Today we received some bad news in Sweden. The Swedish Patent and Market Court ruled against Wikimedia Sverige in a lawsuit filed by Visual Copyright Society in Sweden http://bus.se/en (BUS). The case concerns images of public art online, more specifically in the case of our website Offentligkonst.se http://offentligkonst.se/, a service created by Wikimedia Sverige using images from Wikimedia Commons.
The ruling means that Freedom of Panorama is eroded and the public space is diminished. It is a detrimental loss for our projects. Next we will talk to our lawyers and WMF legal team to see what our remaining legal options are. Our lawyers however believe that success is not very likely if we would decide to move forward.
Intensive efforts to advocate for our elected officials to change the outdated and problematic clauses in Swedish copyright law will be initiated during the year.
We have also started a crowdfunding campaign to cover some of the cost of the legal expenses and fines of about 750,000 SEK stated in the verdict (around 89,000 USD) and for future national and international lobbying efforts. Please consider making a donation at http://wikimedia.se/en/donera, http://wikimedia.se/en/doneraev http://wikimedia.se/en/doneraen http://wikimedia.se/en/donera i http://wikimedia.se/en/doneraf http://wikimedia.se/en/donerait http://wikimedia.se/en/donera i http://wikimedia.se/en/doneras http://wikimedia.se/en/doneraa http://wikimedia.se/en/donerasy http://wikimedia.se/en/doneramb http://wikimedia.se/en/doneraol http://wikimedia.se/en/doneraic http://wikimedia.se/en/donera s http://wikimedia.se/en/doneraum http://wikimedia.se/en/donera. Simply add “BUS” in the comment, and all the money will be used for these costs.
Some useful links (in Swedish):
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The legal argumentation from the court: http://www.hogstadomstolen.se/Domstolar/hogstadomstolen/Avgoranden/2016/2016-04-04%20%C3%96%20849-15%20Beslut.pdf http://www.bildupphovsratt.se/sites/default/files/upload/ stockholms_tr_pmt_8448-14_dom_2017-07-06.pdf http://www.bildupphovsratt.se/sites/default/files/upload/stockholms_tr_pmt_8448-14_dom_2017-07-06.pdf http://www.hogstadomstolen.se/Domstolar/hogstadomstolen/Avgoranden/2016/2016-04-04%20%C3%96%20849-15%20Beslut.pdf -
Our press release: http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/pressreleases/hoegsta-domstolen-vaeljer-att-krympa-det-offentliga-rummet-istaellet-foer-att-gaa-paa-wikimedia-sveriges-linje-1360834 https://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/wikimedia-sverige/ pressreleases/domslut-krymper-det-offentliga-rummet-i-sverige-2054679 https://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/wikimedia-sverige/pressreleases/domslut-krymper-det-offentliga-rummet-i-sverige-2054679 http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/pressreleases/hoegsta-domstolen-vaeljer-att-krympa-det-offentliga-rummet-istaellet-foer-att-gaa-paa-wikimedia-sveriges-linje-1360834 -
A timeline of what has happened: https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/ Offentligkonst.se/Stämning
Best,
John
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John Andersson
Executive Director Wikimedia Sverige
Phone: +46(0)73-3965189 <073-396%2051%2089>
Email: john.andersson@wikimedia.se
Skype: johnandersson86
Well bummer. I hope that you can figure out a good lobbying next step.
Cheers,
Alex
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 11:41 AM, John Andersson <john.andersson@wikimedia.se
wrote:
Today we received some bad news in Sweden. The Swedish Patent and Market Court ruled against Wikimedia Sverige in a lawsuit filed by Visual Copyright Society in Sweden http://bus.se/en (BUS). The case concerns images of public art online, more specifically in the case of our website Offentligkonst.se http://offentligkonst.se/, a service created by Wikimedia Sverige using images from Wikimedia Commons.
The ruling means that Freedom of Panorama is eroded and the public space is diminished. It is a detrimental loss for our projects. Next we will talk to our lawyers and WMF legal team to see what our remaining legal options are. Our lawyers however believe that success is not very likely if we would decide to move forward.
Intensive efforts to advocate for our elected officials to change the outdated and problematic clauses in Swedish copyright law will be initiated during the year.
We have also started a crowdfunding campaign to cover some of the cost of the legal expenses and fines of about 750,000 SEK stated in the verdict (around 89,000 USD) and for future national and international lobbying efforts. Please consider making a donation at http://wikimedia.se/en/donera, http://wikimedia.se/en/doneraev http://wikimedia.se/en/doneraen http://wikimedia.se/en/donera i http://wikimedia.se/en/doneraf http://wikimedia.se/en/donerait http://wikimedia.se/en/donera i http://wikimedia.se/en/doneras http://wikimedia.se/en/doneraa http://wikimedia.se/en/donerasy http://wikimedia.se/en/doneramb http://wikimedia.se/en/doneraol http://wikimedia.se/en/doneraic http://wikimedia.se/en/donera s http://wikimedia.se/en/doneraum http://wikimedia.se/en/donera. Simply add “BUS” in the comment, and all the money will be used for these costs.
Some useful links (in Swedish):
The legal argumentation from the court: http://www.hogstadomstolen.se/Domstolar/hogstadomstolen/Avgoranden/2016/2016-04-04%20%C3%96%20849-15%20Beslut.pdf http://www.bildupphovsratt.se/sites/default/files/upload/sto ckholms_tr_pmt_8448-14_dom_2017-07-06.pdf http://www.bildupphovsratt.se/sites/default/files/upload/stockholms_tr_pmt_8448-14_dom_2017-07-06.pdf http://www.hogstadomstolen.se/Domstolar/hogstadomstolen/Avgoranden/2016/2016-04-04%20%C3%96%20849-15%20Beslut.pdf
Our press release: http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/pressreleases/hoegsta-domstolen-vaeljer-att-krympa-det-offentliga-rummet-istaellet-foer-att-gaa-paa-wikimedia-sveriges-linje-1360834 https://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/wikimedia-sverige/pressrelease s/domslut-krymper-det-offentliga-rummet-i-sverige-2054679 https://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/wikimedia-sverige/pressreleases/domslut-krymper-det-offentliga-rummet-i-sverige-2054679 http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/pressreleases/hoegsta-domstolen-vaeljer-att-krympa-det-offentliga-rummet-istaellet-foer-att-gaa-paa-wikimedia-sveriges-linje-1360834
A timeline of what has happened: https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/ Offentligkonst.se/Stämning
Best,
John
John Andersson
Executive Director Wikimedia Sverige
Phone: +46(0)73-3965189 <073-396%2051%2089>
Email: john.andersson@wikimedia.se
Skype: johnandersson86
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John,
The WMF has a large legal fund to support volunteers and projects like Commons, which from my memory has only ever been paid out on a couple of occasions (if anyone has a link to a list, I love to see it). At least part of the 89,000 USD mentioned seems suitable for this emergency funding, especially as Wikimedia Sverige cannot have been expected to plan for these costs.
Has WMF legal been approached to give them a chance to say yes?
Thanks, Fae
On 7 July 2017 at 16:41, John Andersson john.andersson@wikimedia.se wrote:
Today we received some bad news in Sweden. The Swedish Patent and Market Court ruled against Wikimedia Sverige in a lawsuit filed by Visual Copyright Society in Sweden (BUS). The case concerns images of public art online, more specifically in the case of our website Offentligkonst.se, a service created by Wikimedia Sverige using images from Wikimedia Commons.
The ruling means that Freedom of Panorama is eroded and the public space is diminished. It is a detrimental loss for our projects. Next we will talk to our lawyers and WMF legal team to see what our remaining legal options are. Our lawyers however believe that success is not very likely if we would decide to move forward.
Intensive efforts to advocate for our elected officials to change the outdated and problematic clauses in Swedish copyright law will be initiated during the year.
We have also started a crowdfunding campaign to cover some of the cost of the legal expenses and fines of about 750,000 SEK stated in the verdict (around 89,000 USD) and for future national and international lobbying efforts. Please consider making a donation at http://wikimedia.se/en/donera, even if it is a symbolic sum. Simply add “BUS” in the comment, and all the money will be used for these costs.
Some useful links (in Swedish):
The legal argumentation from the court: http://www.bildupphovsratt.se/sites/default/files/upload/stockholms_tr_pmt_8...
Our press release: https://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/wikimedia-sverige/pressreleases/domslut-krympe...
A timeline of what has happened: https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Offentligkonst.se/St%C3%A4mning
Best,
John
John Andersson
Executive Director
Wikimedia Sverige
Phone: +46(0)73-3965189
Email: john.andersson@wikimedia.se
Skype: johnandersson86
For reference, I believe Fae refers to the Defense of Contributors Fund: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal/Legal_Policies#Defense_of_Contributors
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 1:09 AM, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
John,
The WMF has a large legal fund to support volunteers and projects like Commons, which from my memory has only ever been paid out on a couple of occasions (if anyone has a link to a list, I love to see it). At least part of the 89,000 USD mentioned seems suitable for this emergency funding, especially as Wikimedia Sverige cannot have been expected to plan for these costs.
Has WMF legal been approached to give them a chance to say yes?
Thanks, Fae
On 7 July 2017 at 16:41, John Andersson john.andersson@wikimedia.se wrote:
Today we received some bad news in Sweden. The Swedish Patent and Market Court ruled against Wikimedia Sverige in a lawsuit filed by Visual
Copyright
Society in Sweden (BUS). The case concerns images of public art online,
more
specifically in the case of our website Offentligkonst.se, a service
created
by Wikimedia Sverige using images from Wikimedia Commons.
The ruling means that Freedom of Panorama is eroded and the public space
is
diminished. It is a detrimental loss for our projects. Next we will talk
to
our lawyers and WMF legal team to see what our remaining legal options
are.
Our lawyers however believe that success is not very likely if we would decide to move forward.
Intensive efforts to advocate for our elected officials to change the outdated and problematic clauses in Swedish copyright law will be
initiated
during the year.
We have also started a crowdfunding campaign to cover some of the cost of the legal expenses and fines of about 750,000 SEK stated in the verdict (around 89,000 USD) and for future national and international lobbying efforts. Please consider making a donation at
http://wikimedia.se/en/donera,
even if it is a symbolic sum. Simply add “BUS” in the comment, and all
the
money will be used for these costs.
Some useful links (in Swedish):
The legal argumentation from the court: http://www.bildupphovsratt.se/sites/default/files/upload/
stockholms_tr_pmt_8448-14_dom_2017-07-06.pdf
Our press release: https://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/wikimedia-sverige/
pressreleases/domslut-krymper-det-offentliga-rummet-i-sverige-2054679
A timeline of what has happened: https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Offentligkonst.se/St%C3%A4mning
Best,
John
John Andersson
Executive Director
Wikimedia Sverige
Phone: +46(0)73-3965189
Email: john.andersson@wikimedia.se
Skype: johnandersson86
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I thought that case was lost over a year ago, in the Swedish Supreme Court:
http://fortune.com/2016/04/05/wikimedia-sweden-artworks/
What happened between then and now for this to end up in the Swedish Patent and Market Court?
Andreas
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 9:21 AM, Philippe Beaudette philippe@beaudette.me wrote:
For reference, I believe Fae refers to the Defense of Contributors Fund: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal/Legal_Policies# Defense_of_Contributors
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 1:09 AM, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
John,
The WMF has a large legal fund to support volunteers and projects like Commons, which from my memory has only ever been paid out on a couple of occasions (if anyone has a link to a list, I love to see it). At least part of the 89,000 USD mentioned seems suitable for this emergency funding, especially as Wikimedia Sverige cannot have been expected to plan for these costs.
Has WMF legal been approached to give them a chance to say yes?
Thanks, Fae
On 7 July 2017 at 16:41, John Andersson john.andersson@wikimedia.se wrote:
Today we received some bad news in Sweden. The Swedish Patent and
Market
Court ruled against Wikimedia Sverige in a lawsuit filed by Visual
Copyright
Society in Sweden (BUS). The case concerns images of public art online,
more
specifically in the case of our website Offentligkonst.se, a service
created
by Wikimedia Sverige using images from Wikimedia Commons.
The ruling means that Freedom of Panorama is eroded and the public
space
is
diminished. It is a detrimental loss for our projects. Next we will
talk
to
our lawyers and WMF legal team to see what our remaining legal options
are.
Our lawyers however believe that success is not very likely if we would decide to move forward.
Intensive efforts to advocate for our elected officials to change the outdated and problematic clauses in Swedish copyright law will be
initiated
during the year.
We have also started a crowdfunding campaign to cover some of the cost
of
the legal expenses and fines of about 750,000 SEK stated in the verdict (around 89,000 USD) and for future national and international lobbying efforts. Please consider making a donation at
http://wikimedia.se/en/donera,
even if it is a symbolic sum. Simply add “BUS” in the comment, and all
the
money will be used for these costs.
Some useful links (in Swedish):
The legal argumentation from the court: http://www.bildupphovsratt.se/sites/default/files/upload/
stockholms_tr_pmt_8448-14_dom_2017-07-06.pdf
Our press release: https://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/wikimedia-sverige/
pressreleases/domslut-krymper-det-offentliga-rummet-i-sverige-2054679
A timeline of what has happened: https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Offentligkonst.se/St%C3%A4mning
Best,
John
John Andersson
Executive Director
Wikimedia Sverige
Phone: +46(0)73-3965189
Email: john.andersson@wikimedia.se
Skype: johnandersson86
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As I undestand it, the Swedish Supreme Court determined the general principles of law involved and remitted the case back to the Patent and Market Court to resolve the specific issues between the parties.
"Rogol"
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen466@gmail.com wrote:
I thought that case was lost over a year ago, in the Swedish Supreme Court:
http://fortune.com/2016/04/05/wikimedia-sweden-artworks/
What happened between then and now for this to end up in the Swedish Patent and Market Court?
Andreas
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