I wanted to share this because it's pertinent to issues with large companies using our information without complying with the license terms:
https://www.ted.com/talks/scott_galloway_how_amazon_apple_facebook_and_googl...
One discussions I've had with both Erik Moeller online and Katherine Maher in person is about whether voice browsers should share the date of CC-BY wiki articles when their speech synthesis devices quote from them.
Are there any reasons that would be bad? It would help encourage new editors by raising awareness of the ultimate source of "AI" answers.
Best regards, Jim
I don't think it's particularly user/design friendly
Seddon
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018, 16:22 James Salsman, jsalsman@gmail.com wrote:
I wanted to share this because it's pertinent to issues with large companies using our information without complying with the license terms:
https://www.ted.com/talks/scott_galloway_how_amazon_apple_facebook_and_googl...
One discussions I've had with both Erik Moeller online and Katherine Maher in person is about whether voice browsers should share the date of CC-BY wiki articles when their speech synthesis devices quote from them.
Are there any reasons that would be bad? It would help encourage new editors by raising awareness of the ultimate source of "AI" answers.
Best regards, Jim
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I don't think it's particularly user/design friendly
How does the Foundation choose between presentation advantages for commercial users, and advantages for attracting and retaining editors?
Is the request to try the word "edit" instead of a pencil icon on mobile a good example of the Foundation's general disposition of such questions?
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2017_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Archive/Repla...
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Heatherawalls#Design-blocked_techn...
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018, 16:22 James Salsman, jsalsman@gmail.com wrote:
I wanted to share this because it's pertinent to issues with large companies using our information without complying with the license terms:
https://www.ted.com/talks/scott_galloway_how_amazon_apple_facebook_and_googl...
One discussions I've had with both Erik Moeller online and Katherine Maher in person is about whether voice browsers should share the date of CC-BY wiki articles when their speech synthesis devices quote from them.
Are there any reasons that would be bad? It would help encourage new editors by raising awareness of the ultimate source of "AI" answers.
Best regards, Jim
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That's a completely different and unrelated issue to the thread YOU stated. Whilst I'm impressed at your willingness to hijack your own thread to refer to a completely unrelated topic after only one response, it is unsurprising and I'm personally bored of it.
Please stick to the topic at hand or start a new thread.
Regards Seddon
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I don't think it's particularly user/design friendly
How does the Foundation choose between presentation advantages for commercial users, and advantages for attracting and retaining editors?
Is the request to try the word "edit" instead of a pencil icon on mobile a good example of the Foundation's general disposition of such questions?
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2017_Community_Wishlist_ Survey/Archive/Replace_or_supplement_mobile_pencil_icon_ with_%22edit%22_in_square_brackets_and_A/B_test_editing_uptake
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Heatherawalls# Design-blocked_technical_community_wish
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018, 16:22 James Salsman, jsalsman@gmail.com wrote:
I wanted to share this because it's pertinent to issues with large companies using our information without complying with the license terms:
apple_facebook_and_google_manipulate_our_emotions
One discussions I've had with both Erik Moeller online and Katherine Maher in person is about whether voice browsers should share the date of CC-BY wiki articles when their speech synthesis devices quote from them.
Are there any reasons that would be bad? It would help encourage new editors by raising awareness of the ultimate source of "AI" answers.
Best regards, Jim
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That's a completely different and unrelated issue to the thread YOU stated.
The issues share the commonalities of user friendliness/design and a Foundation decision on the question of presentation vs. editor attraction and retention.
Please stick to the topic at hand or start a new thread.
Suppose we offer Cook, Bezos, Page, and Nadella the right to omit the date in return for $50 million each, half to the Endowment and half to the Foundation?
I don't think it's particularly user/design friendly
How does the Foundation choose between presentation advantages for commercial users, and advantages for attracting and retaining editors?
Is the request to try the word "edit" instead of a pencil icon on mobile a good example of the Foundation's general disposition of such questions?
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2017_Community_Wishlist_ Survey/Archive/Replace_or_supplement_mobile_pencil_icon_ with_%22edit%22_in_square_brackets_and_A/B_test_editing_uptake
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Heatherawalls# Design-blocked_technical_community_wish
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018, 16:22 James Salsman, jsalsman@gmail.com wrote:
I wanted to share this because it's pertinent to issues with large companies using our information without complying with the license terms:
apple_facebook_and_google_manipulate_our_emotions
One discussions I've had with both Erik Moeller online and Katherine Maher in person is about whether voice browsers should share the date of CC-BY wiki articles when their speech synthesis devices quote from them.
Are there any reasons that would be bad? It would help encourage new editors by raising awareness of the ultimate source of "AI" answers.
Best regards, Jim
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Large corporations should not be allowed to violate copyleft. If they are creating derivative products from Wikipedia -- which they are -- those derivative products should be released under CC-BY-SA.
Google Knowledge Graph seems to be somewhat close, in that there is an API https://developers.google.com/knowledge-graph/ - but it is not CC-BY-SA.
Wikipedia's license is *not* CC-BY. It is CC-BY-SA.
On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:55 AM, James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com wrote:
That's a completely different and unrelated issue to the thread YOU
stated.
The issues share the commonalities of user friendliness/design and a Foundation decision on the question of presentation vs. editor attraction and retention.
Please stick to the topic at hand or start a new thread.
Suppose we offer Cook, Bezos, Page, and Nadella the right to omit the date in return for $50 million each, half to the Endowment and half to the Foundation?
I don't think it's particularly user/design friendly
How does the Foundation choose between presentation advantages for commercial users, and advantages for attracting and retaining editors?
Is the request to try the word "edit" instead of a pencil icon on mobile a good example of the Foundation's general disposition of such questions?
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2017_Community_Wishlist_ Survey/Archive/Replace_or_supplement_mobile_pencil_icon_ with_%22edit%22_in_square_brackets_and_A/B_test_editing_uptake
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Heatherawalls# Design-blocked_technical_community_wish
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018, 16:22 James Salsman, jsalsman@gmail.com wrote:
I wanted to share this because it's pertinent to issues with large companies using our information without complying with the license terms:
apple_facebook_and_google_manipulate_our_emotions
One discussions I've had with both Erik Moeller online and Katherine Maher in person is about whether voice browsers should share the date of CC-BY wiki articles when their speech synthesis devices quote from them.
Are there any reasons that would be bad? It would help encourage new editors by raising awareness of the ultimate source of "AI" answers.
Best regards, Jim
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