that? Vietnamese Wikipedia also have a discussion about sitenotice promotion to Facebook at < https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Th%E1%BA%A3o_lu%E1% BA%ADn/Qu%E1%BA%A3ng_b%C3%A1_trang_Facebook_%22Wikipedia_ ti%E1%BA%BFng_Vi%E1%BB%87t%22 > . If this is OK, I think we have no reason to reject it. Thank you! Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy Vietnamese Wikimedian _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

do > that? Vietnamese Wikipedia also have a discussion about sitenotice > promotion to Facebook at < > https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Th%E1%BA%A3o_lu%E1% > BA%ADn/Qu%E1%BA%A3ng_b%C3%A1_trang_Facebook_%22Wikipedia_ > ti%E1%BA%BFng_Vi%E1%BB%87t%22 >> . If this is OK, I think we have no reason to reject it. > Thank you! > > Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy > Vietnamese Wikimedian > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

I know it based on local consensus, but what I mean here is: those consensus valid for WMF Term of Use and others policies or not? Because

same with Wikipedia have linked with 3rd party, which is a commerical website. Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy Vietnamese Wikimedian 2018-02-28 18:52 GMT+09:00 James Heilman &lt;jmh649(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: IMO this is based on local community consensus. It is not a global > policy.

James > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Minata Hatsune < > minatahatsune(a)gmail.com&gt;

wrote: > > Hello, I have a question: is it legal and valid for Wikipedia >> > communities

put promotion links to their Facebook pages on public space as Main >> > Page

or > >> Sitenotice? >> >> I see many of Wikimedia projects doing this, as Indonesia Wikipedia, >> > Arabic > >> Wikipedia, etc... Their Facebooks page also have blue checkmark of >> > Facebook > >> as verified. >> >> All what I concern is: Facebook is a commerical website, we put a link >> > as

"official" to them, will it same with Wikipedia biased for Facebook and >> violated the NPOV policy? And in finally: is it OK if other projects >> > can

do > >> that? Vietnamese Wikipedia also have a discussion about sitenotice >> promotion to Facebook at < >> https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Th%E1%BA%A3o_lu%E1% >> BA%ADn/Qu%E1%BA%A3ng_b%C3%A1_trang_Facebook_%22Wikipedia_ >> ti%E1%BA%BFng_Vi%E1%BB%87t%22 >> >>> . If this is OK, I think we have no reason to reject it. >>> >> Thank you! >> >> Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy >> Vietnamese Wikimedian >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >> wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >> wiki/Wikimedia-l >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> , >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > > > > -- > James Heilman > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

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of Internet users. Many communities, user groups, and chapters have some kind of formal presence on Facebook -- "groups" or "pages". Directing visitors to your wiki to *your own wiki's* presence on this other major platform, i.e. a direct link to your group/page on Facebook, is absolutely fine. It is *quite* different from, say, just linking to www.facebook.com or explicitly endorsing it as a platform ("Join Facebook! It's great!") in general. As you note, a number of communities have done or are doing this. Especially for smaller communities, the impact of such link placement can be a significant driver of traffic (i.e. readers!) to your community group/page on Facebook, which itself is important for outreach, awareness, and volunteer recruitment, and therefore is mission-aligned. Cheers, Asaf On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:06 AM Jimmy Wales &lt;jimmywales(a)wikia-inc.com&gt; wrote: Speaking only for myself, not as a member of the board, I don't know of > any legal or other reason why this should not be done. I think we > should be very careful about links or appearance of endorsement > especially on article pages, but outreach to people in the world should > take place wherever we find a willing and useful audience. > > > > On 2/28/18 6:29 AM, Minata Hatsune wrote: > > I know it based on local consensus, but what I mean here is: those >> consensus valid for WMF Term of Use and others policies or not? >> Because >> >> it > > same with Wikipedia have linked with 3rd party, which is a commerical >> website. >> >> Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy >> Vietnamese Wikimedian >> >> 2018-02-28 18:52 GMT+09:00 James Heilman &lt;jmh649(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: >> >> IMO this is based on local community consensus. It is not a global >> policy. >> James >> >>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Minata Hatsune < >>> >>> minatahatsune(a)gmail.com&gt; >> wrote: >> >>> Hello, I have a question: is it legal and valid for Wikipedia >>> communities >>> >> put promotion links to their Facebook pages on public space as Main >> >>> Page >>> >> or >> >>> Sitenotice? >>>> >>>> I see many of Wikimedia projects doing this, as Indonesia Wikipedia, >>>> >>>> Arabic >>> >>> Wikipedia, etc... Their Facebooks page also have blue checkmark of >>>> >>>> Facebook >>> >>> as verified. >>>> >>>> All what I concern is: Facebook is a commerical website, we put a >>>> link >>>> >>>> as >>> >> "official" to them, will it same with Wikipedia biased for Facebook >> and >> >>> violated the NPOV policy? And in finally: is it OK if other projects >>>> >>>> can >>> >> do >> >>> that? Vietnamese Wikipedia also have a discussion about sitenotice >>>> promotion to Facebook at < >>>> https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Th%E1%BA%A3o_lu%E1% >>>> BA%ADn/Qu%E1%BA%A3ng_b%C3%A1_trang_Facebook_%22Wikipedia_ >>>> ti%E1%BA%BFng_Vi%E1%BB%87t%22 >>>> >>>> . If this is OK, I think we have no reason to reject it. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy >>>> Vietnamese Wikimedian >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >>>> wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >>>> wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>> New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/ma >>>> ilman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >>>> , >>>> <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsu >>>> bscribe> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> James Heilman >>> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >>> wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >>> wiki/Wikimedia-l >>> New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/ma >>> ilman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>> <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> , >> >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik i/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik i/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________