Hi everyone,
**Summary: I am delighted to invite you to join me for two upcoming office hours, where I’ll answer community questions and share updates on the Foundation’s work.**
It’s been a busy few weeks around the Wikimedia Foundation offices. We shared our 2016-2017 annual plan, finished our quarterly reviews, and attended Wikimedia Conference 2016 in Berlin with the Wikimedia affiliates. [1]
In Berlin, I had the chance to do one of my favorite things: sit with Wikimedians, listen, debate, and plan for the future. Of course, Berlin is just one gathering, and there are thousands of other perspectives out there. I want to hear more of these perspectives, and so I’m looking forward to hosting two office hours over the coming weeks.
We plan to hold a traditional office hours on IRC, and will also experiment with a video Q&A. We hope these different formats will make it easier for more people to participate using their preferred communications channels. We’ve chosen two different time zones, with the goal of reaching as many people as possible. They are as follows:
*Video session* *This session will be recorded, and the video will be posted on Commons/Meta. Due to video conferencing limitations, we encourage advance questions.* Wednesday, 11 May 2016 00:00-1:00 UTC | 17:00-18:00 PDT [2]
*IRC session* *This session follows the May monthly metrics meeting.[4] Like other office hours, it will be held in #Wikimedia-office on Freenode.* Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:00-20:00 UTC | 12:00-13:00 PDT [3]
We’re also collecting questions in advance for those who can’t make either of those sessions. We’ve created a page on Meta where you can leave questions or comments, check the details on the location of each session: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_...
Please share this invitation with others you think may be interested!
I look forward to speaking soon, Katherine
Translation notice - This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_...
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2016 [2] Time converter link: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=0&min=00&s... [3] Time converter link: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=19&min=00&... [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Metrics_and_activities_meetings
Greetings,
A quick reminder that the first office hours with Wikimedia Foundation’s interim Executive Director, Katherine Maher, is coming up in the next day (roughly).
Apologies for confusion on the time, here is the time for the first session, being held via video: Thursday, 12 May 2016 - 00:00-01:00 UTC | Wednesday, 11 May 2016 - 17:00-18:00 PDT
You are invited to ask questions and offer suggestions to Katherine on this Meta-Wiki page (which also has additional information on the office hours): https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_...
You can join us and ask questions during the session via Blue Jeans: https://bluejeans.com/198076339
The session will also be available for streaming on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XazXyL-Ybjo
We look forward to talking with folks soon! -greg
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--- Gregory Varnum Communications Strategist (Contractor) Wikimedia Foundation gvarnum@wikimedia.org
On May 4, 2016, at 8:47 PM, Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
**Summary: I am delighted to invite you to join me for two upcoming office hours, where I’ll answer community questions and share updates on the Foundation’s work.**
It’s been a busy few weeks around the Wikimedia Foundation offices. We shared our 2016-2017 annual plan, finished our quarterly reviews, and attended Wikimedia Conference 2016 in Berlin with the Wikimedia affiliates. [1]
In Berlin, I had the chance to do one of my favorite things: sit with Wikimedians, listen, debate, and plan for the future. Of course, Berlin is just one gathering, and there are thousands of other perspectives out there. I want to hear more of these perspectives, and so I’m looking forward to hosting two office hours over the coming weeks.
We plan to hold a traditional office hours on IRC, and will also experiment with a video Q&A. We hope these different formats will make it easier for more people to participate using their preferred communications channels. We’ve chosen two different time zones, with the goal of reaching as many people as possible. They are as follows:
*Video session* *This session will be recorded, and the video will be posted on Commons/Meta. Due to video conferencing limitations, we encourage advance questions.* Wednesday, 11 May 2016 00:00-1:00 UTC | 17:00-18:00 PDT [2]
*IRC session* *This session follows the May monthly metrics meeting.[4] Like other office hours, it will be held in #Wikimedia-office on Freenode.* Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:00-20:00 UTC | 12:00-13:00 PDT [3]
We’re also collecting questions in advance for those who can’t make either of those sessions. We’ve created a page on Meta where you can leave questions or comments, check the details on the location of each session: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_...
Please share this invitation with others you think may be interested!
I look forward to speaking soon, Katherine
Translation notice - This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_...
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2016 [2] Time converter link: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=0&min=00&s... [3] Time converter link: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=19&min=00&... [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Metrics_and_activities_meetings
-- Katherine Maher
Wikimedia Foundation 149 New Montgomery Street San Francisco, CA 94105
+1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6635 +1 (415) 712 4873 kmaher@wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
A reminder that this is currently happening now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XazXyL-Ybjo - WMF Executive Director Office Hours
Regards
Seddon
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Gregory Varnum gvarnum@wikimedia.org wrote:
Greetings,
A quick reminder that the first office hours with Wikimedia Foundation’s interim Executive Director, Katherine Maher, is coming up in the next day (roughly).
Apologies for confusion on the time, here is the time for the first session, being held via video: Thursday, 12 May 2016 - 00:00-01:00 UTC | Wednesday, 11 May 2016 - 17:00-18:00 PDT
You are invited to ask questions and offer suggestions to Katherine on this Meta-Wiki page (which also has additional information on the office hours): https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_...
You can join us and ask questions during the session via Blue Jeans: https://bluejeans.com/198076339
The session will also be available for streaming on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XazXyL-Ybjo
We look forward to talking with folks soon! -greg
Translation notice - This original message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_...
Gregory Varnum Communications Strategist (Contractor) Wikimedia Foundation gvarnum@wikimedia.org
On May 4, 2016, at 8:47 PM, Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hi everyone,
**Summary: I am delighted to invite you to join me for two upcoming
office
hours, where I’ll answer community questions and share updates on the Foundation’s work.**
It’s been a busy few weeks around the Wikimedia Foundation offices. We shared our 2016-2017 annual plan, finished our quarterly reviews, and attended Wikimedia Conference 2016 in Berlin with the Wikimedia
affiliates.
[1]
In Berlin, I had the chance to do one of my favorite things: sit with Wikimedians, listen, debate, and plan for the future. Of course, Berlin
is
just one gathering, and there are thousands of other perspectives out there. I want to hear more of these perspectives, and so I’m looking forward to hosting two office hours over the coming weeks.
We plan to hold a traditional office hours on IRC, and will also
experiment
with a video Q&A. We hope these different formats will make it easier for more people to participate using their preferred communications channels. We’ve chosen two different time zones, with the goal of reaching as many people as possible. They are as follows:
*Video session* *This session will be recorded, and the video will be posted on Commons/Meta. Due to video conferencing limitations, we encourage advance questions.* Wednesday, 11 May 2016 00:00-1:00 UTC | 17:00-18:00 PDT [2]
*IRC session* *This session follows the May monthly metrics meeting.[4] Like other
office
hours, it will be held in #Wikimedia-office on Freenode.* Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:00-20:00 UTC | 12:00-13:00 PDT [3]
We’re also collecting questions in advance for those who can’t make
either
of those sessions. We’ve created a page on Meta where you can leave questions or comments, check the details on the location of each session:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_...
Please share this invitation with others you think may be interested!
I look forward to speaking soon, Katherine
Translation notice - This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_...
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2016 [2] Time converter link:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=0&min=00&s...
[3] Time converter link:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=19&min=00&...
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Metrics_and_activities_meetings
-- Katherine Maher
Wikimedia Foundation 149 New Montgomery Street San Francisco, CA 94105
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Thanks for the link. Handful of quick points:
1. The sound quality is poor, to a level where I find it quite hard to work out what is being said half the time especially as the speech is quite rapid. It would be worth investing in a bit of better audio kit for these videoed discussions. If the video is being captured remotely, better results might be possible by having a local capture, at least of the audio.
2. It would be great to have a tiny index as a text note on youtube at the time of publication so that, say, on an hour+ long meeting like this it would be possible to skip around the video to when new questions are addressed. Though the session notes are useful https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_2016_office_hours/Video-based_session_notes, there is no relationship to timing.
3. The video has been published on a standard youtube license. Can those that manage these videos apply a free license that would be allowed on Wikimedia Commons as a default please?
As a side note, there was quite a few minutes of in-crowd banter at the start, an awkward drop-out mid-way for a couple of minutes and another award minute or two at the end where the meeting was being accidentally recorded to youtube after it ended. It might be good to edit these out of the published version considering it is a public record.
Thanks, Fae
On 12 May 2016 at 01:12, Joseph Seddon jseddon@wikimedia.org wrote:
A reminder that this is currently happening now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XazXyL-Ybjo - WMF Executive Director Office Hours
Regards
Seddon
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Gregory Varnum gvarnum@wikimedia.org wrote:
Greetings,
A quick reminder that the first office hours with Wikimedia Foundation’s interim Executive Director, Katherine Maher, is coming up in the next day (roughly).
Apologies for confusion on the time, here is the time for the first session, being held via video: Thursday, 12 May 2016 - 00:00-01:00 UTC | Wednesday, 11 May 2016 - 17:00-18:00 PDT
You are invited to ask questions and offer suggestions to Katherine on this Meta-Wiki page (which also has additional information on the office hours): https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_...
You can join us and ask questions during the session via Blue Jeans: https://bluejeans.com/198076339
The session will also be available for streaming on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XazXyL-Ybjo
We look forward to talking with folks soon! -greg
Translation notice - This original message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_...
Gregory Varnum Communications Strategist (Contractor) Wikimedia Foundation gvarnum@wikimedia.org
On May 4, 2016, at 8:47 PM, Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hi everyone,
**Summary: I am delighted to invite you to join me for two upcoming
office
hours, where I’ll answer community questions and share updates on the Foundation’s work.**
It’s been a busy few weeks around the Wikimedia Foundation offices. We shared our 2016-2017 annual plan, finished our quarterly reviews, and attended Wikimedia Conference 2016 in Berlin with the Wikimedia
affiliates.
[1]
In Berlin, I had the chance to do one of my favorite things: sit with Wikimedians, listen, debate, and plan for the future. Of course, Berlin
is
just one gathering, and there are thousands of other perspectives out there. I want to hear more of these perspectives, and so I’m looking forward to hosting two office hours over the coming weeks.
We plan to hold a traditional office hours on IRC, and will also
experiment
with a video Q&A. We hope these different formats will make it easier for more people to participate using their preferred communications channels. We’ve chosen two different time zones, with the goal of reaching as many people as possible. They are as follows:
*Video session* *This session will be recorded, and the video will be posted on Commons/Meta. Due to video conferencing limitations, we encourage advance questions.* Wednesday, 11 May 2016 00:00-1:00 UTC | 17:00-18:00 PDT [2]
*IRC session* *This session follows the May monthly metrics meeting.[4] Like other
office
hours, it will be held in #Wikimedia-office on Freenode.* Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:00-20:00 UTC | 12:00-13:00 PDT [3]
We’re also collecting questions in advance for those who can’t make
either
of those sessions. We’ve created a page on Meta where you can leave questions or comments, check the details on the location of each session:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_...
Please share this invitation with others you think may be interested!
I look forward to speaking soon, Katherine
Translation notice - This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_...
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2016 [2] Time converter link:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=0&min=00&s...
[3] Time converter link:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=19&min=00&...
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Metrics_and_activities_meetings
-- Katherine Maher
Wikimedia Foundation 149 New Montgomery Street San Francisco, CA 94105
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-- Seddon
*Advancement Associate (Community Engagement)* *Wikimedia Foundation*
1. The sound quality was fine from what I saw and heard. I was on a desktop computer using the Blue Jeans thing (which had the YouTube video playing) and IRC chat -- and etherpad
2. Session notes were done live in Wiki Markup format on the etherpad which resulted in a truly great cooperative effort to list detailed minutes. It allowed a super quick publish to Wiki which was ideal. I was really happy to see that and hope it can be a model going forward. I would suggest having a "template" of information pre-filled out to facilitate the notes going forward.
Having a timekeeper would probably necessitate having one person designated to put time-stamps on main points. I think if there's consensus then cooperatively this could be done? It seems like babysteps here -- having transparent, detailed notes that are quickly turned around -- might be the priority over the time-stamps but this is a logical and reasonable request, I agree.
3. Agree on licensing default for published videos. Ideally the video should be embedded on the Minutes page as a supporting resource.
An additional comment:
I'm new to both Wiki-l and learning more about the governance of WMF. I was very happy with this meeting and the efforts made by Katherine to be transparent and up front. However, I think this is a lot of pressure and from my new perspective it is seeming to come down on one competent person. I think this is a tough and somewhat problematic strategic position for any one person to be in, and for any institution to rely upon. I hope that there are more people who can take leadership roles at WMF who would share this load. Assuming the consensus is for this approach to governance.
- Erika
*Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle Secretary, Wikimedia NYC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the link. Handful of quick points:
- The sound quality is poor, to a level where I find it quite hard to
work out what is being said half the time especially as the speech is quite rapid. It would be worth investing in a bit of better audio kit for these videoed discussions. If the video is being captured remotely, better results might be possible by having a local capture, at least of the audio.
- It would be great to have a tiny index as a text note on youtube at
the time of publication so that, say, on an hour+ long meeting like this it would be possible to skip around the video to when new questions are addressed. Though the session notes are useful < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_...
,
there is no relationship to timing.
- The video has been published on a standard youtube license. Can
those that manage these videos apply a free license that would be allowed on Wikimedia Commons as a default please?
As a side note, there was quite a few minutes of in-crowd banter at the start, an awkward drop-out mid-way for a couple of minutes and another award minute or two at the end where the meeting was being accidentally recorded to youtube after it ended. It might be good to edit these out of the published version considering it is a public record.
Thanks, Fae
Brill Lyle wp.brilllyle@gmail.com wrote:
- The sound quality was fine from what I saw and heard. I was on a desktop
computer using the Blue Jeans thing (which had the YouTube video playing) and IRC chat -- and etherpad
[…]
I listened in on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XazXyL-Ybjo pointed to by Joseph Seddon (NB not a video of https://www.youtube.com/user/WikimediaFoundation), and the sound quality isn't "fine" for me. For benchmarking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCt1BwWE2gA is a broadcast from another celestial body.
On YouTube there are videos of non-professionals explaining how to comb one's hair or peel a potato that have far better sound quality, and they neither have to convey complex con- cepts that require the viewer to listen closely nor the eight-digit resources to buy expensive equipment, but a headset or a lapel microphone seems to make quite a differ- ence.
Tim
Hi there,
Thanks for the feedback, and a few thoughts:
1. This is the first time we've done a video office hours and we have some things to learn about how to produce them effectively. I'm sorry the audio on the YouTube recording wasn't great - we can make that a priority in the future. I know I also tend to speak quickly, which can be difficult for people who do not speak English natively, for example. This is something I will keep working on. We might make other tweaks to the format - for example, we might do a smaller room next time, or closer to the webcam.
2. Time stamps would definitely make it easier to skip around in the video. Perhaps we can work something similar out for the future. Solid suggestion.
3. Noted on licensing. We can see what the options are there.
4. BrillLyle, rest easy! We have an excellent tean here at the WMF, including people in both formal and informal leadership roles, from individual contributors to executive team members. Some of them are well known to community, others are strong internally in the Foundation. I hope community members will increasingly see these leaders engaging publicly, through greater participation at events and conferences, in metrics meetings, and on-wiki and elsewhere. On the current executive team alone, I believe we have more than 25 years combined experience at the WMF, which I expect compares favorably to past teams. I am very grateful to know many colleagues well through our work together over the past two years, and have great confidence in their skills and judgement.
Yesterday was an experiment, and we'll do another, more traditional IRC office hours next week following the May metrics meeting. It should be different in style and speed; I'm looking forward to it. A reminder of the details:
*IRC session* This session follows the May monthly metrics meeting https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Metrics_and_activities_meetings. Like other office hours, it will be held in #Wikimedia-office irc://irc.freenode.net/Wikimedia-officeconnect https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#Wikimedia-office on irc.freednode.org irc://irc.freenode.net/. Thursday, 26 May 2016 - 19:00 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=19&min=00&sec=0&day=26&month=05&year=2016 -20:00 UTC http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=20&min=00&sec=0&day=26&month=05&year=2016 | 12:00-13:00 PDT
Cheers, Katherine
On Thursday, May 12, 2016, Brill Lyle wp.brilllyle@gmail.com wrote:
- The sound quality was fine from what I saw and heard. I was on a desktop
computer using the Blue Jeans thing (which had the YouTube video playing) and IRC chat -- and etherpad
- Session notes were done live in Wiki Markup format on the etherpad which
resulted in a truly great cooperative effort to list detailed minutes. It allowed a super quick publish to Wiki which was ideal. I was really happy to see that and hope it can be a model going forward. I would suggest having a "template" of information pre-filled out to facilitate the notes going forward.
Having a timekeeper would probably necessitate having one person designated to put time-stamps on main points. I think if there's consensus then cooperatively this could be done? It seems like babysteps here -- having transparent, detailed notes that are quickly turned around -- might be the priority over the time-stamps but this is a logical and reasonable request, I agree.
- Agree on licensing default for published videos. Ideally the video
should be embedded on the Minutes page as a supporting resource.
An additional comment:
I'm new to both Wiki-l and learning more about the governance of WMF. I was very happy with this meeting and the efforts made by Katherine to be transparent and up front. However, I think this is a lot of pressure and from my new perspective it is seeming to come down on one competent person. I think this is a tough and somewhat problematic strategic position for any one person to be in, and for any institution to rely upon. I hope that there are more people who can take leadership roles at WMF who would share this load. Assuming the consensus is for this approach to governance.
- Erika
*Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle Secretary, Wikimedia NYC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the link. Handful of quick points:
- The sound quality is poor, to a level where I find it quite hard to
work out what is being said half the time especially as the speech is quite rapid. It would be worth investing in a bit of better audio kit for these videoed discussions. If the video is being captured remotely, better results might be possible by having a local capture, at least of the audio.
- It would be great to have a tiny index as a text note on youtube at
the time of publication so that, say, on an hour+ long meeting like this it would be possible to skip around the video to when new questions are addressed. Though the session notes are useful <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_...
,
there is no relationship to timing.
- The video has been published on a standard youtube license. Can
those that manage these videos apply a free license that would be allowed on Wikimedia Commons as a default please?
As a side note, there was quite a few minutes of in-crowd banter at the start, an awkward drop-out mid-way for a couple of minutes and another award minute or two at the end where the meeting was being accidentally recorded to youtube after it ended. It might be good to edit these out of the published version considering it is a public record.
Thanks, Fae
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One additional follow-up on the video-based session.
The notes are on Meta-Wiki: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_...
Additionally, the video recording has been uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. We edited out the unrelated parts mentioned earlier, and attempted to improve the audio. Thank you to Brendan in WMF Office IT for his help with this. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Foundation_Interim_Executi...
As Katherine said, thank you to everyone that participated, and we look forward to talking with folks at the IRC session later this month.
-greg
--- Gregory Varnum Communications Strategist (Contractor) Wikimedia Foundation http://www.wikimediafoundation.org/ gvarnum@wikimedia.org mailto:gvarnum@wikimedia.org
On May 12, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi there,
Thanks for the feedback, and a few thoughts:
- This is the first time we've done a video office hours and we have some
things to learn about how to produce them effectively. I'm sorry the audio on the YouTube recording wasn't great - we can make that a priority in the future. I know I also tend to speak quickly, which can be difficult for people who do not speak English natively, for example. This is something I will keep working on. We might make other tweaks to the format - for example, we might do a smaller room next time, or closer to the webcam.
- Time stamps would definitely make it easier to skip around in the video.
Perhaps we can work something similar out for the future. Solid suggestion.
Noted on licensing. We can see what the options are there.
BrillLyle, rest easy! We have an excellent tean here at the WMF,
including people in both formal and informal leadership roles, from individual contributors to executive team members. Some of them are well known to community, others are strong internally in the Foundation. I hope community members will increasingly see these leaders engaging publicly, through greater participation at events and conferences, in metrics meetings, and on-wiki and elsewhere. On the current executive team alone, I believe we have more than 25 years combined experience at the WMF, which I expect compares favorably to past teams. I am very grateful to know many colleagues well through our work together over the past two years, and have great confidence in their skills and judgement.
Yesterday was an experiment, and we'll do another, more traditional IRC office hours next week following the May metrics meeting. It should be different in style and speed; I'm looking forward to it. A reminder of the details:
*IRC session* This session follows the May monthly metrics meeting https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Metrics_and_activities_meetings. Like other office hours, it will be held in #Wikimedia-office irc://irc.freenode.net/Wikimedia-officeconnect https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#Wikimedia-office on irc.freednode.org irc://irc.freenode.net/. Thursday, 26 May 2016 - 19:00 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=19&min=00&sec=0&day=26&month=05&year=2016 -20:00 UTC http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=20&min=00&sec=0&day=26&month=05&year=2016 | 12:00-13:00 PDT
Cheers, Katherine
On Thursday, May 12, 2016, Brill Lyle wp.brilllyle@gmail.com wrote:
- The sound quality was fine from what I saw and heard. I was on a desktop
computer using the Blue Jeans thing (which had the YouTube video playing) and IRC chat -- and etherpad
- Session notes were done live in Wiki Markup format on the etherpad which
resulted in a truly great cooperative effort to list detailed minutes. It allowed a super quick publish to Wiki which was ideal. I was really happy to see that and hope it can be a model going forward. I would suggest having a "template" of information pre-filled out to facilitate the notes going forward.
Having a timekeeper would probably necessitate having one person designated to put time-stamps on main points. I think if there's consensus then cooperatively this could be done? It seems like babysteps here -- having transparent, detailed notes that are quickly turned around -- might be the priority over the time-stamps but this is a logical and reasonable request, I agree.
- Agree on licensing default for published videos. Ideally the video
should be embedded on the Minutes page as a supporting resource.
An additional comment:
I'm new to both Wiki-l and learning more about the governance of WMF. I was very happy with this meeting and the efforts made by Katherine to be transparent and up front. However, I think this is a lot of pressure and from my new perspective it is seeming to come down on one competent person. I think this is a tough and somewhat problematic strategic position for any one person to be in, and for any institution to rely upon. I hope that there are more people who can take leadership roles at WMF who would share this load. Assuming the consensus is for this approach to governance.
- Erika
*Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle Secretary, Wikimedia NYC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the link. Handful of quick points:
- The sound quality is poor, to a level where I find it quite hard to
work out what is being said half the time especially as the speech is quite rapid. It would be worth investing in a bit of better audio kit for these videoed discussions. If the video is being captured remotely, better results might be possible by having a local capture, at least of the audio.
- It would be great to have a tiny index as a text note on youtube at
the time of publication so that, say, on an hour+ long meeting like this it would be possible to skip around the video to when new questions are addressed. Though the session notes are useful <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director/May_...
,
there is no relationship to timing.
- The video has been published on a standard youtube license. Can
those that manage these videos apply a free license that would be allowed on Wikimedia Commons as a default please?
As a side note, there was quite a few minutes of in-crowd banter at the start, an awkward drop-out mid-way for a couple of minutes and another award minute or two at the end where the meeting was being accidentally recorded to youtube after it ended. It might be good to edit these out of the published version considering it is a public record.
Thanks, Fae
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On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Brill Lyle wp.brilllyle@gmail.com wrote:
- Session notes were done live in Wiki Markup format on the etherpad which
resulted in a truly great cooperative effort to list detailed minutes. It allowed a super quick publish to Wiki which was ideal.
For those who aren't aware, it's now possible to bring etherpad native formatting (e.g. bold, bullet lists) into a wiki page. You just have to use etherpad's "Export to HTML" feature, and then paste that result into Visual Editor.
If the formatting is heavy on headings, wiki format is probably better. Otherwise, native formatting tends to be easier to deal with during the meeting itself (e.g. indenting nested bullet lists, WYSIWYG bold, etc.).
It's great that we now have both options. Thanks VE team!
Kevin
Personally I'm not a huge fan of the visual editor -- but during the presentation it was sort of awesome how quickly the notes shifted into Wiki Markup....
Anything that onboards folks into using more Wiki Markup, I'm a fan of that.
But good to know this for going forward.
- Erika
*Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle Secretary, Wikimedia NYC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Kevin Smith ksmith@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Brill Lyle wp.brilllyle@gmail.com wrote:
- Session notes were done live in Wiki Markup format on the etherpad
which
resulted in a truly great cooperative effort to list detailed minutes. It allowed a super quick publish to Wiki which was ideal.
For those who aren't aware, it's now possible to bring etherpad native formatting (e.g. bold, bullet lists) into a wiki page. You just have to use etherpad's "Export to HTML" feature, and then paste that result into Visual Editor.
If the formatting is heavy on headings, wiki format is probably better. Otherwise, native formatting tends to be easier to deal with during the meeting itself (e.g. indenting nested bullet lists, WYSIWYG bold, etc.).
It's great that we now have both options. Thanks VE team!
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