The following is an important point by Fajro:
Google has links to their other sites in the top of every poge: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fajro/5249799850/in/set-72157625445178785/ Wikipedia "sister proyects" are also relegated to the bottom of the page.
The idea of a navigation bar to the other projects was floated in the mailing list post by Erik Moeller mentioned earlier as well.[1]
Say the projects were all renamed. Great. What's changed? Only the name on each page and likely the logo in the upper left. Will the smaller projects magically get more readers and editors and Google page rank? No. We know Wikipedia is huge and gets all the attention from the Foundation and the appeals from *Wikipedia* "authors" showing up on all the sister projects just reinforce that. But as long as links to related content at sister projects are relegated to the bottom of articles per the Wikipedia Manual of Style and the suggested navigation links to sister projects go unimplemented, nothing will change, regardless of what you want to call the projects.
[1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2007-May/029991.html
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Aaron Adrignola, 11/12/2010 05:01:
The following is an important point by Fajro:
Google has links to their other sites in the top of every poge: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fajro/5249799850/in/set-72157625445178785/ Wikipedia "sister proyects" are also relegated to the bottom of the page.
The idea of a navigation bar to the other projects was floated in the mailing list post by Erik Moeller mentioned earlier as well.[1]
It's an interesting point (and almost in topic).
Say the projects were all renamed. Great. What's changed? Only the name on each page and likely the logo in the upper left. Will the smaller projects magically get more readers and editors and Google page rank? No.
In fact the proposers of renaming or merging want to kill the sisterprojects, see e.g. the proposal linked above. I don't think this proposal is worth discussing again, at least not here.
We know Wikipedia is huge and gets all the attention from the Foundation and the appeals from *Wikipedia* "authors" showing up on all the sister projects just reinforce that. But as long as links to related content at sister projects are relegated to the bottom of articles per the Wikipedia Manual of Style and the suggested navigation links to sister projects go unimplemented, nothing will change, regardless of what you want to call the projects.
Please note that you're talking about en.wiki; French, Italian and some more projects have links to sisterprojects also in the sidebar, above interwikis. We don't know how much they're used, but they're certainly a good thing.
Nemo
2010/12/11 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com:
Say the projects were all renamed. Great. What's changed? Only the name on each page and likely the logo in the upper left. Will the smaller projects magically get more readers and editors and Google page rank? No.
In fact the proposers of renaming or merging want to kill the sisterprojects, see e.g. the proposal linked above. I don't think this proposal is worth discussing again, at least not here.
I participate eagerly in one of the sister projects and occasionally in the others and i don't want to kill them, but i do think that renaming is an idea worth considering. I am certain that most of the other people who think that it's a good idea don't want to kill them.
could you please explain, how you reach such a conclusion and why you mix renaming of the foundation up with merging of projects. It is quite out of line with my thinking and my proposal here.
Regards, Sir48/Thyge
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Fra: Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com Til: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Dato: Lør, 11. dec 2010 10:42 Emne: Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki[p/m]edia
In fact the proposers of renaming or merging want to kill the sisterprojects, see e.g. the proposal linked above. I don't think this proposal is worth discussing again, at least not here.
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