Hello,
Casey Brown a écrit :
Is your point that we should remove all "fair use images", causing the articles to be without an image making someone donate a free one?
Cbrown1023
Close I would suggest replaceing them with this (click the image):
Great!
But better still, propose to upload the image to Commons. ;o)
Regards,
Yann
On 2/26/07, Yann Forget yann@forget-me.net wrote:
Hello,
Casey Brown a écrit :
Is your point that we should remove all "fair use images", causing the articles to be without an image making someone donate a free one?
Cbrown1023
Close I would suggest replaceing them with this (click the image):
Great!
But better still, propose to upload the image to Commons. ;o)
Regards,
Yann
Untill we get some idea how clean the image stream will be I don't think that is a good idea (should be noted that no image has been upload through the system yet as far as I know).
I personally have pictures of many Thai moviestars, comedians and singers (I perform as a comedian almost everyday myself and meet them, live in tv-shows and when I play in movies), and it would be easy for me to make pictures on request (especially of all Thai comedians) as I know where to find many of them. But what makes me hesitating from uploading to commons is a couple of things ....
1) Non Thai people will not know them so they will probably be deleted from commons in no time, it would take time for the Thai and other communities to write articles on them as info on them is scarce and in English virtually non existing. (of most I wouldn't even be able to give their names, I know they are on tv regularly though) 2) I have seen people "upgrade" pictures resulting in horrible colours on paintings and other pictures. Usually this means imho pictures get maimed. 3) I do not want these pictures to be used commercially (although I could solve this by uploading low quality small pictures)
I also have pictures of Indian moviestars: Dharmendra Deol, Bobby Deol , Sunny Deol, Shilpa Shetty and a lot of others with whom I played in the movie Apne. But the above reason keeps me from uploading to commons. I feel that many people have pictures of stars but they hesitate to upload them for some of the same reasons.
Waerth
On 2/26/07, Walter van Kalken walter@vankalken.net wrote:
- Non Thai people will not know them so they will probably be deleted
from commons in no time, it would take time for the Thai and other communities to write articles on them as info on them is scarce and in English virtually non existing. (of most I wouldn't even be able to give their names, I know they are on tv regularly though)
Clearly identify what they are on the image page and they should not be deleted. Let me know if you have any problems. I'd be glad to undelete such images for you and smack whoever deleted them with a large fish.
- I have seen people "upgrade" pictures resulting in horrible colours
on paintings and other pictures. Usually this means imho pictures get maimed.
This happens, yes. I've also seen people 'enhance' images turning them into outright fabrications.. we solve this by more understanding and awareness in our community.. not by refusing to participate.
- I do not want these pictures to be used commercially (although I
could solve this by uploading low quality small pictures)
Uploading lower resolution images is always an option, but why do you care? If someone wants to pay another person for a free images, that is their decision. I think it's more useful to think about "commercial use" in terms of someones ability to choose to pay someone than in terms of someones ability to get paid. This is because, in a free society, the price and terms of goods with zero marginal cost are ultimately determined by the buyers not the sellers.
I also have pictures of Indian moviestars: Dharmendra Deol, Bobby Deol , Sunny Deol, Shilpa Shetty and a lot of others with whom I played in the movie Apne. But the above reason keeps me from uploading to commons. I feel that many people have pictures of stars but they hesitate to upload them for some of the same reasons.
We'll lets figure this out. We'd love to have more useful images.
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