Hi all,
The straw poll [1] for the name of the new travel guide project has closed. While there's been strong support for the name Wikivoyage, there have also been strong arguments expressing the desire for a more open-ended process and no overall consensus to go forward without it. The Wikimedia Foundation therefore would like to invite participation in an open process, which is described at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Guide/Naming_Process, and begins immediately with the submission of suggested names (please note the submission process). Thank you for your participation.
Thanks, pb
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Thanks for keeping this rolling, Philippe. It's great to see the names turned up already.
SJ
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Philippe Beaudette philippe@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Hi all,
The straw poll [1] for the name of the new travel guide project has closed. While there's been strong support for the name Wikivoyage, there have also been strong arguments expressing the desire for a more open-ended process and no overall consensus to go forward without it. The Wikimedia Foundation therefore would like to invite participation in an open process, which is described at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Guide/Naming_Process, and begins immediately with the submission of suggested names (please note the submission process). Thank you for your participation.
Thanks, pb
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Thanks Philippe,
just as clarification: do I understand correctly that people can only suggest names that are either owned by the WMF or they are willing to invest money to buy the domains for at least the .org and possibly some more? Or would the WMF also be willing to buy/reimburse the domains that would likely be serious candidates? This wasn't entirely clear from the page to me.
Best, Lodewijk
2012/9/27 Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com
Thanks for keeping this rolling, Philippe. It's great to see the names turned up already.
SJ
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Philippe Beaudette philippe@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Hi all,
The straw poll [1] for the name of the new travel guide project has
closed.
While there's been strong support for the name Wikivoyage, there have
also
been strong arguments expressing the desire for a more open-ended process and no overall consensus to go forward without it. The Wikimedia
Foundation
therefore would like to invite participation in an open process, which is described at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Guide/Naming_Process
,
and begins immediately with the submission of suggested names (please
note
the submission process). Thank you for your participation.
Thanks, pb
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Hi Lodewijk,
Currently the process is that the suggested name must be owned by the WMF or a volunteer who is willing to transfer it free of charge. Any exceptions would have to be worked out with Kelly and Erik.
Thanks, pb ___________________ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
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On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.orgwrote:
Thanks Philippe,
just as clarification: do I understand correctly that people can only suggest names that are either owned by the WMF or they are willing to invest money to buy the domains for at least the .org and possibly some more? Or would the WMF also be willing to buy/reimburse the domains that would likely be serious candidates? This wasn't entirely clear from the page to me.
Best, Lodewijk
2012/9/27 Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com
Thanks for keeping this rolling, Philippe. It's great to see the names turned up already.
SJ
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Philippe Beaudette philippe@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Hi all,
The straw poll [1] for the name of the new travel guide project has
closed.
While there's been strong support for the name Wikivoyage, there have
also
been strong arguments expressing the desire for a more open-ended
process
and no overall consensus to go forward without it. The Wikimedia
Foundation
therefore would like to invite participation in an open process, which
is
described at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Guide/Naming_Process
,
and begins immediately with the submission of suggested names (please
note
the submission process). Thank you for your participation.
Thanks, pb
[1] -
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Guide/Naming_straw_poll/en
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If anyone has a good idea for a name, but lacks to funds or means to pick it up (and the WMF declines to do so), feel free to get in touch. I am happy to handle the purchase and later transfer (if it wins!) for you :)
Hopefully that removes that hurdle :D
Tom
On 27 September 2012 13:48, Philippe Beaudette philippe@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Hi Lodewijk,
Currently the process is that the suggested name must be owned by the WMF or a volunteer who is willing to transfer it free of charge. Any exceptions would have to be worked out with Kelly and Erik.
Thanks, pb ___________________ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
415-839-6885, x 6643
philippe@wikimedia.org
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
wrote:
Thanks Philippe,
just as clarification: do I understand correctly that people can only suggest names that are either owned by the WMF or they are willing to invest money to buy the domains for at least the .org and possibly some more? Or would the WMF also be willing to buy/reimburse the domains that would likely be serious candidates? This wasn't entirely clear from the page to me.
Best, Lodewijk
2012/9/27 Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com
Thanks for keeping this rolling, Philippe. It's great to see the names turned up already.
SJ
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Philippe Beaudette philippe@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Hi all,
The straw poll [1] for the name of the new travel guide project has
closed.
While there's been strong support for the name Wikivoyage, there
have
also
been strong arguments expressing the desire for a more open-ended
process
and no overall consensus to go forward without it. The Wikimedia
Foundation
therefore would like to invite participation in an open process,
which
is
described at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Guide/Naming_Process
,
and begins immediately with the submission of suggested names (please
note
the submission process). Thank you for your participation.
Thanks, pb
[1] -
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Guide/Naming_straw_poll/en
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Hi Tom,
thanks for the offer :) That was indeed the situation I was referring to. It would probably be good to mention on the page who people should contact (first Erik, and he will send people from there?). I don't have any awesome ideas currently, but I can very well imagine other people might :)
Lodewijk
2012/9/27 Thomas Morton morton.thomas@googlemail.com
If anyone has a good idea for a name, but lacks to funds or means to pick it up (and the WMF declines to do so), feel free to get in touch. I am happy to handle the purchase and later transfer (if it wins!) for you :)
Hopefully that removes that hurdle :D
Tom
On 27 September 2012 13:48, Philippe Beaudette <philippe@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hi Lodewijk,
Currently the process is that the suggested name must be owned by the WMF or a volunteer who is willing to transfer it free of charge. Any exceptions would have to be worked out with Kelly and Erik.
Thanks, pb ___________________ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
415-839-6885, x 6643
philippe@wikimedia.org
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
wrote:
Thanks Philippe,
just as clarification: do I understand correctly that people can only suggest names that are either owned by the WMF or they are willing to invest money to buy the domains for at least the .org and possibly some more? Or would the WMF also be willing to buy/reimburse the domains
that
would likely be serious candidates? This wasn't entirely clear from the page to me.
Best, Lodewijk
2012/9/27 Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com
Thanks for keeping this rolling, Philippe. It's great to see the names turned up already.
SJ
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Philippe Beaudette philippe@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Hi all,
The straw poll [1] for the name of the new travel guide project has
closed.
While there's been strong support for the name Wikivoyage, there
have
also
been strong arguments expressing the desire for a more open-ended
process
and no overall consensus to go forward without it. The Wikimedia
Foundation
therefore would like to invite participation in an open process,
which
is
described at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Guide/Naming_Process
,
and begins immediately with the submission of suggested names
(please
note
the submission process). Thank you for your participation.
Thanks, pb
[1] -
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Guide/Naming_straw_poll/en
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On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
thanks for the offer :) That was indeed the situation I was referring to. It would probably be good to mention on the page who people should contact (first Erik, and he will send people from there?). I don't have any awesome ideas currently, but I can very well imagine other people might :)
The process for suggesting names is outlined here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Guide/Naming_Process#Suggesting_names
Please note that I just had to shorten the time window for suggesting names by two days to allow for sufficient time for domain name transfer, certificate setup, etc. consistent with the launch timetable. So please, if you're holding on to a name that you think ought to be on the list, submit it _now_. :-)
Erik
Is the idea of owning the domain name first (and submitting it by e-mail) aimed at forestalling any sniping? I have a suggestion, for instance, but I don't own it nor necessarily want to buy it without some likelihood of it being selected. In that case, should I suggest it and risk having it sniped by someone with other interests?
~Nathan
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
thanks for the offer :) That was indeed the situation I was referring to. It would probably be good to mention on the page who people should contact (first Erik, and he will send people from there?). I don't have any awesome ideas currently, but I can very well imagine other people might :)
The process for suggesting names is outlined here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Guide/Naming_Process#Suggesting_names
Please note that I just had to shorten the time window for suggesting names by two days to allow for sufficient time for domain name transfer, certificate setup, etc. consistent with the launch timetable. So please, if you're holding on to a name that you think ought to be on the list, submit it _now_. :-)
Erik
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On 27/09/2012 22:10, Nathan wrote:
Is the idea of owning the domain name first (and submitting it by e-mail) aimed at forestalling any sniping? I have a suggestion, for instance, but I don't own it nor necessarily want to buy it without some likelihood of it being selected. In that case, should I suggest it and risk having it sniped by someone with other interests?
I would assume that was the intention, but even if it weren't, it's a guarantee that someone will register it between the shortlist for voting is published and the end of voting.
KTC
Tom, Thanks for making this offer. The worst that could happen to a Wikimedia competition is, indeed, one that requires money to join. Deryck On Sep 27, 2012 2:15 PM, "Thomas Morton" morton.thomas@googlemail.com wrote:
If anyone has a good idea for a name, but lacks to funds or means to pick it up (and the WMF declines to do so), feel free to get in touch. I am happy to handle the purchase and later transfer (if it wins!) for you :)
Hopefully that removes that hurdle :D
Tom
On 27 September 2012 13:48, Philippe Beaudette <philippe@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hi Lodewijk,
Currently the process is that the suggested name must be owned by the WMF or a volunteer who is willing to transfer it free of charge. Any exceptions would have to be worked out with Kelly and Erik.
Thanks, pb ___________________ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
415-839-6885, x 6643
philippe@wikimedia.org
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
wrote:
Thanks Philippe,
just as clarification: do I understand correctly that people can only suggest names that are either owned by the WMF or they are willing to invest money to buy the domains for at least the .org and possibly some more? Or would the WMF also be willing to buy/reimburse the domains
that
would likely be serious candidates? This wasn't entirely clear from the page to me.
Best, Lodewijk
2012/9/27 Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com
Thanks for keeping this rolling, Philippe. It's great to see the names turned up already.
SJ
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Philippe Beaudette philippe@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Hi all,
The straw poll [1] for the name of the new travel guide project has
closed.
While there's been strong support for the name Wikivoyage, there
have
also
been strong arguments expressing the desire for a more open-ended
process
and no overall consensus to go forward without it. The Wikimedia
Foundation
therefore would like to invite participation in an open process,
which
is
described at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Guide/Naming_Process
,
and begins immediately with the submission of suggested names
(please
note
the submission process). Thank you for your participation.
Thanks, pb
[1] -
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Guide/Naming_straw_poll/en
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I didn't know WMF have so many domains :)
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.orgwrote:
Thanks Philippe,
just as clarification: do I understand correctly that people can only suggest names that are either owned by the WMF or they are willing to invest money to buy the domains for at least the .org and possibly some more? Or would the WMF also be willing to buy/reimburse the domains that would likely be serious candidates? This wasn't entirely clear from the page to me.
Best, Lodewijk
2012/9/27 Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com
Thanks for keeping this rolling, Philippe. It's great to see the names turned up already.
SJ
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Philippe Beaudette philippe@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Hi all,
The straw poll [1] for the name of the new travel guide project has
closed.
While there's been strong support for the name Wikivoyage, there have
also
been strong arguments expressing the desire for a more open-ended
process
and no overall consensus to go forward without it. The Wikimedia
Foundation
therefore would like to invite participation in an open process, which
is
described at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Guide/Naming_Process
,
and begins immediately with the submission of suggested names (please
note
the submission process). Thank you for your participation.
Thanks, pb
[1] -
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Guide/Naming_straw_poll/en
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