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Jay Walsh

7 Mar 2011 7 Mar '11

11:27 p.m.

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Hello, Yes, the rumors are true! Today I am pleased to announce that after more than a year away, Brion Vibber will be returning as a full-time employee of Wikimedia Foundation on March 31, 2011. The public posting is available http://blog.wikimedia.org/blog/2011/03/07/brion-vibber-rejoins-wikimedia-fo…. I'm really excited to be announcing this hire, especially at this time. I've been looking for a Lead Architect for the next generation MediaWiki platform, and Brion is of course the ultimate expert in MediaWiki internals. He's also deeply committed to the work we are doing to keep MediaWiki relevant for the next 10 years. I completely enjoy working with Brion, and I'm totally looking forward to having him back on the team full time (he has always helped out on a volunteer basis). Anyway, I wanted to give you all a heads up before the public announcement. Please join me in welcoming him back! Danese Cooper CTO, Wikimedia Foundation

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Thomas Dalton

7 Mar 7 Mar

11:33 p.m.

This really is fantastic news - welcome back Brion! On 7 March 2011 23:27, Jay Walsh <jwalsh(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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church.of.emacs.ml

8 Mar 8 Mar

12:23 a.m.

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Wow, great news!

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> Lead Architect for the next generation MediaWiki platform

I'd really like to hear more about that. Did I miss something or is this a new project? :-) --Tobias

Liam Wyatt

2:58 a.m.

On 8 March 2011 00:23, church.of.emacs.ml <church.of.emacs.ml(a)googlemail.com

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Wow, great news!

> Lead Architect for the next generation MediaWiki platform

I'd really like to hear more about that. Did I miss something or is this a new project? :-) --Tobias

I'm quite interested in what that concept entails myself! Danese talkes about "mediawiki.next" in the announcement blogpost, and Brion also goes into a bit of detail about the new parser plans in his own blog: http://leuksman.com/log/2011/03/07/hotel-mediawiki-you-can-check-out-but-yo… the "next generation mediawiki platform" have any relationship to the concept of the “Strategic Product Department” that was mentioned in passing in the recent monthly engineering report (under "review system" http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2011/03/wikimedia-engineering-february-report… -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love & metadata

Keegan Peterzell

6:05 a.m.

A pleasure to have him back. -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan

Florence Devouard

9 Mar 9 Mar

9:48 a.m.

On 3/8/11 7:05 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote:

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A pleasure to have him back.

+1 Anthere

Nikola Smolenski

11:31 a.m.

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On 03/09/2011 10:48 AM, Florence Devouard wrote:

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On 3/8/11 7:05 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote:

A pleasure to have him back.

+PHP_INT_MAX :)

George Herbert

8 Mar 8 Mar

9:33 p.m.

On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Liam Wyatt <liamwyatt(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 8 March 2011 00:23, church.of.emacs.ml <church.of.emacs.ml(a)googlemail.com wrote:

> Lead Architect for the next generation MediaWiki platform

I'd really like to hear more about that. Did I miss something or is this a new project? :-)

The general concept of a NG has been under discussion on the WMF / Mediawiki technical lists for some years. The general approach that Brion listed has been discussed repeatedly for some years, without having enough key support / inertia to get actually going - establish a sane and properly specified subset of the current document structure, especially around the use of templates; use automatic tools to identify in-use pages and templates that don't meet that subset, for people to go to work on fixing by hand; then start rebuilding tools to take advantage of the specified subset That the WMF both got Brion back and specifically to do this task is an excellent step forwards. It may be a moderately painful year or two to come, but five years from now we'll all appreciate it. -- -george william herbert george.herbert(a)gmail.com

Samuel Klein

9:43 p.m.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:33 PM, George Herbert <george.herbert(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Liam Wyatt <liamwyatt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 8 March 2011 00:23, church.of.emacs.ml <church.of.emacs.ml(a)googlemail.com wrote: >> >> >> Lead Architect for the next generation MediaWiki platform

Welcome back, Brion!

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The general concept of a NG has been under discussion on the WMF / Mediawiki technical lists for some years.

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That the WMF both got Brion back and specifically to do this task is an excellent step forwards. It may be a moderately painful year or two to come, but five years from now we'll all appreciate it.

Brion's blog post about the parser bits was great. I hope it's indicative of a series. -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266

teun spaans

7:02 a.m.

Welcome back, Brion! Imho there is no one better suited forthe job than you! Teun On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Jay Walsh <jwalsh(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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Sending on behalf of Danese...

Hello, Yes, the rumors are true! Today I am pleased to announce that after more

than a year away, Brion Vibber will be returning as a full-time employee of Wikimedia Foundation on March 31, 2011. The public posting is available http://blog.wikimedia.org/blog/2011/03/07/brion-vibber-rejoins-wikimedia-fo…. I'm really excited to be announcing this hire, especially at this time. I've been looking for a Lead Architect for the next generation MediaWiki platform, and Brion is of course the ultimate expert in MediaWiki internals. He's also deeply committed to the work we are doing to keep MediaWiki relevant for the next 10 years.

I completely enjoy working with Brion, and I'm totally looking forward to

having him back on the team full time (he has always helped out on a volunteer basis).

Anyway, I wanted to give you all a heads up before the public

announcement. Please join me in welcoming him back!

Danese Cooper CTO, Wikimedia Foundation

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Jan-Bart de Vreede

7:03 a.m.

Awesome news! Welcome back Brion (well you never really left in spirit :) Jan-Bart de Vreede On Mar 8, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Jay Walsh wrote:

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MARIA DE LOS ANGELES HERRERA GARCIA

8 p.m.

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CANT TODO GUSTO RESPONDERIA PERO NO ENTIENDO EL INGLES POR FAVOR ,ESCRIVIR ESPAÑOL ,GRACIAS...

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From: janbart(a)wikimedia.org Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 08:03:31 +0100 To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [Announce] Brion Vibber to rejoin Wikimedia Foundation Awesome news! Welcome back Brion (well you never really left in spirit :) Jan-Bart de Vreede On Mar 8, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Jay Walsh wrote:

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Huib Laurens

8:09 p.m.

Lo sentimos, pero el Inglés es el idioma principal en esta lista.

Pedro Sanchez

8:13 p.m.

2011/3/8 Huib Laurens <sterkebak(a)gmail.com>om>:

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Lo sentimos, pero el Inglés es el idioma principal en esta lista.

:Not only is english the main idioma, dare I say the only one (any thread started on another language would raise complains and quickly turned into english)

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Samuel Klein

9:25 p.m.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Pedro Sanchez <pdsanchez(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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2011/3/8 Huib Laurens <sterkebak(a)gmail.com>om>:

Lo sentimos, pero el Inglés es el idioma principal en esta lista.

:Not only is english the main idioma, dare I say the only one (any thread started on another language would raise complains and quickly turned into english)

I'd like to see that tested, personally. More than 50% of the Foundation contributors do not write in English, and don't read English as a primary language; if this is true, then we should implement a better solution for foundation-level discussions in other major language families. However, Maria's emails haven't indicated that she knows anything about this list, nor has she posted to wikies-l... not the best test case. SJ -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266

Domas Mituzas

9 Mar 9 Mar

9:21 a.m.

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if this is true, then we should implement a better solution for foundation-level discussions in other major language families.

I nominate SJ to translate all emails. I saw him do that before, he's good! Brion would suggest Esperanto though. You two will have to fight it out. Domas

Lodewijk

9:50 a.m.

Mi ne havas kontraŭstaron pri Esperanto en ĉi tiu specifa temo. Bedaŭrinde mankas Google traduki en ĉi tiu lingvo! 2011/3/9 Domas Mituzas <midom.lists(a)gmail.com>

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if this is true, then we should implement a better solution for foundation-level discussions in other major language families.

I nominate SJ to translate all emails. I saw him do that before, he's good! Brion would suggest Esperanto though. You two will have to fight it out. Domas _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Andre Engels

10:20 a.m.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org> wrote:

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Mi ne havas kontraŭstaron pri Esperanto en ĉi tiu specifa temo. Bedaŭrinde mankas Google traduki en ĉi tiu lingvo!

Machine translation from Esperanto to English or Hungarian is possible at http://traduku.net -- André Engels, andreengels(a)gmail.com

church.of.emacs.ml

10:51 a.m.

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On 03/08/2011 10:25 PM, Samuel Klein wrote:

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Indeed, language barriers should not be underestimated. But I don't think making foundation-l multilingual would solve any problem: It'd just make this list even more confusing and unclear :) We already have mailing lists in other languages (e.g. WikiDE-l), what's really missing is communications between those lists. (Just to throw in a crazy idea: Informal monthly reports on what's going on in the communities and what's bothering them? And on the other hand a summary of what's being discussed on foundation-l?) A similar problem is software feature requests and bug reports. There's a page on German Wikipedia for new proposals – a useless effort unless someone goes ahead, translates them into English and put them into Bugzilla* (this is infrequently done by some volunteers). --Tobias * although one could even argue that this is useless as well ;)

Yaroslav M. Blanter

4:26 p.m.

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(Just to throw in a crazy idea: Informal monthly reports on what's going on in the communities and what's bothering them? And on the other hand a summary of what's being discussed on foundation-l?)

Sounds actually as a good idea - we just need to figure out what would be the best place to put these reports. Sending them aggregated here once in a months? And of course we need volunteers to write the reports. Cheers Yaroslav

Thomas Dalton

4:39 p.m.

On 9 March 2011 16:26, Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod(a)mccme.ru> wrote:

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(Just to throw in a crazy idea: Informal monthly reports on what's going on in the communities and what's bothering them? And on the other hand a summary of what's being discussed on foundation-l?)

Or send them to the relevant mailing lists. ie. send a monthly report in English about what's been discussed on wikide-l to foundation-l and a monthly report in German about what's been discussed on foundation-l to wikide-l. (And similiarly for other lists, I'm just using the examples already given.)

Yaroslav M. Blanter

5:22 p.m.

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We have 500+ projects, imagine 20 of them will manage to write monthly reports on a regular basis. Do we really want 20 reports on foundation-l monthly? Cheers Yaroslav

Thomas Dalton

5:25 p.m.

On 9 March 2011 17:22, Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod(a)mccme.ru> wrote:

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We have 500+ projects, imagine 20 of them will manage to write monthly reports on a regular basis. Do we really want 20 reports on foundation-l monthly?

Sure, why not? As long as they have clear subject lines, people that aren't interested can ignore them.

phoebe ayers

10 Mar 10 Mar

12:14 a.m.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 2:51 AM, church.of.emacs.ml <church.of.emacs.ml(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

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On 03/08/2011 10:25 PM, Samuel Klein wrote:

*cough* Please someone revive LSS please: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LSS :) -- phoebe p.s. welcome back Brion! We should have Esperanto-only day just for you.

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Andre Engels
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Florence Devouard
George Herbert
Huib Laurens
Jan-Bart de Vreede
Jay Walsh
Keegan Peterzell
Liam Wyatt
Lodewijk
MARIA DE LOS ANGELES HERRERA GARCIA
Nikola Smolenski
Pedro Sanchez
phoebe ayers
Samuel Klein
teun spaans
Thomas Dalton
Yaroslav M. Blanter