Hello readers of wikimedia-l,
One of the outcomes of the 'better thankspam' thread was to experiment with a pilot installationg of Discourse. This has been set up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ by Erik Bernhardson. In the past weeks a couple of dozen of people have signed in and have been taking a look around. In a recent thread on wikimedia-l Fæ posted results of SQL queries of number of users thanked and number of users thanking on different wikis. On Discourse users can like (by clicking a heart) for individual posts. Number of hearts received and number of hearts given are by default and automatically counted by Discourse, and these numbers are public, see https://discourse.wmflabs.org/users?period=yearly.
For the Wikimedia Discourse installation to be a succesful pilot it has to be a real alternative for the wikimedia-l mailing list. Users want to read posts in their mail, and want to be able to reply to posts by mail, without having to visit the site. Users who have signed up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ will receive new posts by default in their mailbox. Mail preferences can be individually set. Wikimedia Discourse users can reply by mail to posts received by mail. Members of Wikimedia Discourse can mail new posts. Please let me know if anything is missing at Wikimedia Discourse that the current wikimedia-l mailing list does have. Sign up for an account at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ to discover the extras Discourse offers. Wikimedia Discourse users can earn barnstars for example, isn't that nice?
Please note that by subscribing to the wikimedia-l mailing list your mailing list subscription isn't linked to any account at any Wikimedia wiki, neither is your mail address. For the wikimedia-l mailing list you will have to provide a mail address and after confirmation mailman will mail you a password. If you want to sign up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ you will have to provide a mail address and pick a password yourself. Currently their is no link between https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ accounts and any account at any Wikimedia wiki, nor is their link with mail addresses, just like it as with the wikimedia-l mailing list. A phabricator ticket requesting SSO or Oauth 1.0 or Oauth 2.0 can be found at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124691. Currently there are no resources available for writing an Oauth 1.0 plugin for Wikimedia Discourse, neither are there resources available for moving MediaWiki authentification from Oauth 1.0 to Oauth 2.0. As said, SSO or Oauth is a 'nice to have' and doesn't have to block a succesful pilot.
Secure communication is a must. The Discourse installation is now configured to default to use SSL, so you will always see https://.
Here is a short list of places where the Discourse installation can be discussed: * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discourse * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Discourse * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124690 and of course at the wikimedia-l mailing list and at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/.
Best regards,
Ad Huikeshoven
Hey Ad,
I'm getting a 502 Bad Gateway error when trying to access https://discourse.wmflabs.org/. Not sure if this is a general error with wmflabs or something specific to Discourse.
- Jethro
On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Ad Huikeshoven ad@wikimedia.nl wrote:
Hello readers of wikimedia-l,
One of the outcomes of the 'better thankspam' thread was to experiment with a pilot installationg of Discourse. This has been set up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ by Erik Bernhardson. In the past weeks a couple of dozen of people have signed in and have been taking a look around. In a recent thread on wikimedia-l Fæ posted results of SQL queries of number of users thanked and number of users thanking on different wikis. On Discourse users can like (by clicking a heart) for individual posts. Number of hearts received and number of hearts given are by default and automatically counted by Discourse, and these numbers are public, see https://discourse.wmflabs.org/users?period=yearly.
For the Wikimedia Discourse installation to be a succesful pilot it has to be a real alternative for the wikimedia-l mailing list. Users want to read posts in their mail, and want to be able to reply to posts by mail, without having to visit the site. Users who have signed up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ will receive new posts by default in their mailbox. Mail preferences can be individually set. Wikimedia Discourse users can reply by mail to posts received by mail. Members of Wikimedia Discourse can mail new posts. Please let me know if anything is missing at Wikimedia Discourse that the current wikimedia-l mailing list does have. Sign up for an account at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ to discover the extras Discourse offers. Wikimedia Discourse users can earn barnstars for example, isn't that nice?
Please note that by subscribing to the wikimedia-l mailing list your mailing list subscription isn't linked to any account at any Wikimedia wiki, neither is your mail address. For the wikimedia-l mailing list you will have to provide a mail address and after confirmation mailman will mail you a password. If you want to sign up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ you will have to provide a mail address and pick a password yourself. Currently their is no link between https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ accounts and any account at any Wikimedia wiki, nor is their link with mail addresses, just like it as with the wikimedia-l mailing list. A phabricator ticket requesting SSO or Oauth 1.0 or Oauth 2.0 can be found at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124691. Currently there are no resources available for writing an Oauth 1.0 plugin for Wikimedia Discourse, neither are there resources available for moving MediaWiki authentification from Oauth 1.0 to Oauth 2.0. As said, SSO or Oauth is a 'nice to have' and doesn't have to block a succesful pilot.
Secure communication is a must. The Discourse installation is now configured to default to use SSL, so you will always see https://.
Here is a short list of places where the Discourse installation can be discussed:
- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discourse
- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Discourse
- https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124690
and of course at the wikimedia-l mailing list and at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/.
Best regards,
Ad Huikeshoven _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
+1 502 to me also
2016-02-08 6:48 GMT+01:00 Chris Schilling cschilling@wikimedia.org:
Hey Ad,
I'm getting a 502 Bad Gateway error when trying to access https://discourse.wmflabs.org/. Not sure if this is a general error with wmflabs or something specific to Discourse.
- Jethro
On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Ad Huikeshoven ad@wikimedia.nl wrote:
Hello readers of wikimedia-l,
One of the outcomes of the 'better thankspam' thread was to experiment
with
a pilot installationg of Discourse. This has been set up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ by Erik Bernhardson. In the past weeks a couple of dozen of people have signed in and have
been
taking a look around. In a recent thread on wikimedia-l Fæ posted results of SQL queries of number of users thanked and number of users thanking on different wikis. On Discourse users can like (by clicking a heart) for individual posts. Number of hearts received and number of hearts given are by default and automatically counted by Discourse, and these numbers are public, see https://discourse.wmflabs.org/users?period=yearly.
For the Wikimedia Discourse installation to be a succesful pilot it has
to
be a real alternative for the wikimedia-l mailing list. Users want to
read
posts in their mail, and want to be able to reply to posts by mail,
without
having to visit the site. Users who have signed up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ will receive new posts by default in
their
mailbox. Mail preferences can be individually set. Wikimedia Discourse users can reply by mail to posts received by mail. Members of Wikimedia Discourse can mail new posts. Please let me know if anything is missing
at
Wikimedia Discourse that the current wikimedia-l mailing list does have. Sign up for an account at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ to discover the extras Discourse offers. Wikimedia Discourse users can earn barnstars for example, isn't that nice?
Please note that by subscribing to the wikimedia-l mailing list your mailing list subscription isn't linked to any account at any Wikimedia wiki, neither is your mail address. For the wikimedia-l mailing list you will have to provide a mail address and after confirmation mailman will mail you a password. If you want to sign up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ you will have to provide a mail address
and
pick a password yourself. Currently their is no link between https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ accounts and any account at any Wikimedia wiki, nor is their link with mail addresses, just like it as with the wikimedia-l mailing list. A phabricator ticket requesting SSO or Oauth
1.0
or Oauth 2.0 can be found at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124691. Currently there are no resources available for writing an Oauth 1.0
plugin
for Wikimedia Discourse, neither are there resources available for moving MediaWiki authentification from Oauth 1.0 to Oauth 2.0. As said, SSO or Oauth is a 'nice to have' and doesn't have to block a succesful pilot.
Secure communication is a must. The Discourse installation is now configured to default to use SSL, so you will always see https://.
Here is a short list of places where the Discourse installation can be discussed:
- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discourse
- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Discourse
- https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124690
and of course at the wikimedia-l mailing list and at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/.
Best regards,
Ad Huikeshoven _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
-- Chris "Jethro" Schilling I JethroBT (WMF) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:I_JethroBT_(WMF) Community Organizer, Wikimedia Foundation https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Home _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
The instance looks to be in a 'SHUTOFF' state, this has happened before (to other instances) for a variety of reasons, such as a vm moving between hosts and something goes wrong. There arn't any labs admins around right now, i'll have one look tomorrow morning and turn it back on.
On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Àlex Hinojo alexhinojo@gmail.com wrote:
+1 502 to me also
2016-02-08 6:48 GMT+01:00 Chris Schilling cschilling@wikimedia.org:
Hey Ad,
I'm getting a 502 Bad Gateway error when trying to access https://discourse.wmflabs.org/. Not sure if this is a general error
with
wmflabs or something specific to Discourse.
- Jethro
On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Ad Huikeshoven ad@wikimedia.nl wrote:
Hello readers of wikimedia-l,
One of the outcomes of the 'better thankspam' thread was to experiment
with
a pilot installationg of Discourse. This has been set up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ by Erik Bernhardson. In the past weeks a couple of dozen of people have signed in and have
been
taking a look around. In a recent thread on wikimedia-l Fæ posted
results
of SQL queries of number of users thanked and number of users thanking
on
different wikis. On Discourse users can like (by clicking a heart) for individual posts. Number of hearts received and number of hearts given are by default and automatically counted by Discourse, and these numbers are public, see https://discourse.wmflabs.org/users?period=yearly.
For the Wikimedia Discourse installation to be a succesful pilot it has
to
be a real alternative for the wikimedia-l mailing list. Users want to
read
posts in their mail, and want to be able to reply to posts by mail,
without
having to visit the site. Users who have signed up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ will receive new posts by default in
their
mailbox. Mail preferences can be individually set. Wikimedia Discourse users can reply by mail to posts received by mail. Members of Wikimedia Discourse can mail new posts. Please let me know if anything is missing
at
Wikimedia Discourse that the current wikimedia-l mailing list does
have.
Sign up for an account at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ to discover
the
extras Discourse offers. Wikimedia Discourse users can earn barnstars
for
example, isn't that nice?
Please note that by subscribing to the wikimedia-l mailing list your mailing list subscription isn't linked to any account at any Wikimedia wiki, neither is your mail address. For the wikimedia-l mailing list
you
will have to provide a mail address and after confirmation mailman will mail you a password. If you want to sign up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ you will have to provide a mail address
and
pick a password yourself. Currently their is no link between https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ accounts and any account at any
Wikimedia
wiki, nor is their link with mail addresses, just like it as with the wikimedia-l mailing list. A phabricator ticket requesting SSO or Oauth
1.0
or Oauth 2.0 can be found at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124691
.
Currently there are no resources available for writing an Oauth 1.0
plugin
for Wikimedia Discourse, neither are there resources available for
moving
MediaWiki authentification from Oauth 1.0 to Oauth 2.0. As said, SSO or Oauth is a 'nice to have' and doesn't have to block a succesful pilot.
Secure communication is a must. The Discourse installation is now configured to default to use SSL, so you will always see https://.
Here is a short list of places where the Discourse installation can be discussed:
- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discourse
- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Discourse
- https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124690
and of course at the wikimedia-l mailing list and at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/.
Best regards,
Ad Huikeshoven _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
-- Chris "Jethro" Schilling I JethroBT (WMF) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:I_JethroBT_(WMF) Community Organizer, Wikimedia Foundation https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Home _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
--
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Is there any progress on finding a mailing list that likes to be guinnea pig (a.k.a. innovation leader) and try it out? I don't think it has to be an alternative for this particular mailing list in this phase, any mailing list of some size would do.
Lodewijk
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Erik Bernhardson <ebernhardson@wikimedia.org
wrote:
The instance looks to be in a 'SHUTOFF' state, this has happened before (to other instances) for a variety of reasons, such as a vm moving between hosts and something goes wrong. There arn't any labs admins around right now, i'll have one look tomorrow morning and turn it back on.
On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Àlex Hinojo alexhinojo@gmail.com wrote:
+1 502 to me also
2016-02-08 6:48 GMT+01:00 Chris Schilling cschilling@wikimedia.org:
Hey Ad,
I'm getting a 502 Bad Gateway error when trying to access https://discourse.wmflabs.org/. Not sure if this is a general error
with
wmflabs or something specific to Discourse.
- Jethro
On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Ad Huikeshoven ad@wikimedia.nl
wrote:
Hello readers of wikimedia-l,
One of the outcomes of the 'better thankspam' thread was to
experiment
with
a pilot installationg of Discourse. This has been set up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ by Erik Bernhardson. In the past weeks a couple of dozen of people have signed in and have
been
taking a look around. In a recent thread on wikimedia-l Fæ posted
results
of SQL queries of number of users thanked and number of users
thanking
on
different wikis. On Discourse users can like (by clicking a heart) for individual
posts.
Number of hearts received and number of hearts given are by default
and
automatically counted by Discourse, and these numbers are public, see https://discourse.wmflabs.org/users?period=yearly.
For the Wikimedia Discourse installation to be a succesful pilot it
has
to
be a real alternative for the wikimedia-l mailing list. Users want to
read
posts in their mail, and want to be able to reply to posts by mail,
without
having to visit the site. Users who have signed up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ will receive new posts by default in
their
mailbox. Mail preferences can be individually set. Wikimedia
Discourse
users can reply by mail to posts received by mail. Members of
Wikimedia
Discourse can mail new posts. Please let me know if anything is
missing
at
Wikimedia Discourse that the current wikimedia-l mailing list does
have.
Sign up for an account at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ to discover
the
extras Discourse offers. Wikimedia Discourse users can earn barnstars
for
example, isn't that nice?
Please note that by subscribing to the wikimedia-l mailing list your mailing list subscription isn't linked to any account at any
Wikimedia
wiki, neither is your mail address. For the wikimedia-l mailing list
you
will have to provide a mail address and after confirmation mailman
will
mail you a password. If you want to sign up at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ you will have to provide a mail
address
and
pick a password yourself. Currently their is no link between https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ accounts and any account at any
Wikimedia
wiki, nor is their link with mail addresses, just like it as with the wikimedia-l mailing list. A phabricator ticket requesting SSO or
Oauth
1.0
or Oauth 2.0 can be found at
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124691
.
Currently there are no resources available for writing an Oauth 1.0
plugin
for Wikimedia Discourse, neither are there resources available for
moving
MediaWiki authentification from Oauth 1.0 to Oauth 2.0. As said, SSO
or
Oauth is a 'nice to have' and doesn't have to block a succesful
pilot.
Secure communication is a must. The Discourse installation is now configured to default to use SSL, so you will always see https://.
Here is a short list of places where the Discourse installation can
be
discussed:
- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discourse
- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Discourse
- https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124690
and of course at the wikimedia-l mailing list and at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/.
Best regards,
Ad Huikeshoven _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
-- Chris "Jethro" Schilling I JethroBT (WMF) <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:I_JethroBT_(WMF)%3E
Community Organizer, Wikimedia Foundation https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Home _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Is there any progress on finding a mailing list that likes to be guinnea pig (a.k.a. innovation leader) and try it out? I don't think it has to be an alternative for this particular mailing list in this phase, any mailing list of some size would do.
wikisource-l was interested, but is concerned about whether high fidelity dumps of Discourse could be made available in a standard format.
The instance is back up after a labs admin restarted the instance for me. Everything started correctly on boot as expected.
On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 11:44 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Is there any progress on finding a mailing list that likes to be guinnea pig (a.k.a. innovation leader) and try it out? I don't think it has to be an alternative for this particular mailing list in this phase, any
mailing
list of some size would do.
wikisource-l was interested, but is concerned about whether high fidelity dumps of Discourse could be made available in a standard format.
-- John Vandenberg
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