Hello all,
after talking about it a few times here, the official proposal for creating the multilingual Wikipedia proposal is now on Meta.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilambda
The idea is to create abstract, language-independent content in Wikidata, and then translate it into natural language using function. These functions will be defined and maintained in a new Wikimedia project, which I preliminary called Wikilambda.
Wikilambda will be a new Wikimedia project that allows to create, maintain, catalog, and evaluate functions about all kind of things. You can find a lot of further details in the link above. If you have any questions, I am happy to answer them.
The official project proposal process basically says, make the proposal here, and then go and tell everyone, and at some point, the Board might look at this and say, yes good idea.
So I would love to collect many of your voices and support signatures, so that I can go to the Board and tell them look at this :) So please sign here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikilambda
Thank you, Denny
Great! The time seems right. Is the idea to begin with P1.1 and P1.2, on a test wiki, and have a branch of abstracttext that anyone can submit functions to, while working on the proposal and setting this up formally as a sibling projet?
Is there anything Wikispore could do to help get something like this underway? //S
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 3:28 PM Denny Vrandečić vrandecic@gmail.com wrote:
Hello all,
after talking about it a few times here, the official proposal for creating the multilingual Wikipedia proposal is now on Meta.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilambda
The idea is to create abstract, language-independent content in Wikidata, and then translate it into natural language using function. These functions will be defined and maintained in a new Wikimedia project, which I preliminary called Wikilambda.
Wikilambda will be a new Wikimedia project that allows to create, maintain, catalog, and evaluate functions about all kind of things. You can find a lot of further details in the link above. If you have any questions, I am happy to answer them.
The official project proposal process basically says, make the proposal here, and then go and tell everyone, and at some point, the Board might look at this and say, yes good idea.
So I would love to collect many of your voices and support signatures, so that I can go to the Board and tell them look at this :) So please sign here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikilambda
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Thank you so much for your encouraging words, SJ!
I am still trying to figure out how to proceed, and it depends on how the proposal is received (so please, take a look and vote!). As I said previously, I also have talked with people at the Foundation to see what can be done to turn this from a silly Denny-idea to a proper project, and all the feedback on the material so far has been super useful. I am not sure if we should start with the P1.1 - which has a number of legal and trademark considerations and would benefit from the Foundation already be committed - but P1.2 is certainly something where we could start.
Regarding the abstracttext code base, I am super happy to see already people making it easier to dockerize (Thank you Arthur!) and fixing errors in the spec (Thank you Lucas!), which is awesome. I still feel very wary about offering a publicly editable instance due to the security issues, but I am thinking about having a read-only public instance or a restricted-write public instance.
I am not sure how we could drive it on Wikispore, given that it needs so much additional software, and it would be rather unwise to add abstracttext to Wikispore I guess. Did you have something in mind?
Again, thank you! Denny
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 4:44 PM Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Great! The time seems right. Is the idea to begin with P1.1 and P1.2, on a test wiki, and have a branch of abstracttext that anyone can submit functions to, while working on the proposal and setting this up formally as a sibling projet?
Is there anything Wikispore could do to help get something like this underway? //S
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 3:28 PM Denny Vrandečić vrandecic@gmail.com wrote:
Hello all,
after talking about it a few times here, the official proposal for
creating
the multilingual Wikipedia proposal is now on Meta.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilambda
The idea is to create abstract, language-independent content in Wikidata, and then translate it into natural language using function. These
functions
will be defined and maintained in a new Wikimedia project, which I preliminary called Wikilambda.
Wikilambda will be a new Wikimedia project that allows to create,
maintain,
catalog, and evaluate functions about all kind of things. You can find a lot of further details in the link above. If you have any questions, I am happy to answer them.
The official project proposal process basically says, make the proposal here, and then go and tell everyone, and at some point, the Board might look at this and say, yes good idea.
So I would love to collect many of your voices and support signatures, so that I can go to the Board and tell them look at this :) So please sign here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikilambda
Thank you, Denny _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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