Again, I'm not going to go into detail about how I arrived at the 18% figure for enwiki admins under the poverty line until the accusation that I violated the Privacy Policy is withdrawn or my questions about it are addressed. I am confident that it's accurate within a few percent. Instead of criticizing my spelling, I think it would be better if Foundation officials determined the figure for themselves.
It is sad that those who are very well off are so quick to exclude the possibility of helping impoverished long term contributors.
To end poverty, you can not just employ all who are poor, think that its 18% are managers, how many of the readers are in a precarious situation? This is one of the reasons I think this is bad focus, increasingly away from a social vision and increasingly commercial with its unique product, the Wikipedia...
"Imagine a world in which *every single human being* can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment."
Bullshit, every human with money to buy a pc and have access to internet, and capable to donate. That's WMF commitment.
On 25 October 2012 03:46, James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com wrote:
Again, I'm not going to go into detail about how I arrived at the 18% figure for enwiki admins under the poverty line until the accusation that I violated the Privacy Policy is withdrawn or my questions about it are addressed. I am confident that it's accurate within a few percent. Instead of criticizing my spelling, I think it would be better if Foundation officials determined the figure for themselves.
It is sad that those who are very well off are so quick to exclude the possibility of helping impoverished long term contributors.
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On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton < rodrigo.argenton@gmail.com> wrote:
Bullshit, every human with money to buy a pc and have access to internet, and capable to donate. That's WMF commitment.
All comments about the choice of partners aside, that is not true. The Zero partnerships provide Wikipedia for free on mobile devices across countries that completely missed the PC generation. Without asking for donations aside from the mobile carriers' bandwidth.
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:46 PM, James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com wrote:
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It is sad that those who are very well off are so quick to exclude the possibility of helping impoverished long term contributors.
WMF is not a welfare system. Donors would rightly complain if the money was used for purposes other than those described in the donation solicitation messaging.
Impoverished long term contributors should get a job.
-- John Vandenberg
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:26 AM, John Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
Impoverished long term contributors should get a job.
That's not really helpful, John. The flaw is what one considers impoverished. It is very possible to be worth a lot on paper and owe more than that sum on paper. The entire premise is erroneous.
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