Hello,
I am new to the mailing list and more generaly on wikipedia as contributor and as student in wikiversity.
I did not know about WikiJournals as part of Wikiversity. My only remark will be that the wikiveristy PhD program is in poor shape. I was lost in the various tools I had to use and broken links. Most if not all conversation are old-ish and doesn't say the PhD program is active or working at all. (French wikiveristy is in much better shape).
I am certain that the implementation of wikijournal as sister project will have more impact for WikiJournal. My point is with a better english wikiversity, both could have more impact.
I think, forking wikijournals outside wikiverity will have a bad impact on wikiversity.
Also, is it possible to write a publication in the journal without prior PhD? Can publication in the wikijournal help obtain the wikiveristy PhD?
Thanks!
Amirouche ~ amz3
Hi Amirouche,
It's definitely possible to write articles in WikiJournals without a PhD ( example https://doi.org/10.15347/wjs/2018.006). External peer reviewers are invited in the same way whether the author is some top prof or an undergrad.
I definitely think that WikiJournal articles can be useful for Wikiversity courses (example https://doi.org/10.15347/wjm/2017.006, example https://doi.org/10.15347/wjs/2018.005). Bu I think that the two projects have different technical needs.
As far as I know, Wikiversity is currently not accredited in any country - a process usually tightly regulated by governments (Australia example https://www.teqsa.gov.au/). Wikiversity is therefore more like P2PU https://www.p2pu.org/en/about/ than Open University http://www.openuniversity.edu/courses, in that it can offer courses and provide completion badges, but not yet award formal PhDs. I don't now whether there are any users working on it, but accreditation for Wikiversity courses would probably be most easily achieved by partnering with established accredited universities, a bit like coursera https://www.coursera.org/degrees, but that would still be a pretty major project.
Hope that is useful info! All the best, Thomas
On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 15:39, Amirouche Boubekki < amirouche.boubekki@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I am new to the mailing list and more generaly on wikipedia as contributor and as student in wikiversity.
I did not know about WikiJournals as part of Wikiversity. My only remark will be that the wikiveristy PhD program is in poor shape. I was lost in the various tools I had to use and broken links. Most if not all conversation are old-ish and doesn't say the PhD program is active or working at all. (French wikiveristy is in much better shape).
I am certain that the implementation of wikijournal as sister project will have more impact for WikiJournal. My point is with a better english wikiversity, both could have more impact.
I think, forking wikijournals outside wikiverity will have a bad impact on wikiversity.
Also, is it possible to write a publication in the journal without prior PhD? Can publication in the wikijournal help obtain the wikiveristy PhD?
Thanks!
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Indeed... there is no wikiversity phd. Nor is one planned in the near future in any language, as far as I know. Getting WV courses onto accredited platforms seems like a step towards alignment (or perhaps first: working w/ an existing set of accredited courses and getting their materials onto WV as a non-accredited space to find and learn from those materials!)
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 8:35 PM Thomas Shafee thomas.shafee@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Amirouche,
It's definitely possible to write articles in WikiJournals without a PhD ( example https://doi.org/10.15347/wjs/2018.006). External peer reviewers are invited in the same way whether the author is some top prof or an undergrad.
I definitely think that WikiJournal articles can be useful for Wikiversity courses (example https://doi.org/10.15347/wjm/2017.006, example https://doi.org/10.15347/wjs/2018.005). Bu I think that the two projects have different technical needs.
As far as I know, Wikiversity is currently not accredited in any country - a process usually tightly regulated by governments (Australia example https://www.teqsa.gov.au/). Wikiversity is therefore more like P2PU https://www.p2pu.org/en/about/ than Open University http://www.openuniversity.edu/courses, in that it can offer courses and provide completion badges, but not yet award formal PhDs. I don't now whether there are any users working on it, but accreditation for Wikiversity courses would probably be most easily achieved by partnering with established accredited universities, a bit like coursera https://www.coursera.org/degrees, but that would still be a pretty major project.
Hope that is useful info! All the best, Thomas
On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 15:39, Amirouche Boubekki < amirouche.boubekki@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I am new to the mailing list and more generaly on wikipedia as
contributor
and as student in wikiversity.
I did not know about WikiJournals as part of Wikiversity. My only remark will be that the wikiveristy PhD program is in poor shape. I was lost in the various tools I had to
use
and broken links. Most if not all conversation are old-ish and doesn't say the PhD program
is
active or working at all. (French wikiveristy is in much better shape).
I am certain that the implementation of wikijournal as sister project
will
have more impact for WikiJournal. My point is with a better english wikiversity, both could have more
impact.
I think, forking wikijournals outside wikiverity will have a bad impact
on
wikiversity.
Also, is it possible to write a publication in the journal without prior PhD? Can publication in the wikijournal help obtain the wikiveristy PhD?
Thanks!
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