Hi all,
I’m excited to share with you our FY1819 Fundraising Report https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/2018-19_Report. This report is an opportunity to provide insight into our revenue model and the strategy that goes into creating an impactful fundraising campaign. A sincere thank you to the millions of donors in nearly 30 countries who support our mission.
I'd also like to thank everyone who contributed and collaborated on this document: Online Fundraising, Major Gifts & Endowment, Fundraising Operations, Donor Services, Fundraising Tech, Legal, Communications, Finance and more! Special thanks to Thea Skaff for once again project managing this entire effort.
We welcome your feedback and questions on the talk page. Thank you, Pats
Hi Patricia,
thanks for the report! Is it possible to get a country-by-country breakdown of the donations as well?
Kind regards, Philip
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 01:25, Patricia Pena ppena@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi all,
I’m excited to share with you our FY1819 Fundraising Report https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/2018-19_Report. This report is an opportunity to provide insight into our revenue model and the strategy that goes into creating an impactful fundraising campaign. A sincere thank you to the millions of donors in nearly 30 countries who support our mission.
I'd also like to thank everyone who contributed and collaborated on this document: Online Fundraising, Major Gifts & Endowment, Fundraising Operations, Donor Services, Fundraising Tech, Legal, Communications, Finance and more! Special thanks to Thea Skaff for once again project managing this entire effort.
We welcome your feedback and questions on the talk page. Thank you, Pats -- *Pats Pena (she/her) * Director, Online Fundraising I Wikimedia Foundation 1 Montgomery Street I San Francisco, CA 94104 ppena@wikimedia.org I +1 (415) 816 3349
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Hi Philip,
We do not publish country-level fundraising numbers. My colleague Stephen discussed why on this list a few years back, so rather than paraphrasing his previous email I'll just provide a link to it: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-November/085576.html
Best, Chuck
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On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:05 AM Philip Kopetzky philip.kopetzky@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Patricia,
thanks for the report! Is it possible to get a country-by-country breakdown of the donations as well?
Kind regards, Philip
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 01:25, Patricia Pena ppena@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi all,
I’m excited to share with you our FY1819 Fundraising Report https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/2018-19_Report. This
report
is an opportunity to provide insight into our revenue model and the strategy that goes into creating an impactful fundraising campaign. A sincere thank you to the millions of donors in nearly 30 countries who support our mission.
I'd also like to thank everyone who contributed and collaborated on this document: Online Fundraising, Major Gifts & Endowment, Fundraising Operations, Donor Services, Fundraising Tech, Legal, Communications, Finance and more! Special thanks to Thea Skaff for once again project managing this entire effort.
We welcome your feedback and questions on the talk page. Thank you, Pats -- *Pats Pena (she/her) * Director, Online Fundraising I Wikimedia Foundation 1 Montgomery Street I San Francisco, CA 94104 ppena@wikimedia.org I +1 (415) 816 3349
*Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in
the
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Hi Chuck,
The reasons the question keeps getting asked is because it was never really answered in the first place.
The only good reason I can think of for not publishing country-level data is that there are some countries where that could create risks to the WMF or individuals because they're places where giving donations to a US nonprofit is either illegal or politically risky.
However that doesn't apply to most countries, so why not publish the data for most of the world?
Chris
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:34 AM Chuck Roslof croslof@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Philip,
We do not publish country-level fundraising numbers. My colleague Stephen discussed why on this list a few years back, so rather than paraphrasing his previous email I'll just provide a link to it: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-November/085576.html
Best, Chuck
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On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:05 AM Philip Kopetzky philip.kopetzky@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Patricia,
thanks for the report! Is it possible to get a country-by-country
breakdown
of the donations as well?
Kind regards, Philip
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 01:25, Patricia Pena ppena@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi all,
I’m excited to share with you our FY1819 Fundraising Report https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/2018-19_Report. This
report
is an opportunity to provide insight into our revenue model and the strategy that goes into creating an impactful fundraising campaign. A sincere thank you to the millions of donors in nearly 30 countries who support our mission.
I'd also like to thank everyone who contributed and collaborated on
this
document: Online Fundraising, Major Gifts & Endowment, Fundraising Operations, Donor Services, Fundraising Tech, Legal, Communications, Finance and more! Special thanks to Thea Skaff for once again project managing this entire effort.
We welcome your feedback and questions on the talk page. Thank you, Pats -- *Pats Pena (she/her) * Director, Online Fundraising I Wikimedia Foundation 1 Montgomery Street I San Francisco, CA 94104 ppena@wikimedia.org I +1 (415) 816 3349
*Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in
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I agree with Chris. Furthermore: Wikimedia Nederland, like all chapters, puts a lot of effort in raising awareness of and support for the Wikimedia projects. I would really like to know if these efforts 'pay off'.
Sandra Rientjes Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland
tel. (+31) (0)30 3200238 (ma, di, do) mob. (+31) (0)6 31786379 (wo, vrij)
www.wikimedia.nl
Mariaplaats 3 3511 LH Utrecht
Op do 3 okt. 2019 om 09:13 schreef Chris Keating <chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com
:
Hi Chuck,
The reasons the question keeps getting asked is because it was never really answered in the first place.
The only good reason I can think of for not publishing country-level data is that there are some countries where that could create risks to the WMF or individuals because they're places where giving donations to a US nonprofit is either illegal or politically risky.
However that doesn't apply to most countries, so why not publish the data for most of the world?
Chris
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:34 AM Chuck Roslof croslof@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Philip,
We do not publish country-level fundraising numbers. My colleague Stephen discussed why on this list a few years back, so rather than paraphrasing his previous email I'll just provide a link to it:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-November/085576.html
Best, Chuck
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see
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On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:05 AM Philip Kopetzky <
philip.kopetzky@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Patricia,
thanks for the report! Is it possible to get a country-by-country
breakdown
of the donations as well?
Kind regards, Philip
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 01:25, Patricia Pena ppena@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hi all,
I’m excited to share with you our FY1819 Fundraising Report https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/2018-19_Report. This
report
is an opportunity to provide insight into our revenue model and the strategy that goes into creating an impactful fundraising campaign. A sincere thank you to the millions of donors in nearly 30 countries
who
support our mission.
I'd also like to thank everyone who contributed and collaborated on
this
document: Online Fundraising, Major Gifts & Endowment, Fundraising Operations, Donor Services, Fundraising Tech, Legal, Communications, Finance and more! Special thanks to Thea Skaff for once again project managing this entire effort.
We welcome your feedback and questions on the talk page. Thank you, Pats -- *Pats Pena (she/her) * Director, Online Fundraising I Wikimedia Foundation 1 Montgomery Street I San Francisco, CA 94104 ppena@wikimedia.org I +1 (415) 816 3349
*Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share
in
the
sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. Donate. https://donate.wikimedia.org/*
Please Note: If I am emailing after hours or on the weekend, it's
because
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respond
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Thanks Chuck for digging out that old email, it does explain why this isn't done for every country. Chris and Sandra have a point though, because this can't be a legal issue for most European countries for example. In return, the local organisations and communities would benefit from an added layer of feedback based on their work.
Furthermore, how and how much we fundraise will be one of the important talking points when implementing the recommendations, especially to set a benchmark to evaluate if involving local organisations in the fundraising process actually works or not.
Best, Philip
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 09:38, Sandra Rientjes - Wikimedia Nederland < rientjes@wikimedia.nl> wrote:
I agree with Chris. Furthermore: Wikimedia Nederland, like all chapters, puts a lot of effort in raising awareness of and support for the Wikimedia projects. I would really like to know if these efforts 'pay off'.
Sandra Rientjes Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland
tel. (+31) (0)30 3200238 (ma, di, do) mob. (+31) (0)6 31786379 (wo, vrij)
www.wikimedia.nl
Mariaplaats 3 3511 LH Utrecht
Op do 3 okt. 2019 om 09:13 schreef Chris Keating < chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com
:
Hi Chuck,
The reasons the question keeps getting asked is because it was never
really
answered in the first place.
The only good reason I can think of for not publishing country-level data is that there are some countries where that could create risks to the WMF or individuals because they're places where giving donations to a US nonprofit is either illegal or politically risky.
However that doesn't apply to most countries, so why not publish the data for most of the world?
Chris
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:34 AM Chuck Roslof croslof@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hi Philip,
We do not publish country-level fundraising numbers. My colleague
Stephen
discussed why on this list a few years back, so rather than
paraphrasing
his previous email I'll just provide a link to it:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-November/085576.html
Best, Chuck
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see
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On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:05 AM Philip Kopetzky <
philip.kopetzky@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Patricia,
thanks for the report! Is it possible to get a country-by-country
breakdown
of the donations as well?
Kind regards, Philip
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 01:25, Patricia Pena ppena@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hi all,
I’m excited to share with you our FY1819 Fundraising Report https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/2018-19_Report. This
report
is an opportunity to provide insight into our revenue model and the strategy that goes into creating an impactful fundraising
campaign. A
sincere thank you to the millions of donors in nearly 30 countries
who
support our mission.
I'd also like to thank everyone who contributed and collaborated on
this
document: Online Fundraising, Major Gifts & Endowment, Fundraising Operations, Donor Services, Fundraising Tech, Legal,
Communications,
Finance and more! Special thanks to Thea Skaff for once again
project
managing this entire effort.
We welcome your feedback and questions on the talk page. Thank you, Pats -- *Pats Pena (she/her) * Director, Online Fundraising I Wikimedia Foundation 1 Montgomery Street I San Francisco, CA 94104 ppena@wikimedia.org I +1 (415) 816 3349
*Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share
in
the
sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. Donate. https://donate.wikimedia.org/*
Please Note: If I am emailing after hours or on the weekend, it's
because
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respond
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I
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Hi folks,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts about how this information could be useful for local affiliates and communities. We'll discuss internally to see if we might be able to share more information in the future in order to achieve those benefits in ways that don't raise legal concerns or create excessive overhead for our fundraising team. We're entering into the busiest time of the year for online fundraising, though, so it'll be at least a few months before we are able to address the question internally.
- Chuck
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On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 2:27 AM Philip Kopetzky philip.kopetzky@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Chuck for digging out that old email, it does explain why this isn't done for every country. Chris and Sandra have a point though, because this can't be a legal issue for most European countries for example. In return, the local organisations and communities would benefit from an added layer of feedback based on their work.
Furthermore, how and how much we fundraise will be one of the important talking points when implementing the recommendations, especially to set a benchmark to evaluate if involving local organisations in the fundraising process actually works or not.
Best, Philip
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 09:38, Sandra Rientjes - Wikimedia Nederland < rientjes@wikimedia.nl> wrote:
I agree with Chris. Furthermore: Wikimedia Nederland, like all chapters, puts a lot of effort in raising awareness of and support for the Wikimedia projects. I would really like to know if these efforts 'pay off'.
Sandra Rientjes Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland
tel. (+31) (0)30 3200238 (ma, di, do) mob. (+31) (0)6 31786379 (wo, vrij)
www.wikimedia.nl
Mariaplaats 3 3511 LH Utrecht
Op do 3 okt. 2019 om 09:13 schreef Chris Keating < chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com
:
Hi Chuck,
The reasons the question keeps getting asked is because it was never
really
answered in the first place.
The only good reason I can think of for not publishing country-level
data
is that there are some countries where that could create risks to the
WMF
or individuals because they're places where giving donations to a US nonprofit is either illegal or politically risky.
However that doesn't apply to most countries, so why not publish the
data
for most of the world?
Chris
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:34 AM Chuck Roslof croslof@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hi Philip,
We do not publish country-level fundraising numbers. My colleague
Stephen
discussed why on this list a few years back, so rather than
paraphrasing
his previous email I'll just provide a link to it:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-November/085576.html
Best, Chuck
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NOTICE: This message might have confidential or legally privileged information in it. If you have received this message by accident,
please
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advice
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please
see
our legal disclaimer https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer.
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:05 AM Philip Kopetzky <
philip.kopetzky@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Patricia,
thanks for the report! Is it possible to get a country-by-country
breakdown
of the donations as well?
Kind regards, Philip
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 01:25, Patricia Pena ppena@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hi all,
I’m excited to share with you our FY1819 Fundraising Report https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/2018-19_Report.
This
report
is an opportunity to provide insight into our revenue model and
the
strategy that goes into creating an impactful fundraising
campaign. A
sincere thank you to the millions of donors in nearly 30
countries
who
support our mission.
I'd also like to thank everyone who contributed and collaborated
on
this
document: Online Fundraising, Major Gifts & Endowment,
Fundraising
Operations, Donor Services, Fundraising Tech, Legal,
Communications,
Finance and more! Special thanks to Thea Skaff for once again
project
managing this entire effort.
We welcome your feedback and questions on the talk page. Thank you, Pats -- *Pats Pena (she/her) * Director, Online Fundraising I Wikimedia Foundation 1 Montgomery Street I San Francisco, CA 94104 ppena@wikimedia.org I +1 (415) 816 3349
*Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely
share
in
the
sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. Donate. https://donate.wikimedia.org/*
Please Note: If I am emailing after hours or on the weekend, it's
because
Wikimedia allows me an awesome flexible schedule. Please do not
respond
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course
I
am
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Hi Chuck,
since this is hopefully a less busy season of the year, have the internal discussions yielded anything that might help in breaking these numbers down a little bit more? :-)
Best, Philip
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 03:59, Chuck Roslof croslof@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts about how this information could be useful for local affiliates and communities. We'll discuss internally to see if we might be able to share more information in the future in order to achieve those benefits in ways that don't raise legal concerns or create excessive overhead for our fundraising team. We're entering into the busiest time of the year for online fundraising, though, so it'll be at least a few months before we are able to address the question internally.
- Chuck
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On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 2:27 AM Philip Kopetzky philip.kopetzky@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Chuck for digging out that old email, it does explain why this
isn't
done for every country. Chris and Sandra have a point though, because this can't be a legal issue for most European countries for example. In return, the local
organisations
and communities would benefit from an added layer of feedback based on their work.
Furthermore, how and how much we fundraise will be one of the important talking points when implementing the recommendations, especially to set a benchmark to evaluate if involving local organisations in the fundraising process actually works or not.
Best, Philip
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 09:38, Sandra Rientjes - Wikimedia Nederland < rientjes@wikimedia.nl> wrote:
I agree with Chris. Furthermore: Wikimedia Nederland, like all chapters, puts a lot of
effort
in raising awareness of and support for the Wikimedia projects. I
would
really like to know if these efforts 'pay off'.
Sandra Rientjes Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland
tel. (+31) (0)30 3200238 (ma, di, do) mob. (+31) (0)6 31786379 (wo, vrij)
www.wikimedia.nl
Mariaplaats 3 3511 LH Utrecht
Op do 3 okt. 2019 om 09:13 schreef Chris Keating < chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com
:
Hi Chuck,
The reasons the question keeps getting asked is because it was never
really
answered in the first place.
The only good reason I can think of for not publishing country-level
data
is that there are some countries where that could create risks to the
WMF
or individuals because they're places where giving donations to a US nonprofit is either illegal or politically risky.
However that doesn't apply to most countries, so why not publish the
data
for most of the world?
Chris
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:34 AM Chuck Roslof croslof@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hi Philip,
We do not publish country-level fundraising numbers. My colleague
Stephen
discussed why on this list a few years back, so rather than
paraphrasing
his previous email I'll just provide a link to it:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-November/085576.html
Best, Chuck
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On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:05 AM Philip Kopetzky <
philip.kopetzky@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Patricia,
thanks for the report! Is it possible to get a country-by-country
breakdown
of the donations as well?
Kind regards, Philip
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 01:25, Patricia Pena ppena@wikimedia.org
wrote:
> Hi all, > > I’m excited to share with you our FY1819 Fundraising Report > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/2018-19_Report.
This
report > is an opportunity to provide insight into our revenue model and
the
> strategy that goes into creating an impactful fundraising
campaign. A
> sincere thank you to the millions of donors in nearly 30
countries
who
> support our mission. > > I'd also like to thank everyone who contributed and
collaborated
on
this
> document: Online Fundraising, Major Gifts & Endowment,
Fundraising
> Operations, Donor Services, Fundraising Tech, Legal,
Communications,
> Finance and more! Special thanks to Thea Skaff for once again
project
> managing this entire effort. > > We welcome your feedback and questions on the talk page. > Thank you, > Pats > -- > *Pats Pena (she/her) * > Director, Online Fundraising I Wikimedia Foundation > 1 Montgomery Street I San Francisco, CA 94104 > ppena@wikimedia.org I +1 (415) 816 3349 > > > *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely
share
in
the > sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. Donate. > https://donate.wikimedia.org/* > > > Please Note: If I am emailing after hours or on the weekend,
it's
because
> Wikimedia allows me an awesome flexible schedule. Please do not
respond
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course
I
am
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On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 9:46 AM Philip Kopetzky philip.kopetzky@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Chuck,
since this is hopefully a less busy season of the year, have the internal discussions yielded anything that might help in breaking these numbers down a little bit more? :-)
Best, Philip
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 03:59, Chuck Roslof croslof@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts about how this information could be
useful
for local affiliates and communities. We'll discuss internally to see if
we
might be able to share more information in the future in order to achieve those benefits in ways that don't raise legal concerns or create
excessive
overhead for our fundraising team. We're entering into the busiest time
of
the year for online fundraising, though, so it'll be at least a few
months
before we are able to address the question internally.
- Chuck
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On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 2:27 AM Philip Kopetzky <
philip.kopetzky@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thanks Chuck for digging out that old email, it does explain why this
isn't
done for every country. Chris and Sandra have a point though, because this can't be a legal
issue
for most European countries for example. In return, the local
organisations
and communities would benefit from an added layer of feedback based on their work.
Furthermore, how and how much we fundraise will be one of the important talking points when implementing the recommendations, especially to
set a
benchmark to evaluate if involving local organisations in the
fundraising
process actually works or not.
Best, Philip
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 09:38, Sandra Rientjes - Wikimedia Nederland < rientjes@wikimedia.nl> wrote:
I agree with Chris. Furthermore: Wikimedia Nederland, like all chapters, puts a lot of
effort
in raising awareness of and support for the Wikimedia projects. I
would
really like to know if these efforts 'pay off'.
Sandra Rientjes Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland
tel. (+31) (0)30 3200238 (ma, di, do) mob. (+31) (0)6 31786379 (wo, vrij)
www.wikimedia.nl
Mariaplaats 3 3511 LH Utrecht
Op do 3 okt. 2019 om 09:13 schreef Chris Keating < chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com
:
Hi Chuck,
The reasons the question keeps getting asked is because it was
never
really
answered in the first place.
The only good reason I can think of for not publishing
country-level
data
is that there are some countries where that could create risks to
the
WMF
or individuals because they're places where giving donations to a
US
nonprofit is either illegal or politically risky.
However that doesn't apply to most countries, so why not publish
the
data
for most of the world?
Chris
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:34 AM Chuck Roslof <croslof@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hi Philip,
We do not publish country-level fundraising numbers. My colleague
Stephen
discussed why on this list a few years back, so rather than
paraphrasing
his previous email I'll just provide a link to it:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-November/085576.html
Best, Chuck
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On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:05 AM Philip Kopetzky <
philip.kopetzky@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Patricia, > > thanks for the report! Is it possible to get a
country-by-country
breakdown > of the donations as well? > > Kind regards, > Philip > > On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 01:25, Patricia Pena <
ppena@wikimedia.org>
wrote:
> > > Hi all, > > > > I’m excited to share with you our FY1819 Fundraising Report > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/2018-19_Report
.
This
> report > > is an opportunity to provide insight into our revenue model
and
the
> > strategy that goes into creating an impactful fundraising
campaign. A
> > sincere thank you to the millions of donors in nearly 30
countries
who
> > support our mission. > > > > I'd also like to thank everyone who contributed and
collaborated
on
this > > document: Online Fundraising, Major Gifts & Endowment,
Fundraising
> > Operations, Donor Services, Fundraising Tech, Legal,
Communications,
> > Finance and more! Special thanks to Thea Skaff for once again
project
> > managing this entire effort. > > > > We welcome your feedback and questions on the talk page. > > Thank you, > > Pats > > -- > > *Pats Pena (she/her) * > > Director, Online Fundraising I Wikimedia Foundation > > 1 Montgomery Street I San Francisco, CA 94104 > > ppena@wikimedia.org I +1 (415) 816 3349 > > > > > > *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely
share
in
> the > > sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. Donate. > > https://donate.wikimedia.org/* > > > > > > Please Note: If I am emailing after hours or on the weekend,
it's
because > > Wikimedia allows me an awesome flexible schedule. Please do
not
respond
> > until reasonable business hours in your timezone, unless of
course
I
am
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