Hi.
This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads to a newly reimplemented info action:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info
Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users.
This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this nature.
The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action (it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail this list or file a bug at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/.
MZMcBride
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Hi.
This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads to a newly reimplemented info action:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info
Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users.
This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this nature.
The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action (it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail this list or file a bug at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/.
MZMcBride
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Concur with Philippe. Thanks for letting us know about this.
Risker
On 22 October 2012 17:59, Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation < pbeaudette@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Now that's just cool...
Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc
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-----Original Message----- From: MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com Sender: wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:41:21 To: Wikimedia Mailing Listwikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
Hi.
This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads to a newly reimplemented info action:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info
Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users.
This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this nature.
The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action (it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail this list or file a bug at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/.
MZMcBride
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MZMcBride,
This looks fantastic, and very useful! I'm not sure how related this is, but is there any way the page can also pull up page views? Or would that be a problem? My understanding is that page views puts too much load on the servers, so it may well be unworkable...
It's also be useful to be able to see how many editors, authors etc there were in the past 24 hours - again, I'm not sure if this is doable, but I thought I'd throw it out there!
Richard Symonds/Chase me ladies
On 22 October 2012 22:41, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Hi.
This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads to a newly reimplemented info action:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info
Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users.
This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this nature.
The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action (it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail this list or file a bug at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/.
MZMcBride
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On 23 October 2012 10:59, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
This looks fantastic, and very useful! I'm not sure how related this is, but is there any way the page can also pull up page views? Or would that be a problem? My understanding is that page views puts too much load on the servers, so it may well be unworkable...
History pages on en:wp already have a link to stats.grok.se, shouldn't be hard to put such a link here as well.
- d.
Richard Symonds wrote:
This looks fantastic, and very useful! I'm not sure how related this is, but is there any way the page can also pull up page views? Or would that be a problem? My understanding is that page views puts too much load on the servers, so it may well be unworkable...
It's also be useful to be able to see how many editors, authors etc there were in the past 24 hours - again, I'm not sure if this is doable, but I thought I'd throw it out there!
Yes, I had a similar thought last evening. :-) I've filed a few bugs about this:
* "Incorporate analytics into MediaWiki's info action (tracking)" https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41326
* "Add page views graph(s) to MediaWiki's info action" https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41327
* "Add edit history graph(s) to MediaWiki's info action" https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41329
Andy Mabbett wrote:
On 22 October 2012 22:41, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the number of page watchers) will be displayed.
Why is this for admins only?
Good question! There's a thorough explanation of the background of this at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39957.
In short, the plan going forward is to make this value configurable per-wiki. So you'll have an "or" condition. Users will be able to see the number of page watchers if they have the "unwatchedpages" user right (by default, administrators have this user right) _or_ if the number of watchers meets or exceeds the value set (on a per-wiki basis) via a new configuration variable ($wgUnwatchedPageThreshold). So, for example, the English Wikipedia might set this value to 30, while smaller wikis might set it lower.
David Gerard wrote:
On 23 October 2012 10:59, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
This looks fantastic, and very useful! I'm not sure how related this is, but is there any way the page can also pull up page views? Or would that be a problem? My understanding is that page views puts too much load on the servers, so it may well be unworkable...
History pages on en:wp already have a link to stats.grok.se, shouldn't be hard to put such a link here as well.
In fact, it's already there and has been for a few weeks. ;-) Part of the design of the action was to add a header and footer section. In this case, those exact links from ?action=history (where not all of them ever made much sense, honestly) have been copied to ?action=info. The relevant system message is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Pageinfo-footer.
MZMcBride
On 22 October 2012 22:41, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis.
This sounds like a really useful feature.
for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the number of page watchers) will be displayed.
Why is this for admins only?
On 23 October 2012 11:29, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 22 October 2012 22:41, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information"
link
in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis.
This sounds like a really useful feature.
for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the number of page watchers) will be displayed.
Why is this for admins only?
For the same reason Special:UnwatchedPages is Admin-only I presume :) to avoid people using this feature to identify unwatched pages to vandalise.
Tom
for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the number of page watchers) will be displayed.
Why is this for admins only?
For the same reason Special:UnwatchedPages is Admin-only I presume :) to avoid people using this feature to identify unwatched pages to vandalise.
Tom
This tool is not only for admins:
http://toolserver.org/~mzmcbride/watcher/?db=enwiki_p&titles=Main_Page
;)
But it works, if number of watchers > 30
Przykuta
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