Hello, I just added this proposition : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikultur
Here is the summary : Currently there are still some digital works which can not be published on a wikimedia projects, because none of them have the right editorial guideline to host them. Things like original poetry, songs, essays, theses, novels, etc., wether they were already previously published or not.
It would be great to see wikimedia launch a project to host this kind of works.
The no original research for wikipedia is understable and very important of course. Now what's relevant for an encyclopedia may not fit others projects which need different editorial guidelines. In existing projects Wikibooks is too pedagogic works oriented, and wikisource won't accept works which were not previously published elsewhere.
Moreover, one may argue that it would be a good way to softly evacuate originals works from wikipedia, with a message like "your contribution contains original claims, wikipedia is not the place to publish this kind of content, but you could share your original work on wikikultur". Then eventualy, the wikipedia article could use wikikultur arcticles as references. This would give access to authoring information (eventually anonymous/IP claims), and all avantages of a free/libre work on a wiki. For example, we may have statistics on articles, so we can check if it's not used as a reference of an over represented point of view in an wikipedia article.
On artistics topics, I think it would really help to boost the free-libre culture movement to have a place where every artists can directly experiment what it means to share and build together, with an audience intertwinned with other mediawiki projects.
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It looks like other proposed projects would be included in such a project, like Wikiessay (I just discovered and I'm gonna read others projects description, sorry), but others aspect don't seem - at first glance - to be covered, like artistics topics.
Kind regards, mathieu
The scope of Wikibooks could be expanded to include essays, poems, novels, etc. and not only pedagogical content (especially that we have Wikiversity who also focus on pedagogic stuff).
JP
Le 27 nov. 2012 10:37, "Mathieu Stumpf" psychoslave@culture-libre.org a écrit :
Hello, I just added this proposition :
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikultur
Here is the summary : Currently there are still some digital works which can not be published
on a wikimedia projects, because none of them have the right editorial guideline to host them. Things like original poetry, songs, essays, theses, novels, etc., wether they were already previously published or not.
It would be great to see wikimedia launch a project to host this kind of
works.
The no original research for wikipedia is understable and very important
of course. Now what's relevant for an encyclopedia may not fit others projects which need different editorial guidelines. In existing projects Wikibooks is too pedagogic works oriented, and wikisource won't accept works which were not previously published elsewhere.
Moreover, one may argue that it would be a good way to softly evacuate
originals works from wikipedia, with a message like "your contribution contains original claims, wikipedia is not the place to publish this kind of content, but you could share your original work on wikikultur". Then eventualy, the wikipedia article could use wikikultur arcticles as references. This would give access to authoring information (eventually anonymous/IP claims), and all avantages of a free/libre work on a wiki. For example, we may have statistics on articles, so we can check if it's not used as a reference of an over represented point of view in an wikipedia article.
On artistics topics, I think it would really help to boost the free-libre
culture movement to have a place where every artists can directly experiment what it means to share and build together, with an audience intertwinned with other mediawiki projects.
It looks like other proposed projects would be included in such a
project, like Wikiessay (I just discovered and I'm gonna read others projects description, sorry), but others aspect don't seem - at first glance - to be covered, like artistics topics.
Kind regards, mathieu
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Le 2012-11-28 05:30, JP Béland a écrit :
The scope of Wikibooks could be expanded to include essays, poems, novels, etc. and not only pedagogical content (especially that we have Wikiversity who also focus on pedagogic stuff).
JP
That would do the trick I think. The biggest point I can see in such a scope extension is a community rejection, some people may be afraid that it would drown what they like about wikibook in other various works. Of course portals can manage visibility of specific themes.
Asking for contributor opinions is logic and indispensable, and that's what we should do if no one is against this project.
Le 27 nov. 2012 10:37, "Mathieu Stumpf" psychoslave@culture-libre.org a écrit :
Hello, I just added this proposition :
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikultur
Here is the summary : Currently there are still some digital works which can not be published
on a wikimedia projects, because none of them have the right editorial guideline to host them. Things like original poetry, songs, essays, theses, novels, etc., wether they were already previously published or not.
It would be great to see wikimedia launch a project to host this kind of
works.
The no original research for wikipedia is understable and very important
of course. Now what's relevant for an encyclopedia may not fit others projects which need different editorial guidelines. In existing projects Wikibooks is too pedagogic works oriented, and wikisource won't accept works which were not previously published elsewhere.
Moreover, one may argue that it would be a good way to softly evacuate
originals works from wikipedia, with a message like "your contribution contains original claims, wikipedia is not the place to publish this kind of content, but you could share your original work on wikikultur". Then eventualy, the wikipedia article could use wikikultur arcticles as references. This would give access to authoring information (eventually anonymous/IP claims), and all avantages of a free/libre work on a wiki. For example, we may have statistics on articles, so we can check if it's not used as a reference of an over represented point of view in an wikipedia article.
On artistics topics, I think it would really help to boost the free-libre
culture movement to have a place where every artists can directly experiment what it means to share and build together, with an audience intertwinned with other mediawiki projects.
It looks like other proposed projects would be included in such a
project, like Wikiessay (I just discovered and I'm gonna read others projects description, sorry), but others aspect don't seem - at first glance - to be covered, like artistics topics.
Kind regards, mathieu
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