In last 2 years I have contacted every help section from AWB talk page, Ubuntu help forum etc. Trying this medium as well: Can someone tell me how to use AWB on Ubuntu?
It's been several years since I used AWB for anything serious, precisely because it only runs under Windows.
The conventional advice is to run it in a windows emulator, such as Wine, Parallels or Virtualbox. Folks talk about porting it, but I suspect this will never happen.
Fae On 28 Dec 2015 10:36, "Tito Dutta" trulytito@gmail.com wrote:
In last 2 years I have contacted every help section from AWB talk page, Ubuntu help forum etc. Trying this medium as well: Can someone tell me how to use AWB on Ubuntu? _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Yes, that's right, Wine, Q4Wine and PlayonLinux don't work.
On 28 December 2015 at 16:09, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
It's been several years since I used AWB for anything serious, precisely because it only runs under Windows.
The conventional advice is to run it in a windows emulator, such as Wine, Parallels or Virtualbox. Folks talk about porting it, but I suspect this will never happen.
Fae On 28 Dec 2015 10:36, "Tito Dutta" trulytito@gmail.com wrote:
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I have also managed to make it work under Wine on Ubuntu in the past, but I would stress: this is a HIGHLY frustrating process, it requires many rounds of updates and incantations that add up to literally hours of work. I would not encourage anyone to do it unless they are BOTH already familiar with setting up Wine, AND have a very compelling reason to run it on Linux.
My understanding is that while AWB is freely licensed, it is very heavily dependent on Microsoft's proprietary DotNet framework. Getting an up-to-date version of DotNet working under Linux is the real killer.
However, AWB is tremendously useful software. In addition to supporting many efforts to improve the quality of wiki content, it can be invaluable in running community-oriented projects. It was a central tool in the 6 week Writing Wikipedia Articles course I have run 4 times, and will run again in the spring. The existence of AWB opens a great many opportunities in addressing the challenges in running projects that could address Wikipedia's social problems.
Perhaps this is a good area for an ambitious coder to apply for a Wikimedia grant? Asaf, can you speak to whether that might be a worthwhile proposal, and what kinds of considerations might make it an attractive project to fund? -Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]]
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 2:54 AM, Tito Dutta trulytito@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, that's right, Wine, Q4Wine and PlayonLinux don't work.
On 28 December 2015 at 16:09, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
It's been several years since I used AWB for anything serious, precisely because it only runs under Windows.
The conventional advice is to run it in a windows emulator, such as Wine, Parallels or Virtualbox. Folks talk about porting it, but I suspect this will never happen.
Fae On 28 Dec 2015 10:36, "Tito Dutta" trulytito@gmail.com wrote:
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I have recently been able to make it work under WINE, and have updated the documentation page accordingly[1]. It did take a series of winetricks(1) incantations to get it to work. It's quite brittle. In particular, make sure you're specifying WINARCH=32.
A.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Mono_an...
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
It's been several years since I used AWB for anything serious, precisely because it only runs under Windows.
The conventional advice is to run it in a windows emulator, such as Wine, Parallels or Virtualbox. Folks talk about porting it, but I suspect this will never happen.
Fae On 28 Dec 2015 10:36, "Tito Dutta" trulytito@gmail.com wrote:
In last 2 years I have contacted every help section from AWB talk page, Ubuntu help forum etc. Trying this medium as well: Can someone tell me how to use AWB on Ubuntu? _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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I got it to work on Ubuntu 14.04 by approximately this method. It's INCREDIBLY long winded, you have to download about a gigabyte of stuff from Microsoft, one file didn't exist at the listed download site any more and I had to get a questionable copy off someone's "saved stuff" web directory, and after all that a pile of stuff doesn't work properly. *However*, it is usable for real work without getting a Windows box to run it on.
On 28 December 2015 at 11:52, Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org wrote:
I have recently been able to make it work under WINE, and have updated the documentation page accordingly[1]. It did take a series of winetricks(1) incantations to get it to work. It's quite brittle. In particular, make sure you're specifying WINARCH=32.
A.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Mono_an...
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
It's been several years since I used AWB for anything serious, precisely because it only runs under Windows.
The conventional advice is to run it in a windows emulator, such as Wine, Parallels or Virtualbox. Folks talk about porting it, but I suspect this will never happen.
Fae On 28 Dec 2015 10:36, "Tito Dutta" trulytito@gmail.com wrote:
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AWB is made in C#.
C# runs in .NET.
.NET is like a virtual machine to abstract the layer of the operating system.
.NET runs in Windows doesn't run in Linux based OS.
This is sufficient to say that in other operating systems there is the need to have another virtual machine that wraps .NET simulating a Windows environment.
It means a virtual machine running another virtual machine running this software.
This configuration is really hard and requires some additional technical knowledge.
Why I say this, probably well-known, statements?
Because this stack offers something that can run AWB but reduces a lot the reliability of the software and surely the efficiency.
As Asaf says, Wine needs to be set like a 32 bit Windows architecture, so even if you are running a 64 bit, the virtual environment needs to reduce this functionality.
And for text processing it can be a considerable reduction.
Kind regards
On 28.12.2015 21:55, David Gerard wrote:
I got it to work on Ubuntu 14.04 by approximately this method. It's INCREDIBLY long winded, you have to download about a gigabyte of stuff from Microsoft, one file didn't exist at the listed download site any more and I had to get a questionable copy off someone's "saved stuff" web directory, and after all that a pile of stuff doesn't work properly. *However*, it is usable for real work without getting a Windows box to run it on.
On 28 December 2015 at 11:52, Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org wrote:
I have recently been able to make it work under WINE, and have updated the documentation page accordingly[1]. It did take a series of winetricks(1) incantations to get it to work. It's quite brittle. In particular, make sure you're specifying WINARCH=32.
A.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Mono_an...
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
It's been several years since I used AWB for anything serious, precisely because it only runs under Windows.
The conventional advice is to run it in a windows emulator, such as Wine, Parallels or Virtualbox. Folks talk about porting it, but I suspect this will never happen.
Fae On 28 Dec 2015 10:36, "Tito Dutta" trulytito@gmail.com wrote:
In last 2 years I have contacted every help section from AWB talk page, Ubuntu help forum etc. Trying this medium as well: Can someone tell me how to use AWB on Ubuntu? _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com wrote:
AWB is made in C#.
C# runs in .NET.
.NET is like a virtual machine to abstract the layer of the operating system.
.NET runs in Windows doesn't run in Linux based OS.
Not really. Apart from Mono, we have .NET Core https://dotnet.github.io/ now. (However, I’m not saying AWB will run under either of those options or even that it would be easy to make it work there.)
-- [[cs:User:Mormegil | Petr Kadlec]]
On 29.12.2015 10:10, Petr Kadlec wrote:
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com wrote:
AWB is made in C#.
C# runs in .NET.
.NET is like a virtual machine to abstract the layer of the operating system.
.NET runs in Windows doesn't run in Linux based OS.
Not really. Apart from Mono, we have .NET Core https://dotnet.github.io/ now. (However, I’m not saying AWB will run under either of those options or even that it would be easy to make it work there.)
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I have read that AWB is created using Microsoft Visual C#.
The big question mark is to know if something created on a .NET using the original framework can run in .NET Core.
But it could interesting to ask to the developers if they would migrate it and probably solving the big discrepancy and the big "operating system divide".
Kind regards
I used to use AWB for lists but now I am running on a Mac so I don't have it anymore. I still can generate lists with Catscan though, so you may want to check that tool out if you haven't already.
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Tito Dutta trulytito@gmail.com wrote:
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