.fr/bibliotheque/goddam.html
sooo weird...
Just some observations, my written English is bad, it is something I have to improve, however, my understanding, both read when listening are close to a native, and my oral production is excellent (:P). And honestly, I will not really use my writing ability in Wikimania or Hong Kong, but my English was evaluated for it.
But I think the message should be "have a level of English sufficient to follow the lectures, discussions and conversations"
And also I did not find that a good test for English, there's a maximum limit, but there is no minimum limit. I could say: "I have a very restricted diet because I am Jewish and vegan, so my diet is restricted to that."
I could say, or, "I like almost everything, but I'm lactose intolerant, so I can do much poop if I eat things with milk." Until that can be interpreted only as something to check if I have dietary restrictions, as in previous questionnaires.
And one of the advantages of being Brazilian, is that many of us find it easy to understand other Latinos, the reverse is not true, I would not find it strange to see some lectures in Interlingua, or even, Italian or Spanish.
But as the Wikimania is itinerant, lectures in the local language could be very interesting, and even a form of local people interact more, I know that English is present among the HK natives, but I do not see why not have a lectures in Cantonese to appreciate local culture...
On 19 February 2013 01:09, Mathieu Stumpf psychoslave@culture-libre.orgwrote:
Le lundi 18 février 2013 à 21:09 +1100, Liam Wyatt a écrit :
Yes, I think that writing "I will bring Stroopwafels" gives you an automatic extra 10points in the scholarship assessment ;-)
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Goddamn[1], why do you tell that only now!
[1] Of course you should have read "le Mariage de Figaro" to understand this subtle reference : {{fr}} http://monsu.desiderio.free.fr/bibliotheque/goddam.html
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Mozart, being Austrian, was more discreet?
On 19 February 2013 07:27, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton < rodrigo.argenton@gmail.com> wrote:
sooo weird...
Just some observations, my written English is bad, it is something I have to improve, however, my understanding, both read when listening are close to a native, and my oral production is excellent (:P). And honestly, I will not really use my writing ability in Wikimania or Hong Kong, but my English was evaluated for it.
But I think the message should be "have a level of English sufficient to follow the lectures, discussions and conversations"
And also I did not find that a good test for English, there's a maximum limit, but there is no minimum limit. I could say: "I have a very restricted diet because I am Jewish and vegan, so my diet is restricted to that."
I could say, or, "I like almost everything, but I'm lactose intolerant, so I can do much poop if I eat things with milk." Until that can be interpreted only as something to check if I have dietary restrictions, as in previous questionnaires.
And one of the advantages of being Brazilian, is that many of us find it easy to understand other Latinos, the reverse is not true, I would not find it strange to see some lectures in Interlingua, or even, Italian or Spanish.
But as the Wikimania is itinerant, lectures in the local language could be very interesting, and even a form of local people interact more, I know that English is present among the HK natives, but I do not see why not have a lectures in Cantonese to appreciate local culture...
On 19 February 2013 01:09, Mathieu Stumpf <psychoslave@culture-libre.org
wrote:
Le lundi 18 février 2013 à 21:09 +1100, Liam Wyatt a écrit :
Yes, I think that writing "I will bring Stroopwafels" gives you an automatic extra 10points in the scholarship assessment ;-)
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Goddamn[1], why do you tell that only now!
[1] Of course you should have read "le Mariage de Figaro" to understand this subtle reference : {{fr}} http://monsu.desiderio.free.fr/bibliotheque/goddam.html
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On 19/02/2013 07:27, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton wrote:
But as the Wikimania is itinerant, lectures in the local language could be very interesting, and even a form of local people interact more, I know that English is present among the HK natives, but I do not see why not have a lectures in Cantonese to appreciate local culture...
"There will be the option for submission authors to hold their session in either Chinese (Mandarin or Cantonese) or English. We plan to set up a separate Chinese-language track if there is enough demand for such sessions." - https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schedule
No, because you haven't described what you're bringing :)
On the other hand, a detailed, grammatically correct description of stroopwafels will almost certainly gain full marks for the English ability criterion. (And perhaps a bonus for "interest in Wikimania" if you make a good case)
On 18 February 2013 09:52, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
oh... so replying with "I will bring my own food" wasn't such a good idea after all? ;-)
2013/2/18 Liam Wyatt liamwyatt@gmail.com
On Monday, 18 February 2013, Abbas Mahmood wrote:
From: liamwyatt@gmail.com javascript:; Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:47:06 +0000 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2013 scholarship now accepting
application
" Hong Kong is an international gourmet paradise. Please use less
than
200
words to describe your favourite dish of food."
Is this an English-language test? Or, is this to help determine the
best
catering options? Or something else?
+1 to what Liam asked. I honestly don't understand the premise of that question in the scholarship application form. Abbas.
Upon further questioning I was informed that:
"This question is referring to the selection criteria #4 "Fluency of English language". "
So... Apparently this is where you are expected to write something that convinces people you have a firm grasp of English. Unfortunately, this
is a
written test, not an oral test - because an oral test might be quite useful. I know many people from my own country and other English-native-speaking countries that are officially literate but when asked to speak in a formal setting (or even semi-formal situation like Wikimania) are incapable of clear enunciation, diction, grammar, intonation, accent and speed. Certainly, they can be understood by
*other*
native English speakers but they have no concept of how difficult it is
for
non-native speakers to understand them.
Perhaps a mandatory class for native speakers before the conference entitled: "Speak English, like, more good 'n stuff for all y'all. Mmm'kay?"
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On 18 February 2013 13:15, Deryck Chan deryckchan@wikimedia.hk wrote:
No, because you haven't described what you're bringing :)
On the other hand, a detailed, grammatically correct description of stroopwafels will almost certainly gain full marks for the English ability criterion. (And perhaps a bonus for "interest in Wikimania" if you make a good case)
So, a new challenge: try and predict the food preferences and prejudices of every member of the Scholarship Committee by Friday. ;-)
Beware: You'll get lost in Indian cuisinehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_cuisine. ;)
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.ukwrote:
On 18 February 2013 13:15, Deryck Chan deryckchan@wikimedia.hk wrote:
No, because you haven't described what you're bringing :)
On the other hand, a detailed, grammatically correct description of stroopwafels will almost certainly gain full marks for the English
ability
criterion. (And perhaps a bonus for "interest in Wikimania" if you make a good case)
So, a new challenge: try and predict the food preferences and prejudices of every member of the Scholarship Committee by Friday. ;-)
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As a true Dutch, I should bring potatoes, peanut butter and hagelslag.
Lodewijk
2013/2/18 Deryck Chan deryckchan@wikimedia.hk
No, because you haven't described what you're bringing :)
On the other hand, a detailed, grammatically correct description of stroopwafels will almost certainly gain full marks for the English ability criterion. (And perhaps a bonus for "interest in Wikimania" if you make a good case)
On 18 February 2013 09:52, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
oh... so replying with "I will bring my own food" wasn't such a good idea after all? ;-)
2013/2/18 Liam Wyatt liamwyatt@gmail.com
On Monday, 18 February 2013, Abbas Mahmood wrote:
From: liamwyatt@gmail.com javascript:; Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:47:06 +0000 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2013 scholarship now accepting
application
" Hong Kong is an international gourmet paradise. Please use less
than
200
words to describe your favourite dish of food."
Is this an English-language test? Or, is this to help determine the
best
catering options? Or something else?
+1 to what Liam asked. I honestly don't understand the premise of
that
question in the scholarship application form. Abbas.
Upon further questioning I was informed that:
"This question is referring to the selection criteria #4 "Fluency of English language". "
So... Apparently this is where you are expected to write something that convinces people you have a firm grasp of English. Unfortunately, this
is a
written test, not an oral test - because an oral test might be quite useful. I know many people from my own country and other English-native-speaking countries that are officially literate but when asked to speak in a formal setting (or even semi-formal situation like Wikimania) are incapable of clear enunciation, diction, grammar, intonation, accent and speed. Certainly, they can be understood by
*other*
native English speakers but they have no concept of how difficult it is
for
non-native speakers to understand them.
Perhaps a mandatory class for native speakers before the conference entitled: "Speak English, like, more good 'n stuff for all y'all. Mmm'kay?"
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On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.orgwrote:
As a true Dutch, I should bring potatoes, peanut butter and hagelslag.
Sorry, stroopwafels is the only dutch currency we recognize! (pref. with hagelslag)
-Theo
As a true Dutch, I shouldn't even consider to share... it is only to get through the days and survive without having to touch local cuisine... (French and Germans will probably be able to confirm this) :P
Lodewijk
2013/2/18 Theo10011 de10011@gmail.com
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
wrote:
As a true Dutch, I should bring potatoes, peanut butter and hagelslag.
Sorry, stroopwafels is the only dutch currency we recognize! (pref. with hagelslag)
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On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.orgwrote:
As a true Dutch, I shouldn't even consider to share... it is only to get through the days and survive without having to touch local cuisine... (French and Germans will probably be able to confirm this) :P
Now, that's just being mean!
If I had my way I would limit entrance for lodewijk from any future events until he deposits 10 stroopwafels as entrance fees. HK team should set their own lodewikj stroopwafel rates (LSR) for all dutch attendees, and blame him for hoarding.
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On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Theo10011 de10011@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
wrote:
As a true Dutch, I shouldn't even consider to share... it is only to get through the days and survive without having to touch local cuisine... (French and Germans will probably be able to confirm this) :P
Now, that's just being mean!
If I had my way I would limit entrance for lodewijk from any future events until he deposits 10 stroopwafels as entrance fees. HK team should set their own lodewikj stroopwafel rates (LSR) for all dutch attendees, and blame him for hoarding.
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Le lundi 18 février 2013 à 09:16 +0000, Liam Wyatt a écrit :
So... Apparently this is where you are expected to write something that convinces people you have a firm grasp of English. Unfortunately, this is a written test, not an oral test - because an oral test might be quite useful. I know many people from my own country and other English-native-speaking countries that are officially literate but when asked to speak in a formal setting (or even semi-formal situation like Wikimania) are incapable of clear enunciation, diction, grammar, intonation, accent and speed. Certainly, they can be understood by *other* native English speakers but they have no concept of how difficult it is for non-native speakers to understand them.
Perhaps a mandatory class for native speakers before the conference entitled: "Speak English, like, more good 'n stuff for all y'all. Mmm'kay?"
And why not propose an "introduction to esperanto[1] and why it would be by far a beter solution than using english in all international conferences" ?
Seriously, there's so much time and energy spended to learn English (but any native langage would give you problem, I suppose) as a second/third language around the world for such a poor result that even someone who have no problem to write an academic text can't be understood by other non-natives when he speaks oraly.
This would really be an interesting topic in fact. Clearly the English language is strickly pushed by/for economical reasons, not because it's an efficient communication tool like it's suggested in an answer by geni[2] to "New proposal for a wiki Project!" to preserve minority languages.
So reasons why we use English on this list is obvious for now, but promoting a constructed international auxiliary language and aiming (as a long term project) to make it the default language for Wikimedia mailing lists and international meetings, to me it sounds like it would fit with the “imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge” goal.
Now I hope no one will read this message as a diatrib against English, I think every language have is genius[3] and I don't believe there are better or perfect language. But I do believe that for specific goals some languages may be more or less fitted.
So please, really don't take this message as an attack against anything or anyone, I love you all! I just hope we may better understand each other through a communication mean more fitted to our community diversity. :)
[1] Or any language as efficient for international communication the community would prefer (and you know it can't be a native one). [2] To be fair, here is the relevant quotation :
As language minorities mostly live in rural areas they are perfectly adapted to their environment and in their linguistic world/lexicon
there are more concepts and ideas than people from the cities have.
English can deal with concepts ranging from the Australian outback to the housing projects of Detroit to CERN. Minority languages can only be compared logarithmically (assuming they have the concept of logarithms).
[3] As in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius_%28literature%29 . And by the way, to my mind this sounds like an important point in favor of defending language diversity, in the same time as you promote international communication through a constructed languag.
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