Hi all, I'd like to try participating on this list again. Now that there's much more context about me with respect to Wikimedia projects, I'd appreciate a chance to re-introduce myself:
Hi, I'm Wil Sinclair. Strictly speaking, I've been a Wikipedian for 7 years, but I've been an active Wikipedian for less than 3 months. In that time I believe I've seen a lot, but I still have a lot to learn.
I like to contribute to diverse articles in an effort to learn more about things that I'm unfamiliar with. My interests include electronic music production, home automation, web technologies, somewhat warped cinema, and ADHD, which is a disorder that affects me and my family profoundly. Currently I'm doing research on "wild west" figures such as Jesse James with the goal of contributing to relevant articles. It's a topic I didn't know much about beforehand, and I see it as an opportunity to learn.
I'm also working on adding more sound samples to Commons in an effort to make share-alike music production easier.
A lot of you may know me from my participation on Wikipediocracy. I'd like to clarify my position on this community. I believe that there are a lot of constructive things that are discussed there. On the other hand, some members engage in extreme snark and doxxing, which I have very vocally disapproved of from day one. I believe that the discussions there occasionally devolve to hate speech, which I find intolerable. There is a current discussion about these issues on my blog: http://wllm.com/2014/07/11/greg-kohs-and-bigotry/.
I'm concerned that some members of the Wikipedia community can't discuss issues on-wiki- whether they are currently blocked or simply don't feel comfortable doing so. To address this problem, I created a site called Offwiki. We're currently talking about issues such as child protection, which is an issue that I brought up here, as well. Some Wikipedians are concerned that their on-wiki usernames may be used on offwiki.org; I am happy to create and block (if desired) such usernames on request. My personal email is wllm@wllm.com.
You can always rely on me to stick to my values, be outspoken, and act in good faith, although not always obviously so as my MO seems to be uncommon in this very vocal part of the Wikipedia community. I'll also be mindful of the number of posts I send to this list; many complained that I sent too many mails in a short period in the past. My apologies.
I hope to get to know all of you better, and vice versa.
Best. ,Wil
Eh, this thread is garbage and you should be put on indefinite moderation here, in my opinion. The offwiki.org thread was borderline already... now you're spamming your latest drama-fueled blog post. Enough is enough.
A do over would involve you quietly and peacefully editing Commons and the English Wikipedia and other Wikimedia wikis for a year or two and getting to know and better understand the Wikimedia movement. But I don't think you're interested in that, you seem to instead be interested in needlessly creating drama. Consequently, it seems prudent to shut you down.
MZMcBride
Drama is a two way process. It requires response to a perceived provocation. You have just provided this response. With no response, no drama. At worst just a soliloquy in the background. Cheers, Peter
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Eh, this thread is garbage and you should be put on indefinite moderation here, in my opinion. The offwiki.org thread was borderline already... now you're spamming your latest drama-fueled blog post. Enough is enough.
A do over would involve you quietly and peacefully editing Commons and the English Wikipedia and other Wikimedia wikis for a year or two and getting to know and better understand the Wikimedia movement. But I don't think you're interested in that, you seem to instead be interested in needlessly creating drama. Consequently, it seems prudent to shut you down.
MZMcBride
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On Jul 13, 2014 4:20 AM, "Wil Sinclair" wllm@wllm.com wrote:
Hi, I'm Wil Sinclair. Strictly speaking, I've been a Wikipedian for 7 years, but I've been an active Wikipedian for less than 3 months. In that time I believe I've seen a lot, but I still have a lot to learn.
Hi, Wil! Your name is a bit strange. Why not double 'l' ar the end? What does your name mean? Are you a British?
And you must be a relative of Sir Clive Sinclair! Aren't you? I'd like to meet him, may you arrange that for me?
Oh, I've just realized that you are a noble, like Sir Clive is! That's really cool! How often are you eating caviar? Do you own a yacht? How much did it cost? Are you traveling often across the Atlantic in your yacht or you prefer Pacific, as you are presently on the West Coast?
May you share with us how those seven years of being Wikipedian passed? What's the difference between being a Wikipedian and being an active Wikipedian from your perspective?
I like to contribute to diverse articles in an effort to learn more about things that I'm unfamiliar with. My interests include electronic music production, home automation, web technologies, somewhat warped cinema, and ADHD, which is a disorder that affects me and my family profoundly. Currently I'm doing research on "wild west" figures such as Jesse James with the goal of contributing to relevant articles. It's a topic I didn't know much about beforehand, and I see it as an opportunity to learn.
Have you started writing articles on Wikipedia? If so, may you show us your contributions? Are you using proper works as sources for your contributions?
I am somewhat familiar with web technologies... compiling web servers for 15 years to get better performance (and hating Java for the same period of time). What are your interests in particular?
To be honest, I think that ADHD is a bullshit, used as an a bad excuse by mature people for their own unwillingness to work on themselves, as well as to rationalize their oppression of children.
I'm also working on adding more sound samples to Commons in an effort to make share-alike music production easier.
That's great! May you show us the examples of the sound samples you uploaded?
A lot of you may know me from my participation on Wikipediocracy. I'd like to clarify my position on this community. I believe that there are a lot of constructive things that are discussed there. On the other hand, some members engage in extreme snark and doxxing, which I have very vocally disapproved of from day one. I believe that the discussions there occasionally devolve to hate speech, which I find intolerable. There is a current discussion about these issues on my blog: http://wllm.com/2014/07/11/greg-kohs-and-bigotry/.
What is Wikipediocracy? Who is Greg Kohs and why is he relevant to us?
I created a site called Offwiki.
That's great! Off wiki activities are extremely important for our movement! It doesn't need to lead to content creation. Just socializing outside is a great thing to do! It helps us to stay connected and to overcome our conflicts.
I suppose you'll create a platform for off wiki events on your site. That will be really useful, for sure! I really don't like the fact that we depend on Facebook for Wikimedia events.
I hope to get to know all of you better...
If you don't mind, I would talk with Wikimedia Serbia folk to call you to present your platform for off wiki activities. I am sure they are interested in sharing their events and being able to see when Wikimedia events are going to happen in CEE region, without having to consult various sites for that.
So, see you soon!
On 13/07/14 15:07, Milos Rancic wrote:
On Jul 13, 2014 4:20 AM, "Wil Sinclair" wllm@wllm.com wrote:
Please, let us drop this subject.
Richard.
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