Information concerning the election rules, candidacy, and suffrage/ voting requirements for the 2009 election to the Board of Trustees is now posted at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2009/en. I have copied it below, but for the wiki-links to work, you will - of course - need to be on meta.
For the election committee, Philippe
________________________
The 2009 elections to the Board of Trustees will be held between August 3rd and August 10th 2009. Members of the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to elect one candidate to a two-year term which will expire in 2011. The Board of Trustees is the ultimate governing authority of the Wikimedia Foundation, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization registered in the United States. The Wikimedia Foundation manages many diverse projects such as Wikipedia and Commons. The elections will be held securely on servers belonging to an independent third party (to be confirmed). Votes are secret and are only visible to the select few persons who audit and tally the election. Voters will submit ranked preferences by numbering candidates. The votes will be tallied using the Schulze methodto rank candidates based on the number of voters who prefer that candidate over other candidates. The Election Committee intends to announce the results on or before August 12th. Detailed results will be available. All times on this page are 00:00 (midnight) UTC. Contents [hide] 1 Information for voters 1.1 Requirements 1.2 How to vote 2 Information for candidates 2.1 Responsibilities as member of the Board 2.2 Prerequisites to candidacy 2.3 How to submit your candidacy 3 Organization 3.1 Time line 3.2 Translators [edit]Information for voters
[edit]Requirements You may vote from any one registered account you own on a Wikimedia wiki (you may only vote once, regardless of how many accounts you own). To qualify, this one account must: not be blocked; and not be a bot; and have made at least 600 edits before 01 June 2009 across across Wikimedia wikis (edits on several wikis can be combined if your accounts are unified into a global account); and have made at least 50 edits between 01 January and 1 July 2009. Special exceptions: the following may vote regardless of the above requirements: Wikimedia server administrators with shell access; paid staff of the Wikimedia Foundation who started working at the office before 01 March 2009; current or former members of the Board of Trustees. [edit]How to vote If you are eligible to vote: Read the candidate presentations and decide which candidates you will support. Go to the wiki page "Special:Securepoll" on one wiki you qualify to vote from. For example, if you are most active on the wiki meta.wikimedia.org/, go to meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Securepoll. Follow the instructions on that page. [edit]Information for candidates
A detailed description of the responsibilities of a member of the Board can be found at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_member. [edit]Responsibilities as member of the Board Being a Board member of a small organization like the Wikimedia Foundation, which faces immense challenges, can be time-consuming. The position is voluntary and unpaid. While board members are not expected to bring personal money to the organisation, they are welcome to help raise funds. Board members are expected to attend at least 3–4 meetings per year in person, attend Wikimania (our annual conference), and attend other scheduled online meetings and votes. The Board communicates intensively via e-mail, wiki, and IRC. Individual trustees sometimes participate in strategic meetings with other organizations and companies, relaying results back to Board and staff. Individual board members are expected to be involved in certain activities (such as fundraising, Wikimania, or auditing) and to help draft policies, charters and resolutions on such topics. Because Board members owe duties by virtue of their position, candidates who currently hold paid positions with the Wikimedia Foundation must resign from those position before they can be appointed to the Board of Trustees. This is to avoid potential conflicts of interests. [edit]Prerequisites to candidacy To be eligible as a candidate, you must: have made at least 600 edits before 01 March 2009 on any one registered account (edits on several wikis can be combined if your accounts are unified into a global account); and have made at least 50 edits between 01 January and 01 July 2009; and publicly disclose your real name in your candidate presentation (because the identities of Board members are a matter of public record, it is not possible to hold a position on the Board of Trustees anonymously or under a pseudonym); and be at least 18 years old and of legal age in your home country. Special exceptions: current members of the Board of Trustees may be candidates regardless of the above requirements. [edit]How to submit your candidacy If you are eligible, you can submit your candidacy by doing the following: Write a brief summary of no more than 1200 characters stating what you would do if you were elected to the Board of Trustees, your relevant opinions and experience, and anything else you think is relevant. You may not use your candidate summary to link to lists of endorsements or other platform pages, and may not run on a slate with other candidates. Submit your summary between 00:00, 06 July 2009 (UTC) and 23:59, 20 July 2009 (UTC). After July 20, it cannot be changed except for minor corrections or translation. Any additions submitted after this deadline will be time-stamped and presented separately from the original summary, and will only be presented to voters if they get translated into all of the same languages as the original summary. Submit proof of your identity to Cary Bass (Volunteer Coordinator) before 20 July 2009. You will be privately contacted by a member of the Election Committee with further information about meeting this requirement when you list yourself as a candidate. Candidates who fail to comply with the above requirements and deadlines will be disqualified. [edit]Organization
[edit]Time line 01–30 June 2009: primary translation phase; subcommittee actively coordinates and promotes translation. 06–20 July 2009: candidate submissions. 20 July 2009: deadline to send proof of identity (late or missing submissions will be disqualified). 03–10 August 2009: elections. 10–12 August 2009: vote-checking. 12 August 2009: publication of results. [edit]Translators To ensure that a representative cross-section of the Wikimedia community takes part in this election, it is important to translate election notices and candidate statements into as many languages as possible. To help translate, please see the translation page.
Hello Philippe,
I thought this year three candidates would be elected.
Ting
philippe wrote:
Information concerning the election rules, candidacy, and suffrage/ voting requirements for the 2009 election to the Board of Trustees is now posted at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2009/en. I have copied it below, but for the wiki-links to work, you will - of course - need to be on meta.
For the election committee, Philippe
The 2009 elections to the Board of Trustees will be held between August 3rd and August 10th 2009. Members of the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to elect one candidate to a two-year term which will expire in 2011. The Board of Trustees is the ultimate governing authority of the Wikimedia Foundation, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization registered in the United States. The Wikimedia Foundation manages many diverse projects such as Wikipedia and Commons. The elections will be held securely on servers belonging to an independent third party (to be confirmed). Votes are secret and are only visible to the select few persons who audit and tally the election. Voters will submit ranked preferences by numbering candidates. The votes will be tallied using the Schulze methodto rank candidates based on the number of voters who prefer that candidate over other candidates. The Election Committee intends to announce the results on or before August 12th. Detailed results will be available. All times on this page are 00:00 (midnight) UTC. Contents [hide] 1 Information for voters 1.1 Requirements 1.2 How to vote 2 Information for candidates 2.1 Responsibilities as member of the Board 2.2 Prerequisites to candidacy 2.3 How to submit your candidacy 3 Organization 3.1 Time line 3.2 Translators [edit]Information for voters
[edit]Requirements You may vote from any one registered account you own on a Wikimedia wiki (you may only vote once, regardless of how many accounts you own). To qualify, this one account must: not be blocked; and not be a bot; and have made at least 600 edits before 01 June 2009 across across Wikimedia wikis (edits on several wikis can be combined if your accounts are unified into a global account); and have made at least 50 edits between 01 January and 1 July 2009. Special exceptions: the following may vote regardless of the above requirements: Wikimedia server administrators with shell access; paid staff of the Wikimedia Foundation who started working at the office before 01 March 2009; current or former members of the Board of Trustees. [edit]How to vote If you are eligible to vote: Read the candidate presentations and decide which candidates you will support. Go to the wiki page "Special:Securepoll" on one wiki you qualify to vote from. For example, if you are most active on the wiki meta.wikimedia.org/, go to meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Securepoll. Follow the instructions on that page. [edit]Information for candidates
A detailed description of the responsibilities of a member of the Board can be found at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_member. [edit]Responsibilities as member of the Board Being a Board member of a small organization like the Wikimedia Foundation, which faces immense challenges, can be time-consuming. The position is voluntary and unpaid. While board members are not expected to bring personal money to the organisation, they are welcome to help raise funds. Board members are expected to attend at least 3–4 meetings per year in person, attend Wikimania (our annual conference), and attend other scheduled online meetings and votes. The Board communicates intensively via e-mail, wiki, and IRC. Individual trustees sometimes participate in strategic meetings with other organizations and companies, relaying results back to Board and staff. Individual board members are expected to be involved in certain activities (such as fundraising, Wikimania, or auditing) and to help draft policies, charters and resolutions on such topics. Because Board members owe duties by virtue of their position, candidates who currently hold paid positions with the Wikimedia Foundation must resign from those position before they can be appointed to the Board of Trustees. This is to avoid potential conflicts of interests. [edit]Prerequisites to candidacy To be eligible as a candidate, you must: have made at least 600 edits before 01 March 2009 on any one registered account (edits on several wikis can be combined if your accounts are unified into a global account); and have made at least 50 edits between 01 January and 01 July 2009; and publicly disclose your real name in your candidate presentation (because the identities of Board members are a matter of public record, it is not possible to hold a position on the Board of Trustees anonymously or under a pseudonym); and be at least 18 years old and of legal age in your home country. Special exceptions: current members of the Board of Trustees may be candidates regardless of the above requirements. [edit]How to submit your candidacy If you are eligible, you can submit your candidacy by doing the following: Write a brief summary of no more than 1200 characters stating what you would do if you were elected to the Board of Trustees, your relevant opinions and experience, and anything else you think is relevant. You may not use your candidate summary to link to lists of endorsements or other platform pages, and may not run on a slate with other candidates. Submit your summary between 00:00, 06 July 2009 (UTC) and 23:59, 20 July 2009 (UTC). After July 20, it cannot be changed except for minor corrections or translation. Any additions submitted after this deadline will be time-stamped and presented separately from the original summary, and will only be presented to voters if they get translated into all of the same languages as the original summary. Submit proof of your identity to Cary Bass (Volunteer Coordinator) before 20 July 2009. You will be privately contacted by a member of the Election Committee with further information about meeting this requirement when you list yourself as a candidate. Candidates who fail to comply with the above requirements and deadlines will be disqualified. [edit]Organization
[edit]Time line 01–30 June 2009: primary translation phase; subcommittee actively coordinates and promotes translation. 06–20 July 2009: candidate submissions. 20 July 2009: deadline to send proof of identity (late or missing submissions will be disqualified). 03–10 August 2009: elections. 10–12 August 2009: vote-checking. 12 August 2009: publication of results. [edit]Translators To ensure that a representative cross-section of the Wikimedia community takes part in this election, it is important to translate election notices and candidate statements into as many languages as possible. To help translate, please see the translation page.
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Hm, that was also the information I got :)
Besides that, I personally feel that one week in the middle of the vacation is somewhat short for an internet election. Is there an urgent reason not to have it for two weeks? And good luck to count and confirm the votes within two days time! :o I'd find it impressive if that works so well in that tight schedule.
Best,
Lodewijk
2009/5/27 Ting Chen wing.philopp@gmx.de:
Hello Philippe,
I thought this year three candidates would be elected.
Ting
philippe wrote:
Information concerning the election rules, candidacy, and suffrage/ voting requirements for the 2009 election to the Board of Trustees is now posted at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2009/en. I have copied it below, but for the wiki-links to work, you will - of course - need to be on meta.
For the election committee, Philippe
The 2009 elections to the Board of Trustees will be held between August 3rd and August 10th 2009. Members of the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to elect one candidate to a two-year term which will expire in 2011. The Board of Trustees is the ultimate governing authority of the Wikimedia Foundation, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization registered in the United States. The Wikimedia Foundation manages many diverse projects such as Wikipedia and Commons. The elections will be held securely on servers belonging to an independent third party (to be confirmed). Votes are secret and are only visible to the select few persons who audit and tally the election. Voters will submit ranked preferences by numbering candidates. The votes will be tallied using the Schulze methodto rank candidates based on the number of voters who prefer that candidate over other candidates. The Election Committee intends to announce the results on or before August 12th. Detailed results will be available. All times on this page are 00:00 (midnight) UTC. Contents [hide] 1 Information for voters 1.1 Requirements 1.2 How to vote 2 Information for candidates 2.1 Responsibilities as member of the Board 2.2 Prerequisites to candidacy 2.3 How to submit your candidacy 3 Organization 3.1 Time line 3.2 Translators [edit]Information for voters
[edit]Requirements You may vote from any one registered account you own on a Wikimedia wiki (you may only vote once, regardless of how many accounts you own). To qualify, this one account must: not be blocked; and not be a bot; and have made at least 600 edits before 01 June 2009 across across Wikimedia wikis (edits on several wikis can be combined if your accounts are unified into a global account); and have made at least 50 edits between 01 January and 1 July 2009. Special exceptions: the following may vote regardless of the above requirements: Wikimedia server administrators with shell access; paid staff of the Wikimedia Foundation who started working at the office before 01 March 2009; current or former members of the Board of Trustees. [edit]How to vote If you are eligible to vote: Read the candidate presentations and decide which candidates you will support. Go to the wiki page "Special:Securepoll" on one wiki you qualify to vote from. For example, if you are most active on the wiki meta.wikimedia.org/, go to meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Securepoll. Follow the instructions on that page. [edit]Information for candidates
A detailed description of the responsibilities of a member of the Board can be found at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_member. [edit]Responsibilities as member of the Board Being a Board member of a small organization like the Wikimedia Foundation, which faces immense challenges, can be time-consuming. The position is voluntary and unpaid. While board members are not expected to bring personal money to the organisation, they are welcome to help raise funds. Board members are expected to attend at least 3–4 meetings per year in person, attend Wikimania (our annual conference), and attend other scheduled online meetings and votes. The Board communicates intensively via e-mail, wiki, and IRC. Individual trustees sometimes participate in strategic meetings with other organizations and companies, relaying results back to Board and staff. Individual board members are expected to be involved in certain activities (such as fundraising, Wikimania, or auditing) and to help draft policies, charters and resolutions on such topics. Because Board members owe duties by virtue of their position, candidates who currently hold paid positions with the Wikimedia Foundation must resign from those position before they can be appointed to the Board of Trustees. This is to avoid potential conflicts of interests. [edit]Prerequisites to candidacy To be eligible as a candidate, you must: have made at least 600 edits before 01 March 2009 on any one registered account (edits on several wikis can be combined if your accounts are unified into a global account); and have made at least 50 edits between 01 January and 01 July 2009; and publicly disclose your real name in your candidate presentation (because the identities of Board members are a matter of public record, it is not possible to hold a position on the Board of Trustees anonymously or under a pseudonym); and be at least 18 years old and of legal age in your home country. Special exceptions: current members of the Board of Trustees may be candidates regardless of the above requirements. [edit]How to submit your candidacy If you are eligible, you can submit your candidacy by doing the following: Write a brief summary of no more than 1200 characters stating what you would do if you were elected to the Board of Trustees, your relevant opinions and experience, and anything else you think is relevant. You may not use your candidate summary to link to lists of endorsements or other platform pages, and may not run on a slate with other candidates. Submit your summary between 00:00, 06 July 2009 (UTC) and 23:59, 20 July 2009 (UTC). After July 20, it cannot be changed except for minor corrections or translation. Any additions submitted after this deadline will be time-stamped and presented separately from the original summary, and will only be presented to voters if they get translated into all of the same languages as the original summary. Submit proof of your identity to Cary Bass (Volunteer Coordinator) before 20 July 2009. You will be privately contacted by a member of the Election Committee with further information about meeting this requirement when you list yourself as a candidate. Candidates who fail to comply with the above requirements and deadlines will be disqualified. [edit]Organization
[edit]Time line 01–30 June 2009: primary translation phase; subcommittee actively coordinates and promotes translation. 06–20 July 2009: candidate submissions. 20 July 2009: deadline to send proof of identity (late or missing submissions will be disqualified). 03–10 August 2009: elections. 10–12 August 2009: vote-checking. 12 August 2009: publication of results. [edit]Translators To ensure that a representative cross-section of the Wikimedia community takes part in this election, it is important to translate election notices and candidate statements into as many languages as possible. To help translate, please see the translation page.
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Is an Elections Committee being appointed, or has one been?
Newyorkbrad
On 5/27/09, effe iets anders effeietsanders@gmail.com wrote:
Hm, that was also the information I got :)
Besides that, I personally feel that one week in the middle of the vacation is somewhat short for an internet election. Is there an urgent reason not to have it for two weeks? And good luck to count and confirm the votes within two days time! :o I'd find it impressive if that works so well in that tight schedule.
Best,
Lodewijk
2009/5/27 Ting Chen wing.philopp@gmx.de:
Hello Philippe,
I thought this year three candidates would be elected.
Ting
philippe wrote:
Information concerning the election rules, candidacy, and suffrage/ voting requirements for the 2009 election to the Board of Trustees is now posted at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2009/en. I have copied it below, but for the wiki-links to work, you will - of course - need to be on meta.
For the election committee, Philippe
The 2009 elections to the Board of Trustees will be held between August 3rd and August 10th 2009. Members of the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to elect one candidate to a two-year term which will expire in 2011. The Board of Trustees is the ultimate governing authority of the Wikimedia Foundation, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization registered in the United States. The Wikimedia Foundation manages many diverse projects such as Wikipedia and Commons. The elections will be held securely on servers belonging to an independent third party (to be confirmed). Votes are secret and are only visible to the select few persons who audit and tally the election. Voters will submit ranked preferences by numbering candidates. The votes will be tallied using the Schulze methodto rank candidates based on the number of voters who prefer that candidate over other candidates. The Election Committee intends to announce the results on or before August 12th. Detailed results will be available. All times on this page are 00:00 (midnight) UTC. Contents [hide] 1 Information for voters 1.1 Requirements 1.2 How to vote 2 Information for candidates 2.1 Responsibilities as member of the Board 2.2 Prerequisites to candidacy 2.3 How to submit your candidacy 3 Organization 3.1 Time line 3.2 Translators [edit]Information for voters
[edit]Requirements You may vote from any one registered account you own on a Wikimedia wiki (you may only vote once, regardless of how many accounts you own). To qualify, this one account must: not be blocked; and not be a bot; and have made at least 600 edits before 01 June 2009 across across Wikimedia wikis (edits on several wikis can be combined if your accounts are unified into a global account); and have made at least 50 edits between 01 January and 1 July 2009. Special exceptions: the following may vote regardless of the above requirements: Wikimedia server administrators with shell access; paid staff of the Wikimedia Foundation who started working at the office before 01 March 2009; current or former members of the Board of Trustees. [edit]How to vote If you are eligible to vote: Read the candidate presentations and decide which candidates you will support. Go to the wiki page "Special:Securepoll" on one wiki you qualify to vote from. For example, if you are most active on the wiki meta.wikimedia.org/, go to meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Securepoll. Follow the instructions on that page. [edit]Information for candidates
A detailed description of the responsibilities of a member of the Board can be found at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_member. [edit]Responsibilities as member of the Board Being a Board member of a small organization like the Wikimedia Foundation, which faces immense challenges, can be time-consuming. The position is voluntary and unpaid. While board members are not expected to bring personal money to the organisation, they are welcome to help raise funds. Board members are expected to attend at least 3–4 meetings per year in person, attend Wikimania (our annual conference), and attend other scheduled online meetings and votes. The Board communicates intensively via e-mail, wiki, and IRC. Individual trustees sometimes participate in strategic meetings with other organizations and companies, relaying results back to Board and staff. Individual board members are expected to be involved in certain activities (such as fundraising, Wikimania, or auditing) and to help draft policies, charters and resolutions on such topics. Because Board members owe duties by virtue of their position, candidates who currently hold paid positions with the Wikimedia Foundation must resign from those position before they can be appointed to the Board of Trustees. This is to avoid potential conflicts of interests. [edit]Prerequisites to candidacy To be eligible as a candidate, you must: have made at least 600 edits before 01 March 2009 on any one registered account (edits on several wikis can be combined if your accounts are unified into a global account); and have made at least 50 edits between 01 January and 01 July 2009; and publicly disclose your real name in your candidate presentation (because the identities of Board members are a matter of public record, it is not possible to hold a position on the Board of Trustees anonymously or under a pseudonym); and be at least 18 years old and of legal age in your home country. Special exceptions: current members of the Board of Trustees may be candidates regardless of the above requirements. [edit]How to submit your candidacy If you are eligible, you can submit your candidacy by doing the following: Write a brief summary of no more than 1200 characters stating what you would do if you were elected to the Board of Trustees, your relevant opinions and experience, and anything else you think is relevant. You may not use your candidate summary to link to lists of endorsements or other platform pages, and may not run on a slate with other candidates. Submit your summary between 00:00, 06 July 2009 (UTC) and 23:59, 20 July 2009 (UTC). After July 20, it cannot be changed except for minor corrections or translation. Any additions submitted after this deadline will be time-stamped and presented separately from the original summary, and will only be presented to voters if they get translated into all of the same languages as the original summary. Submit proof of your identity to Cary Bass (Volunteer Coordinator) before 20 July 2009. You will be privately contacted by a member of the Election Committee with further information about meeting this requirement when you list yourself as a candidate. Candidates who fail to comply with the above requirements and deadlines will be disqualified. [edit]Organization
[edit]Time line 01–30 June 2009: primary translation phase; subcommittee actively coordinates and promotes translation. 06–20 July 2009: candidate submissions. 20 July 2009: deadline to send proof of identity (late or missing submissions will be disqualified). 03–10 August 2009: elections. 10–12 August 2009: vote-checking. 12 August 2009: publication of results. [edit]Translators To ensure that a representative cross-section of the Wikimedia community takes part in this election, it is important to translate election notices and candidate statements into as many languages as possible. To help translate, please see the translation page.
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On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) < newyorkbrad@gmail.com> wrote:
Is an Elections Committee being appointed, or has one been?
Newyorkbrad
Yes, see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2009/Committee/en#Membership
Regards,
The reason not to have it in two weeks is that it generally takes longer than that to effectively translate both the policy pages and the candidate statements to allow as many people to participate in as many languages as possible. Two weeks would almost guarantee a primarily english-centric election. In the past we've had no problem getting the votes counted/confirmed in two days; we did it last year.
And as to the number of seats... checking. I seem to recall that three seats is correct as well; I think the single seat statement came through with last years' text. Once I've confirmed that, we'll update the page.
___________________ Philippe
On May 27, 2009, at 7:56 AM, effe iets anders wrote:
Hm, that was also the information I got :)
Besides that, I personally feel that one week in the middle of the vacation is somewhat short for an internet election. Is there an urgent reason not to have it for two weeks? And good luck to count and confirm the votes within two days time! :o I'd find it impressive if that works so well in that tight schedule.
Best,
Lodewijk
2009/5/27 Ting Chen wing.philopp@gmx.de:
Hello Philippe,
I thought this year three candidates would be elected.
Ting
philippe wrote:
Information concerning the election rules, candidacy, and suffrage/ voting requirements for the 2009 election to the Board of Trustees is now posted at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2009/ en. I have copied it below, but for the wiki-links to work, you will - of course - need to be on meta.
For the election committee, Philippe
The 2009 elections to the Board of Trustees will be held between August 3rd and August 10th 2009. Members of the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to elect one candidate to a two-year term which will expire in 2011. The Board of Trustees is the ultimate governing authority of the Wikimedia Foundation, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization registered in the United States. The Wikimedia Foundation manages many diverse projects such as Wikipedia and Commons. The elections will be held securely on servers belonging to an independent third party (to be confirmed). Votes are secret and are only visible to the select few persons who audit and tally the election. Voters will submit ranked preferences by numbering candidates. The votes will be tallied using the Schulze methodto rank candidates based on the number of voters who prefer that candidate over other candidates. The Election Committee intends to announce the results on or before August 12th. Detailed results will be available. All times on this page are 00:00 (midnight) UTC. Contents [hide] 1 Information for voters 1.1 Requirements 1.2 How to vote 2 Information for candidates 2.1 Responsibilities as member of the Board 2.2 Prerequisites to candidacy 2.3 How to submit your candidacy 3 Organization 3.1 Time line 3.2 Translators [edit]Information for voters
[edit]Requirements You may vote from any one registered account you own on a Wikimedia wiki (you may only vote once, regardless of how many accounts you own). To qualify, this one account must: not be blocked; and not be a bot; and have made at least 600 edits before 01 June 2009 across across Wikimedia wikis (edits on several wikis can be combined if your accounts are unified into a global account); and have made at least 50 edits between 01 January and 1 July 2009. Special exceptions: the following may vote regardless of the above requirements: Wikimedia server administrators with shell access; paid staff of the Wikimedia Foundation who started working at the office before 01 March 2009; current or former members of the Board of Trustees. [edit]How to vote If you are eligible to vote: Read the candidate presentations and decide which candidates you will support. Go to the wiki page "Special:Securepoll" on one wiki you qualify to vote from. For example, if you are most active on the wiki meta.wikimedia.org/, go to meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ Special:Securepoll. Follow the instructions on that page. [edit]Information for candidates
A detailed description of the responsibilities of a member of the Board can be found at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_member . [edit]Responsibilities as member of the Board Being a Board member of a small organization like the Wikimedia Foundation, which faces immense challenges, can be time-consuming. The position is voluntary and unpaid. While board members are not expected to bring personal money to the organisation, they are welcome to help raise funds. Board members are expected to attend at least 3–4 meetings per year in person, attend Wikimania (our annual conference), and attend other scheduled online meetings and votes. The Board communicates intensively via e-mail, wiki, and IRC. Individual trustees sometimes participate in strategic meetings with other organizations and companies, relaying results back to Board and staff. Individual board members are expected to be involved in certain activities (such as fundraising, Wikimania, or auditing) and to help draft policies, charters and resolutions on such topics. Because Board members owe duties by virtue of their position, candidates who currently hold paid positions with the Wikimedia Foundation must resign from those position before they can be appointed to the Board of Trustees. This is to avoid potential conflicts of interests. [edit]Prerequisites to candidacy To be eligible as a candidate, you must: have made at least 600 edits before 01 March 2009 on any one registered account (edits on several wikis can be combined if your accounts are unified into a global account); and have made at least 50 edits between 01 January and 01 July 2009; and publicly disclose your real name in your candidate presentation (because the identities of Board members are a matter of public record, it is not possible to hold a position on the Board of Trustees anonymously or under a pseudonym); and be at least 18 years old and of legal age in your home country. Special exceptions: current members of the Board of Trustees may be candidates regardless of the above requirements. [edit]How to submit your candidacy If you are eligible, you can submit your candidacy by doing the following: Write a brief summary of no more than 1200 characters stating what you would do if you were elected to the Board of Trustees, your relevant opinions and experience, and anything else you think is relevant. You may not use your candidate summary to link to lists of endorsements or other platform pages, and may not run on a slate with other candidates. Submit your summary between 00:00, 06 July 2009 (UTC) and 23:59, 20 July 2009 (UTC). After July 20, it cannot be changed except for minor corrections or translation. Any additions submitted after this deadline will be time-stamped and presented separately from the original summary, and will only be presented to voters if they get translated into all of the same languages as the original summary. Submit proof of your identity to Cary Bass (Volunteer Coordinator) before 20 July 2009. You will be privately contacted by a member of the Election Committee with further information about meeting this requirement when you list yourself as a candidate. Candidates who fail to comply with the above requirements and deadlines will be disqualified. [edit]Organization
[edit]Time line 01–30 June 2009: primary translation phase; subcommittee actively coordinates and promotes translation. 06–20 July 2009: candidate submissions. 20 July 2009: deadline to send proof of identity (late or missing submissions will be disqualified). 03–10 August 2009: elections. 10–12 August 2009: vote-checking. 12 August 2009: publication of results. [edit]Translators To ensure that a representative cross-section of the Wikimedia community takes part in this election, it is important to translate election notices and candidate statements into as many languages as possible. To help translate, please see the translation page.
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On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:54 AM, philippe philippe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
The reason not to have it in two weeks is that it generally takes longer than that to effectively translate both the policy pages and the candidate statements to allow as many people to participate in as many languages as possible. Two weeks would almost guarantee a primarily english-centric election. In the past we've had no problem getting the votes counted/confirmed in two days; we did it last year.
I believe the suggestion is to have the vote lasting for 2 weeks, not starting in 2 weeks from now.
Voting last for 3 weeks in past elections.
Angela
2009/5/27 Angela beesley@gmail.com:
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:54 AM, philippe philippe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
The reason not to have it in two weeks is that it generally takes longer than that to effectively translate both the policy pages and the candidate statements to allow as many people to participate in as many languages as possible. Two weeks would almost guarantee a primarily english-centric election. In the past we've had no problem getting the votes counted/confirmed in two days; we did it last year.
I believe the suggestion is to have the vote lasting for 2 weeks, not starting in 2 weeks from now.
Voting last for 3 weeks in past elections.
Angela
indeed, thanks for clarifying :)
Lodewijk
Ah, OK, sorry for my misunderstanding of the question.
Indeed, we had that same discussion amongst the committee. In the end, the vote timing is driven by Wikimania and the need to purchase tickets for the new trustees-designate to get there (at a reasonable price, which usually requires a 14 day advance purchase), while also taking the time to get the translations done as completely as possible.
In addition, it was our feeling that last year that the first week had - by far - the vast majority of the votes cast with relatively little movement afterwards.
___________________ philippe
On May 27, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Angela wrote:
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:54 AM, philippe philippe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
The reason not to have it in two weeks is that it generally takes longer than that to effectively translate both the policy pages and the candidate statements to allow as many people to participate in as many languages as possible. Two weeks would almost guarantee a primarily english-centric election. In the past we've had no problem getting the votes counted/confirmed in two days; we did it last year.
I believe the suggestion is to have the vote lasting for 2 weeks, not starting in 2 weeks from now.
Voting last for 3 weeks in past elections.
Angela
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Would a 10-day period (including two weekends) be possible?
Newyorkbrad
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:16 PM, philippe philippe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Ah, OK, sorry for my misunderstanding of the question.
Indeed, we had that same discussion amongst the committee. In the end, the vote timing is driven by Wikimania and the need to purchase tickets for the new trustees-designate to get there (at a reasonable price, which usually requires a 14 day advance purchase), while also taking the time to get the translations done as completely as possible.
In addition, it was our feeling that last year that the first week had
- by far - the vast majority of the votes cast with relatively little
movement afterwards.
philippe
On May 27, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Angela wrote:
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:54 AM, philippe philippe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
The reason not to have it in two weeks is that it generally takes longer than that to effectively translate both the policy pages and the candidate statements to allow as many people to participate in as many languages as possible. Two weeks would almost guarantee a primarily english-centric election. In the past we've had no problem getting the votes counted/confirmed in two days; we did it last year.
I believe the suggestion is to have the vote lasting for 2 weeks, not starting in 2 weeks from now.
Voting last for 3 weeks in past elections.
Angela
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I'm certainly not empowered to say yes or no to that on my own, but I'll carry it back to the committee and see what the feeling there is. :-)
Philippe
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On May 27, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) wrote:
Would a 10-day period (including two weekends) be possible?
Newyorkbrad
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:16 PM, philippe philippe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Ah, OK, sorry for my misunderstanding of the question.
Indeed, we had that same discussion amongst the committee. In the end, the vote timing is driven by Wikimania and the need to purchase tickets for the new trustees-designate to get there (at a reasonable price, which usually requires a 14 day advance purchase), while also taking the time to get the translations done as completely as possible.
In addition, it was our feeling that last year that the first week had
- by far - the vast majority of the votes cast with relatively little
movement afterwards.
philippe
On May 27, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Angela wrote:
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:54 AM, philippe philippe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
The reason not to have it in two weeks is that it generally takes longer than that to effectively translate both the policy pages and the candidate statements to allow as many people to participate in as many languages as possible. Two weeks would almost guarantee a primarily english-centric election. In the past we've had no problem getting the votes counted/confirmed in two days; we did it last year.
I believe the suggestion is to have the vote lasting for 2 weeks, not starting in 2 weeks from now.
Voting last for 3 weeks in past elections.
Angela
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Hi all,
As promised on this list, the election committee has revisited the election dates. The election pages have been updated to reflect new dates for this election: July 28 through August 10. It is our hope that this expanded voting time will serve to allay some of the concerns raised here and allow a broader participation from the community.
The election information remains at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2009
For the committee, Philippe
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On May 27, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
I'm certainly not empowered to say yes or no to that on my own, but I'll carry it back to the committee and see what the feeling there is. :-)
That would be very much appreciated. Many of us will be traveling in August.
Cheers Yaroslav
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Hi all,
As promised on this list, the election committee has revisited the election dates. The election pages have been updated to reflect new dates for this election: July 28 through August 10. It is our hope that this expanded voting time will serve to allay some of the concerns raised here and allow a broader participation from the community.
The election information remains at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2009
For the committee, Philippe
This is a great development, thank you and the rest of the committee.
Cheers Yaroslav
Thanks for this compromise :) Could you put in the notes for the next time something about reconsidering the time table on an earlier moment and discussing that with the community? :P (so we won't forget)
Best Lodewijk
2009/5/30 Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ru:
Hi all,
As promised on this list, the election committee has revisited the election dates. The election pages have been updated to reflect new dates for this election: July 28 through August 10. It is our hope that this expanded voting time will serve to allay some of the concerns raised here and allow a broader participation from the community.
The election information remains at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2009
For the committee, Philippe
This is a great development, thank you and the rest of the committee.
Cheers Yaroslav
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On May 30, 2009, at 9:22 AM, effe iets anders wrote:
Could you put in the notes for the next time something about reconsidering the time table on an earlier moment and discussing that with the community? :P (so we won't forget)
Sure will. I've started a follow-up file, and I'm sure other committee members have their own systems for tracking items for post- election discussion. This will go in mine. :)
Philippe
But last year was earlier :) Not in the very middle of the vacation.
Lodewijk
2009/5/27 philippe philippe.wiki@gmail.com:
Ah, OK, sorry for my misunderstanding of the question.
Indeed, we had that same discussion amongst the committee. In the end, the vote timing is driven by Wikimania and the need to purchase tickets for the new trustees-designate to get there (at a reasonable price, which usually requires a 14 day advance purchase), while also taking the time to get the translations done as completely as possible.
In addition, it was our feeling that last year that the first week had
- by far - the vast majority of the votes cast with relatively little
movement afterwards.
philippe
On May 27, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Angela wrote:
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:54 AM, philippe philippe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
The reason not to have it in two weeks is that it generally takes longer than that to effectively translate both the policy pages and the candidate statements to allow as many people to participate in as many languages as possible. Two weeks would almost guarantee a primarily english-centric election. In the past we've had no problem getting the votes counted/confirmed in two days; we did it last year.
I believe the suggestion is to have the vote lasting for 2 weeks, not starting in 2 weeks from now.
Voting last for 3 weeks in past elections.
Angela
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On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:16 AM, philippe philippe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Ah, OK, sorry for my misunderstanding of the question.
Indeed, we had that same discussion amongst the committee. In the end, the vote timing is driven by Wikimania and the need to purchase tickets for the new trustees-designate to get there (at a reasonable price, which usually requires a 14 day advance purchase), while also taking the time to get the translations done as completely as possible.
In addition, it was our feeling that last year that the first week had
- by far - the vast majority of the votes cast with relatively little
movement afterwards.
You mileage may vary of course, but the Licensing Update vote had roughly 60%, 25% and 15% of votes cast during each of its three weeks. I'd hate to have ignored 40% by stopping after only 1 week.
-Robert Rohde
Robert Rohde wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:16 AM, philippe philippe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Ah, OK, sorry for my misunderstanding of the question.
Indeed, we had that same discussion amongst the committee. In the end, the vote timing is driven by Wikimania and the need to purchase tickets for the new trustees-designate to get there (at a reasonable price, which usually requires a 14 day advance purchase), while also taking the time to get the translations done as completely as possible.
In addition, it was our feeling that last year that the first week had
- by far - the vast majority of the votes cast with relatively little
movement afterwards.
You mileage may vary of course, but the Licensing Update vote had roughly 60%, 25% and 15% of votes cast during each of its three weeks. I'd hate to have ignored 40% by stopping after only 1 week.
The ticket purchase seems like a lame excuse for cutting down the voting period. Let the candidates buy their own tickets early, and the winners can be reimbursed when they get to Buenos Aires.
This year's Wikimania is more than a month later than last year's. By having the election roughly at the same time as last year's there would be more than ample time for three weeks of voting. The voting members should not be deprived of voting opportunities because of the election committee's failure to recognize this.
Ec
I have checked and can confirm that we are dealing with THREE seats. It was a cut/paste error (from last year's document to this year's), for which I take full responsibility. I'm updating the documentation now. :-)
Philippe
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On May 27, 2009, at 10:54 AM, philippe wrote:
And as to the number of seats... checking. I seem to recall that three seats is correct as well; I think the single seat statement came through with last years' text. Once I've confirmed that, we'll update the page.
Philippe
On May 27, 2009, at 7:56 AM, effe iets anders wrote:
Hm, that was also the information I got :)
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Have you discussed software requirements with developers?
I'm not sure the new SecurePoll software is yet set up to allow for preferential voting (either on the input side or the tallying side).
Also, we had a number of problems with tallying [1]. Some of which was a result of essentially overloading the software with 17000 votes, but even if you avoid that issue (for example by having stricter suffrage requirements), there are still some things to look out for. Which reminds me that I still need to go file some Bug reports...
August is plenty of lead time to address these issues, but they shouldn't be kept to the last minute.
-Robert Rohde
[1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/licom-l/2009-May/000245.html
My understanding is that SecurePoll can handle the type of vote we're dealing with, but I'll certainly double-check based on your comments. Thanks for the heads-up.
___________________ philippe philippe.wiki@gmail.com Administrator, OTRS Volunteer
[[en:User:Philippe]]
On May 27, 2009, at 12:16 PM, Robert Rohde wrote:
Have you discussed software requirements with developers?
I'm not sure the new SecurePoll software is yet set up to allow for preferential voting (either on the input side or the tallying side).
Also, we had a number of problems with tallying [1]. Some of which was a result of essentially overloading the software with 17000 votes, but even if you avoid that issue (for example by having stricter suffrage requirements), there are still some things to look out for. Which reminds me that I still need to go file some Bug reports...
August is plenty of lead time to address these issues, but they shouldn't be kept to the last minute.
-Robert Rohde
[1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/licom-l/2009-May/000245.html
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Hoi,SecurePoll is being localised at translatewiki.net. At this moment there are 35 languages ready for this vote and for 65 languages there is some localisation. Please check out if your community will be enabled by the software to vote. Thanks, GerardM
ar العربية 100.00% 0.00% be-tarask Беларуская (тарашкевіца) 100.00% 0.00% bs Bosanski 100.00% 0.00% cs Česky 100.00% 0.00% cy Cymraeg 100.00% 0.00% de Deutsch 100.00% 0.00% dsb Dolnoserbski 100.00% 0.00% en English 100.00% 0.00% fr Français 100.00% 0.00% gl Galego 100.00% 0.00% gsw Alemannisch 100.00% 0.00% he עברית 100.00% 0.00% hsb Hornjoserbsce 100.00% 0.00% ia Interlingua 100.00% 0.00% id Bahasa Indonesia 100.00% 0.00% ja 日本語 100.00% 0.00% ko 한국어 100.00% 0.00% ksh Ripoarisch 100.00% 0.00% nds Plattdüütsch 100.00% 0.00% nl Nederlands 100.00% 0.00% no Norsk (bokmål) 100.00% 0.00% oc Occitan 100.00% 0.00% pap Papiamentu 100.00% 0.00% pl Polski 100.00% 0.00% pt Português 100.00% 0.00% pt-br Português do Brasil 100.00% 0.00% ru Русский 100.00% 0.00% sah Саха тыла 100.00% 0.00% sk Slovenčina 100.00% 0.00% tl Tagalog 100.00% 0.00% tr Türkçe 100.00% 0.00% vi Tiếng Việt 100.00% 0.00% yue 粵語 100.00% 0.00% zh-hans 中文(简体) 100.00% 0.00% zh-hant 中文(繁體) 100.00% 0.00% el Ελληνικά 97.70% 0.00% lb Lëtzebuergesch 93.10% 0.00% li Limburgs 91.95% 0.00% vec Vèneto 86.21% 0.00% ca Català 83.91% 0.00% hu Magyar 75.86% 0.00% it Italiano 75.86% 0.00% eo Esperanto 73.56% 0.00% es Español 73.56% 0.00% sv Svenska 67.82% 0.00% ms Bahasa Melayu 59.77% 0.00% da Dansk 57.47% 2.30% nn Norsk (nynorsk) 57.47% 0.00% fa فارسی 27.59% 0.00% fi Suomi 27.59% 0.00% qqq Message documentation 27.59% 0.00% et Eesti 26.44% 1.15% de-formal Deutsch (Sie-Form) 19.54% 0.00% bg Български 17.24% 0.00% th ไทย 16.09% 0.00% ur اردو 12.64% 1.15% te తలుగు 11.49% 0.00% za Vahcuengh 11.49% 0.00% vep Vepsan kel' 10.34% 0.00% mk Македонски 4.60% 0.00% roa-tara Tarandíne 4.60% 0.00% ga Gaeilge 3.45% 0.00% nds-nl Nedersaksisch 3.45% 0.00% sr-ec ћирилица 1.15% 0.00% zh-hk 中文(香港) 1.15% 0.00% 2009/5/27 philippe philippe.wiki@gmail.com
My understanding is that SecurePoll can handle the type of vote we're dealing with, but I'll certainly double-check based on your comments. Thanks for the heads-up.
philippe philippe.wiki@gmail.com Administrator, OTRS Volunteer
[[en:User:Philippe]]
On May 27, 2009, at 12:16 PM, Robert Rohde wrote:
Have you discussed software requirements with developers?
I'm not sure the new SecurePoll software is yet set up to allow for preferential voting (either on the input side or the tallying side).
Also, we had a number of problems with tallying [1]. Some of which was a result of essentially overloading the software with 17000 votes, but even if you avoid that issue (for example by having stricter suffrage requirements), there are still some things to look out for. Which reminds me that I still need to go file some Bug reports...
August is plenty of lead time to address these issues, but they shouldn't be kept to the last minute.
-Robert Rohde
[1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/licom-l/2009-May/000245.html
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Hoi, The numbers do not read that well. Try this in stead.. http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Temp Thanks, GerardM
2009/5/27 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
Hoi,SecurePoll is being localised at translatewiki.net. At this moment there are 35 languages ready for this vote and for 65 languages there is some localisation. Please check out if your community will be enabled by the software to vote. Thanks, GerardM
ar العربية 100.00% 0.00% be-tarask Беларуская (тарашкевіца) 100.00% 0.00% bs Bosanski 100.00% 0.00% cs Česky 100.00% 0.00% cy Cymraeg 100.00% 0.00% de Deutsch 100.00% 0.00% dsb Dolnoserbski 100.00% 0.00% en English 100.00% 0.00% fr Français 100.00% 0.00% gl Galego 100.00% 0.00% gsw Alemannisch 100.00% 0.00% he עברית 100.00% 0.00% hsb Hornjoserbsce 100.00% 0.00% ia Interlingua 100.00% 0.00% id Bahasa Indonesia 100.00% 0.00% ja 日本語 100.00% 0.00% ko 한국어 100.00% 0.00% ksh Ripoarisch 100.00% 0.00% nds Plattdüütsch 100.00% 0.00% nl Nederlands 100.00% 0.00% no Norsk (bokmål) 100.00% 0.00% oc Occitan 100.00% 0.00% pap Papiamentu 100.00% 0.00% pl Polski 100.00% 0.00% pt Português 100.00% 0.00% pt-br Português do Brasil 100.00% 0.00% ru Русский 100.00% 0.00% sah Саха тыла 100.00% 0.00% sk Slovenčina 100.00% 0.00% tl Tagalog 100.00% 0.00% tr Türkçe 100.00% 0.00% vi Tiếng Việt 100.00% 0.00% yue 粵語 100.00% 0.00% zh-hans 中文(简体) 100.00% 0.00% zh-hant 中文(繁體) 100.00% 0.00% el Ελληνικά 97.70% 0.00% lb Lëtzebuergesch 93.10% 0.00% li Limburgs 91.95% 0.00% vec Vèneto 86.21% 0.00% ca Català 83.91% 0.00% hu Magyar 75.86% 0.00% it Italiano 75.86% 0.00% eo Esperanto 73.56% 0.00% es Español 73.56% 0.00% sv Svenska 67.82% 0.00% ms Bahasa Melayu 59.77% 0.00% da Dansk 57.47% 2.30% nn Norsk (nynorsk) 57.47% 0.00% fa فارسی 27.59% 0.00% fi Suomi 27.59% 0.00% qqq Message documentation 27.59% 0.00% et Eesti 26.44% 1.15% de-formal Deutsch (Sie-Form) 19.54% 0.00% bg Български 17.24% 0.00% th ไทย 16.09% 0.00% ur اردو 12.64% 1.15% te తలుగు 11.49% 0.00% za Vahcuengh 11.49% 0.00% vep Vepsan kel' 10.34% 0.00% mk Македонски 4.60% 0.00% roa-tara Tarandíne 4.60% 0.00% ga Gaeilge 3.45% 0.00% nds-nl Nedersaksisch 3.45% 0.00% sr-ec ћирилица 1.15% 0.00% zh-hk 中文(香港) 1.15% 0.00% 2009/5/27 philippe philippe.wiki@gmail.com
My understanding is that SecurePoll can handle the type of vote we're
dealing with, but I'll certainly double-check based on your comments. Thanks for the heads-up.
philippe philippe.wiki@gmail.com Administrator, OTRS Volunteer
[[en:User:Philippe]]
On May 27, 2009, at 12:16 PM, Robert Rohde wrote:
Have you discussed software requirements with developers?
I'm not sure the new SecurePoll software is yet set up to allow for preferential voting (either on the input side or the tallying side).
Also, we had a number of problems with tallying [1]. Some of which was a result of essentially overloading the software with 17000 votes, but even if you avoid that issue (for example by having stricter suffrage requirements), there are still some things to look out for. Which reminds me that I still need to go file some Bug reports...
August is plenty of lead time to address these issues, but they shouldn't be kept to the last minute.
-Robert Rohde
[1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/licom-l/2009-May/000245.html
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