Hello,
Following is a summary of the 2008 board elections for the week (and a half) of May 25 to June 04. For detailed information on the elections, see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008/en.
==Timeline== * Voting is open from June 01–21 at 23:59 (UTC). * Email notification will be sent later this week (see "Email notification" below). * Eligible voters can ask questions to candidates on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008/Candidates/Questions.
==Rule change== Incompletely-translated candidate pages will be published. These were originally not allowed due to concerns about biasing voters for the candidates whose presentations were readable in the voter's language, but removed because a majority of the candidate pages were incomplete.
==Email notification== The committee will send official email notification to eligible voters later this week. Voters will receive notification in the language of the project they are most active on (excluding multilingual projects like Commons) and English (in case of error). If a translation is not available, it will be sent in English. Users can opt out of the notification on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_nomail_list until a better way is developed.
==Technical problems== Several technical issues were discovered and fixed before and in the first days of voting. * Users on many wikis were seeing the older 2006 and 2007 voting interfaces. This was caused by locally-translated boardvote messages, and was fixed by global deletion by Az1568, Cbrown1023, and Pathoschild a few days before voting opened. A later recurrence of the problem was fixed by deleting leftover boardvote messages on the voting wiki.
* Users were unable to vote and given a error saying "Your Wikimedia user ID could not be determined". This was caused by a communication error between Wikimedia and the board election server, and was fixed by Tim Starling a few hours after the elections started.
* The English interface was shown to all users, regardless of their preferred language. This was caused by the boardvote wiki not setting the language when it was received from Wikimedia. This was fixed by Tim Starling a few hours after it was reported.
* Users from he-Wikipedia and nl-Wikipedia were unable to vote because they blocked 127.0.0.1 (localhost), from which the script used to determine eligibility was run. This caused the script to mark most users from those wikis as indefinitely blocked, and thus ineligible. The IP address was unblocked and the voter list manually corrected.
==Translation== We currently have 42 translations. Due to the links in the boardvote message delete reasons on many wikis (see "Technical problems" above), the number of languages covered increased by 37.5%. If you'd like to help, please see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008/Translation.
Translations by percentage completed (total size of complete pages / total size of all pages): * 100: ca, cs, de, el, en, es, fi, fr, id, it, ja, oc, pl, pt, ru, sr, zh (hans, hant, yue); * 30+: ar, be-x-old, eo, fa, ko, nb, nl, sv, uk; * 10+: af, gl, he; * 1+: hr, ro, eu, ksh; * 0: hu, kk (arab, cyrl, latn), lb, ml, ms.
==See also== * detailed information: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008/en * ask a question: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Board_elections/2008 * previous reports: - April 26 - May 3: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/29567 - May 3-10: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/29783 - May 10-18: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/30134 - May 18-25: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/30323
Hoi, Language localisation is best done at Betawiki. This is proven again because of the problems of messages that had been localised locally and did not show the latest interface.. I do recommend re-running the procedure of cleaning out the local translations once the election has finished..
It is actually best when only the project specific localisations remain on the local wikis. All the others are potentially not as good as what is available at Betawiki. When people argue that they have more messages localised in their wiki, we are quite happy to import them into Betawiki.. however, there is sadly no practice of deleting the local content afterwards ... Thanks, GerardM
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Jesse Plamondon-Willard < pathoschild@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
Following is a summary of the 2008 board elections for the week (and a half) of May 25 to June 04. For detailed information on the elections, see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008/en.
==Timeline==
- Voting is open from June 01–21 at 23:59 (UTC).
- Email notification will be sent later this week (see "Email
notification" below).
- Eligible voters can ask questions to candidates on
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008/Candidates/Questions
.
==Rule change== Incompletely-translated candidate pages will be published. These were originally not allowed due to concerns about biasing voters for the candidates whose presentations were readable in the voter's language, but removed because a majority of the candidate pages were incomplete.
==Email notification== The committee will send official email notification to eligible voters later this week. Voters will receive notification in the language of the project they are most active on (excluding multilingual projects like Commons) and English (in case of error). If a translation is not available, it will be sent in English. Users can opt out of the notification on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_nomail_list until a better way is developed.
==Technical problems== Several technical issues were discovered and fixed before and in the first days of voting.
- Users on many wikis were seeing the older 2006 and 2007 voting
interfaces. This was caused by locally-translated boardvote messages, and was fixed by global deletion by Az1568, Cbrown1023, and Pathoschild a few days before voting opened. A later recurrence of the problem was fixed by deleting leftover boardvote messages on the voting wiki.
- Users were unable to vote and given a error saying "Your Wikimedia
user ID could not be determined". This was caused by a communication error between Wikimedia and the board election server, and was fixed by Tim Starling a few hours after the elections started.
- The English interface was shown to all users, regardless of their
preferred language. This was caused by the boardvote wiki not setting the language when it was received from Wikimedia. This was fixed by Tim Starling a few hours after it was reported.
- Users from he-Wikipedia and nl-Wikipedia were unable to vote because
they blocked 127.0.0.1 (localhost), from which the script used to determine eligibility was run. This caused the script to mark most users from those wikis as indefinitely blocked, and thus ineligible. The IP address was unblocked and the voter list manually corrected.
==Translation== We currently have 42 translations. Due to the links in the boardvote message delete reasons on many wikis (see "Technical problems" above), the number of languages covered increased by 37.5%. If you'd like to help, please see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008/Translation.
Translations by percentage completed (total size of complete pages / total size of all pages):
- 100: ca, cs, de, el, en, es, fi, fr, id, it, ja, oc, pl, pt, ru, sr,
zh (hans, hant, yue);
- 30+: ar, be-x-old, eo, fa, ko, nb, nl, sv, uk;
- 10+: af, gl, he;
- 1+: hr, ro, eu, ksh;
- 0: hu, kk (arab, cyrl, latn), lb, ml, ms.
==See also==
- detailed information: <
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008/en%3E
- ask a question: <
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Board_elections/2008%3E
- previous reports:
- April 26 - May 3:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/29567
- May 10-18: <
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/30134%3E
- May 18-25: <
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/30323%3E
-- Yours cordially, Jesse Plamondon-Willard (Pathoschild)
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Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Language localisation is best done at Betawiki.
The old boardvote messages predated Betawiki, which is why we deleted them. All current localization is on Betawiki.
Hoi, Happy to learn that there is no localisation happening outside of Betawiki on this one... however, are you sure ??
The notion that messages that are the same on Betawiki and a local message should be deleted locally is something that would make a big difference once the messages are changed. It would be really cool first to have all these messages deleted and then analyse the messages that are not the same. Betawiki has been implementing different kinds of language support in the last few months.. It is unlikely that the local messages have taken up these changes.. The deletion of the messages that are not the same cannot be done automatically as this would also delete messages that have a project content. Thanks, GerardM
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Jesse Plamondon-Willard < pathoschild@gmail.com> wrote:
Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Language localisation is best done at Betawiki.
The old boardvote messages predated Betawiki, which is why we deleted them. All current localization is on Betawiki.
-- Yours cordially, Jesse Plamondon-Willard (Pathoschild)
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Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
The notion that messages that are the same on Betawiki and a local message should be deleted locally is something that would make a big difference once the messages are changed. It would be really cool first to have all these messages deleted and then analyse the messages that are not the same.
You should probably discuss that with the Betawiki people, not the election committee. In this case we already knew that all boardvote messages were obsolete.
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