On 6 jun. 2015, at 17:25, Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi, just in case you have missed this thread in Wikimedia where I mentioned you, and now SJ asks.
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Quim writes:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96378 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96378 (33 hackathon events) Experiment with video.js was basically a one-person-three-day [TheDJ
special]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100106 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100106
Very neat. Does this work with popcorn?
I guess with popcorn, you mean popcornjs.org http://popcornjs.org/. In that case, no, it works with https://videojs.com https://videojs.com/ The point was to show how easy it would be to replace what we have now, with something better and I just wanted to get something of the ground and demonstrable.
I picked the most popular/active github project, and that seems to be videojs.com http://videojs.com/ at this moment in time. I did also consider popcornjs actually, but it seems more an experiment with temporal events, then focusing on being a good extensible player that everyone wants to use (no offense to that team, but that was the first impression).
Anyway, both of them would still require significant time to get it to production. But both of them will be easier to maintain than (fixing) what we have right now.
Ideally, I think we will want to make sure that players can be used interchangeably, just based on the the information in the DOM. I’m looking at defining some extensions hooks, so that we can decouple players from the TimedMediaHandler extension.
And we will need brion’s ogv.js https://brionv.com/misc/ogv.js/demo/ https://brionv.com/misc/ogv.js/demo/ work to support browsers without OGV/WebM support.
DJ
On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman wrote: [re: experiments using video.js to improve UI of TimedMediaHandler]
And we will need brion’s ogv.js https://brionv.com/misc/ogv.js/demo/ work to support browsers without OGV/WebM support.
A couple updates on that front:
1) It looks like it should be easy to integrate ogv.js into video.js as a player tech.
2) I have an early version of WebM decoding in JavaScript https://brionv.com/log/2015/06/07/im-in-ur-javascript-decoding-ur-webm/ working! It's much slower than Ogg but has higher video quality when there's CPU available for it, as on a fast desktop/laptop that's running Safari or IE without WebM drivers natively installed.
3) I've also found a combination of free-but-crappy codec options that works in iOS natively: AVI with Motion-JPEG video and uncompressed audio https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101716! To keep the bitrate sane we'll have to turn quality down, but 5fps and scratchy audio is often better than nothing. This will work at times when ogv.js can't be used, such as the embedded web browsers in iPhone apps that haven't updated to Apple's latest embedding APIs.
-- brion
This is really cool indeed and I am told (by the little birdie) that there is more we can do. Thank you, team! Awesome!!!
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Brion Vibber bvibber@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman wrote: [re: experiments using video.js to improve UI of TimedMediaHandler]
And we will need brion’s ogv.js https://brionv.com/misc/ogv.js/demo/
work
to support browsers without OGV/WebM support.
A couple updates on that front:
- It looks like it should be easy to integrate ogv.js into video.js as a
player tech.
- I have an early version of WebM decoding in JavaScript
https://brionv.com/log/2015/06/07/im-in-ur-javascript-decoding-ur-webm/ working! It's much slower than Ogg but has higher video quality when there's CPU available for it, as on a fast desktop/laptop that's running Safari or IE without WebM drivers natively installed.
- I've also found a combination of free-but-crappy codec options that
works in iOS natively: AVI with Motion-JPEG video and uncompressed audio https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101716! To keep the bitrate sane we'll have to turn quality down, but 5fps and scratchy audio is often better than nothing. This will work at times when ogv.js can't be used, such as the embedded web browsers in iPhone apps that haven't updated to Apple's latest embedding APIs.
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Perhaps a bit early of the roundup of the Wikidata Menu Challenge, but I think it is cool so I'll share it already. Some stats (thanks to André Costa for collecting it) on the 300 items in the challenge:
Month of the challenge (and a few days afterwards) (2015-05-08 - 2015-06-08): { "users": 183, "bytes_added": 1832120, "edits": 9057 }
To be compared with the month before the challenge: (2015-04-04 - 2015-05-01) { "users": 132, "bytes_added": 71879, "edits": 493 }
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2015-06-10 22:15 GMT+02:00 Lila Tretikov lila@wikimedia.org:
This is really cool indeed and I am told (by the little birdie) that there is more we can do. Thank you, team! Awesome!!!
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Brion Vibber bvibber@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman wrote: [re: experiments using video.js to improve UI of TimedMediaHandler]
And we will need brion’s ogv.js https://brionv.com/misc/ogv.js/demo/
work
to support browsers without OGV/WebM support.
A couple updates on that front:
- It looks like it should be easy to integrate ogv.js into video.js as a
player tech.
- I have an early version of WebM decoding in JavaScript
<https://brionv.com/log/2015/06/07/im-in-ur-javascript-decoding-ur-webm/
working! It's much slower than Ogg but has higher video quality when there's CPU available for it, as on a fast desktop/laptop that's running Safari or IE without WebM drivers natively installed.
- I've also found a combination of free-but-crappy codec options that
works in iOS natively: AVI with Motion-JPEG video and uncompressed audio https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101716! To keep the bitrate sane we'll have to turn quality down, but 5fps and scratchy audio is often better
than
nothing. This will work at times when ogv.js can't be used, such as the embedded web browsers in iPhone apps that haven't updated to Apple's
latest
embedding APIs.
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Well, let's not forget the big picture.
For all the bickering and squabbling it might have entailed, for all the stumbles that might have happened in the process, the lot of us have created the largest and probably most significant educational work in the history of the world. And we've done it in a not for profit and freely shared fashion.
I think that's damned cool and I think it's something to be very proud of.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se wrote:
Perhaps a bit early of the roundup of the Wikidata Menu Challenge, but I think it is cool so I'll share it already. Some stats (thanks to André Costa for collecting it) on the 300 items in the challenge:
Month of the challenge (and a few days afterwards) (2015-05-08 - 2015-06-08): { "users": 183, "bytes_added": 1832120, "edits": 9057 }
To be compared with the month before the challenge: (2015-04-04 - 2015-05-01) { "users": 132, "bytes_added": 71879, "edits": 493 }
*Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali*
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*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se
2015-06-10 22:15 GMT+02:00 Lila Tretikov lila@wikimedia.org:
This is really cool indeed and I am told (by the little birdie) that
there
is more we can do. Thank you, team! Awesome!!!
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Brion Vibber bvibber@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman wrote: [re: experiments using video.js to improve UI of TimedMediaHandler]
And we will need brion’s ogv.js https://brionv.com/misc/ogv.js/demo/
work
to support browsers without OGV/WebM support.
A couple updates on that front:
- It looks like it should be easy to integrate ogv.js into video.js
as a
player tech.
- I have an early version of WebM decoding in JavaScript
<
https://brionv.com/log/2015/06/07/im-in-ur-javascript-decoding-ur-webm/
working! It's much slower than Ogg but has higher video quality when there's CPU available for it, as on a fast desktop/laptop that's
running
Safari or IE without WebM drivers natively installed.
- I've also found a combination of free-but-crappy codec options that
works in iOS natively: AVI with Motion-JPEG video and uncompressed
audio
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101716! To keep the bitrate sane we'll have to turn quality down, but 5fps and scratchy audio is often better
than
nothing. This will work at times when ogv.js can't be used, such as the embedded web browsers in iPhone apps that haven't updated to Apple's
latest
embedding APIs.
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Todd, since you credit yourself as a collaborative creator of a world-historic educational work, what are some of the articles you have created or greatly contributed to? Or is it that you derive your credit from administrative work and blocking others, if so what are your most notable administrative achievements or are some of the bad Wikipedia participants you have blocked?
Trillium Corsage
10.06.2015, 21:54, "Todd Allen" <email clipped>:
Well, let's not forget the big picture.
For all the bickering and squabbling it might have entailed, for all the stumbles that might have happened in the process, the lot of us have created the largest and probably most significant educational work in the history of the world. And we've done it in a not for profit and freely shared fashion.
I think that's damned cool and I think it's something to be very proud of.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se wrote:
Perhaps a bit early of the roundup of the Wikidata Menu Challenge, but I think it is cool so I'll share it already. Some stats (thanks to André Costa for collecting it) on the 300 items in the challenge:
Month of the challenge (and a few days afterwards) (2015-05-08 - 2015-06-08): { "users": 183, "bytes_added": 1832120, "edits": 9057 }
To be compared with the month before the challenge: (2015-04-04 - 2015-05-01) { "users": 132, "bytes_added": 71879, "edits": 493 }
*Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali*
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*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se
2015-06-10 22:15 GMT+02:00 Lila Tretikov lila@wikimedia.org:
> This is really cool indeed and I am told (by the little birdie) that there > is more we can do. Thank you, team! Awesome!!! > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Brion Vibber bvibber@wikimedia.org > wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman wrote: > > [re: experiments using video.js to improve UI of TimedMediaHandler] > > > > > And we will need brion’s ogv.js https://brionv.com/misc/ogv.js/demo/ > > work > > > to support browsers without OGV/WebM support. > > > > > > > A couple updates on that front: > > > > 1) It looks like it should be easy to integrate ogv.js into video.js as a > > player tech. > > > > 2) I have an early version of WebM decoding in JavaScript > > < https://brionv.com/log/2015/06/07/im-in-ur-javascript-decoding-ur-webm/ > > > > working! It's much slower than Ogg but has higher video quality when > > there's CPU available for it, as on a fast desktop/laptop that's running > > Safari or IE without WebM drivers natively installed. > > > > 3) I've also found a combination of free-but-crappy codec options that > > works in iOS natively: AVI with Motion-JPEG video and uncompressed audio > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101716! To keep the bitrate sane > > we'll > > have to turn quality down, but 5fps and scratchy audio is often better > than > > nothing. This will work at times when ogv.js can't be used, such as the > > embedded web browsers in iPhone apps that haven't updated to Apple's > latest > > embedding APIs. > > > > -- brion > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Todd, is it perhaps this diff among yours (https://archive.is/MRUkZ) where you called for the keeping of an apparently explicit autofellatio image in a since-deleted autofellatio article that makes you think you're partially to share the credit for a world-historic educational work?
Note to all: the link provided doesn't contain a sexual image, though the image under discussion must be.
Trillium Corsage
11.06.2015, 19:31, "Trillium Corsage" trillium2014@yandex.com:
Todd, since you credit yourself as a collaborative creator of a world-historic educational work, what are some of the articles you have created or greatly contributed to? Or is it that you derive your credit from administrative work and blocking others, if so what are your most notable administrative achievements or are some of the bad Wikipedia participants you have blocked?
Trillium Corsage
10.06.2015, 21:54, "Todd Allen" <email clipped>:
Well, let's not forget the big picture.
For all the bickering and squabbling it might have entailed, for all the stumbles that might have happened in the process, the lot of us have created the largest and probably most significant educational work in the history of the world. And we've done it in a not for profit and freely shared fashion.
I think that's damned cool and I think it's something to be very proud of.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se wrote:
Perhaps a bit early of the roundup of the Wikidata Menu Challenge, but I think it is cool so I'll share it already. Some stats (thanks to André Costa for collecting it) on the 300 items in the challenge:
Month of the challenge (and a few days afterwards) (2015-05-08 - 2015-06-08): { "users": 183, "bytes_added": 1832120, "edits": 9057 }
To be compared with the month before the challenge: (2015-04-04 - 2015-05-01) { "users": 132, "bytes_added": 71879, "edits": 493 }
*Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali*
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2015-06-10 22:15 GMT+02:00 Lila Tretikov lila@wikimedia.org:
> This is really cool indeed and I am told (by the little birdie) that there > is more we can do. Thank you, team! Awesome!!! > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Brion Vibber bvibber@wikimedia.org > wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman wrote: > > [re: experiments using video.js to improve UI of TimedMediaHandler] > > > > > And we will need brion’s ogv.js https://brionv.com/misc/ogv.js/demo/ > > work > > > to support browsers without OGV/WebM support. > > > > > > > A couple updates on that front: > > > > 1) It looks like it should be easy to integrate ogv.js into video.js as a > > player tech. > > > > 2) I have an early version of WebM decoding in JavaScript > > < https://brionv.com/log/2015/06/07/im-in-ur-javascript-decoding-ur-webm/ > > > > working! It's much slower than Ogg but has higher video quality when > > there's CPU available for it, as on a fast desktop/laptop that's running > > Safari or IE without WebM drivers natively installed. > > > > 3) I've also found a combination of free-but-crappy codec options that > > works in iOS natively: AVI with Motion-JPEG video and uncompressed audio > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101716! To keep the bitrate sane > > we'll > > have to turn quality down, but 5fps and scratchy audio is often better > than > > nothing. This will work at times when ogv.js can't be used, such as the > > embedded web browsers in iPhone apps that haven't updated to Apple's > latest > > embedding APIs. > > > > -- brion > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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And the award for for the first negative comment on this thread that is designed to be "about things going right" goes to Trilliam. Congratulations on being the official "party pooper" of Wikimedia-l. There will be cake tomorrow.
To return to nice things, and in response to the previous message by A ntanana: I learned a few months ago that in the Ukrainian Wikipedia they don't give out "barnstars", the give out "cans of condensed milk"! Why? Because they're sweet :-) https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%...
And, please correct me if I'm wrong Antanana, but you also identify the "best newbie" each month on the Ukrainian Wikipedia and physically send a can of condensed milk to that person in the mail?! I think that's just the coolest, funnest, most unique way of celebrating new contributors I've heard of!
-Liam / Wittylama.
wittylama.com Peace, love & metadata
Oh, Liam, you are right :)
We award the "best newbie of the month" on Ukrainian Wikipedia and award him/her with a can of condensed milk via post [1] (we also award with a can of condensed milk the "best contributor of the month", and want to do it is a few smaller wikiprojects as well (Wikiquote, f.ex.))
For this we create the lists with all contributions (main namespace only) for all users per project per months [2] and look if the contributions are in line with the rules (no copyright violation, vandalism etc.). Then a message on the talk page with a picture of a can and after the winner gives us his/her postal address, we send him/her the can itself :) [3]
It is sweet. I can vouch for that :)
[1] https://ua.wikimedia.org/wiki/%D0%97%D0%B3%D1%83%D1%89%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%... [2] https://ua.wikimedia.org/wiki/%D0%97%D0%B3%D1%83%D1%89%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%... [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Zgushchivka_poshtoyu
Best regards, antanana ED of Wikimedia Ukraine
2015-06-11 22:04 GMT+03:00 Liam Wyatt liamwyatt@gmail.com:
And the award for for the first negative comment on this thread that is designed to be "about things going right" goes to Trilliam. Congratulations on being the official "party pooper" of Wikimedia-l. There will be cake tomorrow.
To return to nice things, and in response to the previous message by A ntanana: I learned a few months ago that in the Ukrainian Wikipedia they don't give out "barnstars", the give out "cans of condensed milk"! Why? Because they're sweet :-)
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%...
And, please correct me if I'm wrong Antanana, but you also identify the "best newbie" each month on the Ukrainian Wikipedia and physically send a can of condensed milk to that person in the mail?! I think that's just the coolest, funnest, most unique way of celebrating new contributors I've heard of!
-Liam / Wittylama.
wittylama.com Peace, love & metadata
That's such a wonderful, sweet project! :) It seems likely infeasible for bigger projects but as a way to build a strong small wiki community, I think it's amazing!
Kudos to you!
-Emily
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:35 PM, attolippip attolippip@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, Liam, you are right :)
We award the "best newbie of the month" on Ukrainian Wikipedia and award him/her with a can of condensed milk via post [1] (we also award with a can of condensed milk the "best contributor of the month", and want to do it is a few smaller wikiprojects as well (Wikiquote, f.ex.))
For this we create the lists with all contributions (main namespace only) for all users per project per months [2] and look if the contributions are in line with the rules (no copyright violation, vandalism etc.). Then a message on the talk page with a picture of a can and after the winner gives us his/her postal address, we send him/her the can itself :) [3]
It is sweet. I can vouch for that :)
[1]
https://ua.wikimedia.org/wiki/%D0%97%D0%B3%D1%83%D1%89%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%... [2]
https://ua.wikimedia.org/wiki/%D0%97%D0%B3%D1%83%D1%89%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%... [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Zgushchivka_poshtoyu
Best regards, antanana ED of Wikimedia Ukraine
2015-06-11 22:04 GMT+03:00 Liam Wyatt liamwyatt@gmail.com:
And the award for for the first negative comment on this thread that is designed to be "about things going right" goes to Trilliam. Congratulations on being the official "party pooper" of Wikimedia-l.
There
will be cake tomorrow.
To return to nice things, and in response to the previous message by A ntanana: I learned a few months ago that in the Ukrainian Wikipedia they don't
give
out "barnstars", the give out "cans of condensed milk"! Why? Because they're sweet :-)
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%...
And, please correct me if I'm wrong Antanana, but you also identify the "best newbie" each month on the Ukrainian Wikipedia and physically send a can of condensed milk to that person in the mail?! I think that's just
the
coolest, funnest, most unique way of celebrating new contributors I've heard of!
-Liam / Wittylama.
wittylama.com Peace, love & metadata
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TL;DR: the Italian Wikisource has been indexed by a digital library platform used by over 4500 libraries in Italy [1]. This means that over 3500 texts (proofread and/or validated) can be read by library patrons. Many libraries will add them to the catalog too (!).
Longer and librarianer explanation. Some knowledge of Wikisource is needed too :-) As an employee of MediaLibrary Online, I worked in these months to get all the metadata and index the texts from Italian Wikisource. A bit of perspective
* All the texts have been either proofread or validated. * They are not all whole books: we indexed the texts directly in namespace 0 (and not in the Index: namespace), in order to provide the user a better search experience and findability. This, in our opinion, is very important: we used the MediaWiki API to retrieve all the data, and some HTML scraping for the rest :-) * We link directly the EPUB generated by the awesome tool from Tpt, but also to the page in Wikisource. * We automatically generated the EPUB covers for every text which didn't have one. Ex: http://www.medialibrary.it/media/scheda.aspx?id=850275912
MediaLibraryOnline is a digital platform that provide Italian libraries with the possibility of lend digital resource, as ebook or audiobooks. It's not just "a portal on the Internet", but a service used and managed by single libraries for their uses. It also has an "Open" collection, freely accessible and downloadable for everyone (and not only the patrons of the libraries which have access to MediaLibrary).
I've been hired few months ago to develop such collection, and this is a major milestone for us (and for me :-). I'm expecially excited by the fact that now Wikisource ebooks "enter" in the collection of libraries, and often in their very catalog. I think it is a very good step forward for our project, and I'm eager to replicate this project with other Wikisources as well :-)
If needed, I can explain some details.
[1] http://www.medialibrary.it/media/ricerca.aspx?seltip=310&selarg=-1&k... wikisource&x=0&y=0&portalId=1
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Keilana keilanawiki@gmail.com wrote:
That's such a wonderful, sweet project! :) It seems likely infeasible for bigger projects but as a way to build a strong small wiki community, I think it's amazing!
Kudos to you!
-Emily
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:35 PM, attolippip attolippip@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, Liam, you are right :)
We award the "best newbie of the month" on Ukrainian Wikipedia and award him/her with a can of condensed milk via post [1] (we also award with a can of condensed milk the "best contributor of the month", and want to do it is a few smaller wikiprojects as well
(Wikiquote,
f.ex.))
For this we create the lists with all contributions (main namespace only) for all users per project per months [2] and look if the contributions
are
in line with the rules (no copyright violation, vandalism etc.). Then a message on the talk page with a picture of a can and after the winner
gives
us his/her postal address, we send him/her the can itself :) [3]
It is sweet. I can vouch for that :)
[1]
https://ua.wikimedia.org/wiki/%D0%97%D0%B3%D1%83%D1%89%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%...
[2]
https://ua.wikimedia.org/wiki/%D0%97%D0%B3%D1%83%D1%89%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%...
[3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Zgushchivka_poshtoyu
Best regards, antanana ED of Wikimedia Ukraine
2015-06-11 22:04 GMT+03:00 Liam Wyatt liamwyatt@gmail.com:
And the award for for the first negative comment on this thread that is designed to be "about things going right" goes to Trilliam. Congratulations on being the official "party pooper" of Wikimedia-l.
There
will be cake tomorrow.
To return to nice things, and in response to the previous message by A ntanana: I learned a few months ago that in the Ukrainian Wikipedia they don't
give
out "barnstars", the give out "cans of condensed milk"! Why? Because they're sweet :-)
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%...
And, please correct me if I'm wrong Antanana, but you also identify the "best newbie" each month on the Ukrainian Wikipedia and physically
send a
can of condensed milk to that person in the mail?! I think that's just
the
coolest, funnest, most unique way of celebrating new contributors I've heard of!
-Liam / Wittylama.
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Thanks to Wikidata and Module:Wikidata [1], it is now possible [2] to include a basic infobox in an article using a single line, rather than the usual lengthy piece of wikicode (which new users could find off-putting). For a live example, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole_Telescope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole_Telescope
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Wikidata https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Wikidata [2] for an example of how to enable this for your favourite infobox, see the source code of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_telescope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_telescope
Thanks, Mike
Interesting! But there are a few problems with this: 1) This gives you the data that is in the item, but what does it give you when there is no data in the item? 2) I am missing a discrete [edit] somewhere indicating where I go to add the data for the fields that are missing from the template
I really like the one line aspect - very clean-looking in the edit window!
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:42 PM, Michael Peel email@mikepeel.net wrote:
Thanks to Wikidata and Module:Wikidata [1], it is now possible [2] to include a basic infobox in an article using a single line, rather than the usual lengthy piece of wikicode (which new users could find off-putting). For a live example, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole_Telescope < https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole_Telescope%3E
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Wikidata < https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Wikidata%3E [2] for an example of how to enable this for your favourite infobox, see the source code of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_telescope < https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_telescope%3E
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- This gives you the data that is in the item, but what does it give you
when there is no data in the item?
Ideally, all of the data would be in the wikidata item, and if there's no data then there's nothing to display. ;-) But in practice, you can pass parameter information to the template in the usual way, which will then be shown in the infobox regardless of whether there is information on wikidata about that parameter or not. This infobox template is still in use in other articles in the usual fashion, and it only reverts to wikidata information for empty parameters.
- I am missing a discrete [edit] somewhere indicating where I go to add
the data for the fields that are missing from the template
This could probably be handled by an [edit] link in the infobox that points users towards wikidata. However, there's currently no way to show blank fields on wikidata for empty entries that are used in the template, you have to know the right property number or name in order to add it.
This is definitely something that needs more technical development, but that doesn't stop it from being cool. ;-)
Thanks, Mike
Oh I totally agree that it is cool. Thanks for posting this!
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Michael Peel email@mikepeel.net wrote:
- This gives you the data that is in the item, but what does it give you
when there is no data in the item?
Ideally, all of the data would be in the wikidata item, and if there's no data then there's nothing to display. ;-) But in practice, you can pass parameter information to the template in the usual way, which will then be shown in the infobox regardless of whether there is information on wikidata about that parameter or not. This infobox template is still in use in other articles in the usual fashion, and it only reverts to wikidata information for empty parameters.
- I am missing a discrete [edit] somewhere indicating where I go to add
the data for the fields that are missing from the template
This could probably be handled by an [edit] link in the infobox that points users towards wikidata. However, there's currently no way to show blank fields on wikidata for empty entries that are used in the template, you have to know the right property number or name in order to add it.
This is definitely something that needs more technical development, but that doesn't stop it from being cool. ;-)
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On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Trillium Corsage trillium2014@yandex.com wrote:
I wasn't going to join in, not wanting to affect Fae's situation with my own, but reading the latest emails he was actually concerned with the UK list, so I'll go ahead.
Would someone mind taking me off moderation as well? I see what the issue was in the first place, and will not do it again. I think it has been much more than a year since then.
You had one job, man: don't attack people on the mailing list.
You lasted a little more than two weeks. Since you obviously don't see what the issue is, after all, and I don't know what to expect from you (although I hope I can be forgiven for admittedly suspecting "more of this"), I'm flagging this address for moderation again.
Best of luck with your next sockpuppet.
Austin
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