https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_23_2413
In the same category as Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, TikTok ...
On the face of it, this seems a miscategorisation. However, the recommendations aren't *bad*, and they're stuff we basically do anyway - though through volunteer editors, not the Foundation.
The main nuisance will be a report as if we're Facebook.
How are we approaching this one?
- d.
Hi David,
Booking.com, Zalando, app stores and AliExpress make even stranger bedfellows in that list, and yet here we are! It wasn't unexpected, though; it follows on from the userbase estimates we posted back in Feb. [1] This was raised overnight on a parallel mailing list [2], and I just posted a fuller answer there - perhaps a bit too lengthy to reproduce here, though? In any case, a Diff post is in the works.
[1] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:EU_DSA_Userbase_Statistics [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org...
Best,
Phil Bradley-Schmieg (he/him) - Lead Counsel, WMF
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 at 11:13, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_23_2413
In the same category as Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, TikTok ...
On the face of it, this seems a miscategorisation. However, the recommendations aren't *bad*, and they're stuff we basically do anyway
- though through volunteer editors, not the Foundation.
The main nuisance will be a report as if we're Facebook.
How are we approaching this one?
- d.
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We'll have to start stealing and selling user data to fit in...
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 10:13 AM David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_23_2413
In the same category as Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, TikTok ...
On the face of it, this seems a miscategorisation. However, the recommendations aren't *bad*, and they're stuff we basically do anyway
- though through volunteer editors, not the Foundation.
The main nuisance will be a report as if we're Facebook.
How are we approaching this one?
- d.
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Hi/Bon dia,
To me, statements like "Platforms need to provide an easily understandable, plain-language summary of their terms and conditions, in the languages of the Member States where they operate" seem to perpetuate some problems (or legal questions/gaps) of what will happen with those wikis in minority languages that are spoken in more than one Member State (Basque, Silesian, Occitan, Catalan, Sami languages, etc).
Will we need to force each individual wiki project to include texts in other languages and to recomply certain practices, as they are separate websites? Or will it be accepted that the sum of each linguistical domain works as a whole?
Best/Salutacions
Xavier Dengra
El dj, 27 abr., 2023 a 12:12, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com va escriure:
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_23_2413
In the same category as Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, TikTok ...
On the face of it, this seems a miscategorisation. However, the recommendations aren't *bad*, and they're stuff we basically do anyway
- though through volunteer editors, not the Foundation.
The main nuisance will be a report as if we're Facebook.
How are we approaching this one?
- d.
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- Special risk assessments including for negative effects on mental health will have to be provided to the Commission 4 months after designation and made public at the latest a year later;
This is what I found from the requirements of the designation: What health effect? like over-reading articles or engaging in over-exhausting communities?
Regards, William Chan
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 at 21:21, F. Xavier Dengra i Grau via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hi/Bon dia,
To me, statements like "Platforms need to provide an easily understandable, plain-language summary of their terms and conditions, in the languages of the Member States where they operate" seem to perpetuate some problems (or legal questions/gaps) of what will happen with those wikis in minority languages that are spoken in more than one Member State (Basque, Silesian, Occitan, Catalan, Sami languages, etc).
Will we need to force each individual wiki project to include texts in other languages and to recomply certain practices, as they are separate websites? Or will it be accepted that the sum of each linguistical domain works as a whole?
Best/Salutacions
Xavier Dengra
El dj, 27 abr., 2023 a 12:12, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com va escriure:
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_23_2413
In the same category as Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, TikTok ...
On the face of it, this seems a miscategorisation. However, the recommendations aren't *bad*, and they're stuff we basically do anyway
- though through volunteer editors, not the Foundation.
The main nuisance will be a report as if we're Facebook.
How are we approaching this one?
- d.
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The 21 official languages of the EU will suffice.
Op do 27 apr. 2023 15:20 schreef F. Xavier Dengra i Grau via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>:
Hi/Bon dia,
To me, statements like "Platforms need to provide an easily understandable, plain-language summary of their terms and conditions, in the languages of the Member States where they operate" seem to perpetuate some problems (or legal questions/gaps) of what will happen with those wikis in minority languages that are spoken in more than one Member State (Basque, Silesian, Occitan, Catalan, Sami languages, etc).
Will we need to force each individual wiki project to include texts in other languages and to recomply certain practices, as they are separate websites? Or will it be accepted that the sum of each linguistical domain works as a whole?
Best/Salutacions
Xavier Dengra
El dj, 27 abr., 2023 a 12:12, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com va escriure:
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_23_2413
In the same category as Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, TikTok ...
On the face of it, this seems a miscategorisation. However, the recommendations aren't *bad*, and they're stuff we basically do anyway
- though through volunteer editors, not the Foundation.
The main nuisance will be a report as if we're Facebook.
How are we approaching this one?
- d.
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