Hi Andreas,

This blog post was corrected earlier this morning PST:

https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/04/04/strike-against-freedom-panorama/

The sentence you mentioned now reads:

The Court decided that Swedish copyright law does not allow Wikimedia Sverige to post images in its online database offentligkonst.se (a website / database covering publicly placed art) without permission from the artist.

There are also correction notes at the top and end of the post, and we’ve updated our social media posts from the @Wikipedia Facebook and Twitter accounts to acknowledge and reflect this correction.

Thank you,

Sam

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Lilburne lilburne@tygers-of-wrath.net wrote:

Its not "a large-scale online database" per se. Its the commercial aspect of it that is at issue.

On 05/04/2016 19:06, Andreas Kolbe wrote:

...

Report in The Guardian:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/05/wikimedias-free-photo-database-...

Wikimedia Sweden press release:

http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/pressreleases/hoegsta-domstolen-vaeljer-att-kry...

WMF blog post:

https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/04/04/strike-against-freedom-panorama/

I would note here that in my opinion, the WMF blog post and some journalists who seem to have read it materially misrepresent the decision made, when they say or imply that

<quote> The Court decided that Swedish copyright law does not allow individuals or organizations to post images online of publicly-placed artwork without permission from the artist. <end of quote>

Supreme Court Justice Lars Edlund has expressly contradicted that. He's made very clear that the decision is specifically about a large-scale online database, and does not impact users who want to post a picture to Facebook or Instagram.

http://www.svt.se/kultur/konst/brottsligt-sprida-bilder-av-offentligt-konst-...

http://www.hogstadomstolen.se/Domstolar/hogstadomstolen/Avgoranden/2016/2016...

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You still haven't got it right. What you can't do is publish a database of images for commercial use.

If I were to go to Sweden take photos of every publicly placed work of art and put them on a website there wouldn't be an issue. If I were to put them on a website and announce that they could be used by commercial enterprises for any purpose then I would have a problem.

Its the creation of a database of images for commercial reuse that is the problem.

On 05/04/2016 20:40, Samantha Lien wrote:

Hi Andreas,

This blog post was corrected earlier this morning PST:

https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/04/04/strike-against-freedom-panorama/https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/04/04/strike-against-freedom-panorama/

The sentence you mentioned now reads:

The Court decided that Swedish copyright law does not allow Wikimedia Sverige to post images in its online database offentligkonst.se http://offentligkonst.se (a website / database covering publicly placed art) without permission from the artist.

There are also correction notes at the top and end of the post, and we’ve updated our social media posts from the @Wikipedia Facebook and Twitter accounts to acknowledge and reflect this correction.

Thank you,

Sam

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Lilburne <lilburne@tygers-of-wrath.net mailto:lilburne@tygers-of-wrath.net> wrote:

Its not "a large-scale online database" per se. Its the commercial
aspect of it that is at issue.


 On 05/04/2016 19:06, Andreas Kolbe wrote:

    Report in The Guardian:

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/05/wikimedias-free-photo-database-of-artworks-violates-copyright-court-rules

    Wikimedia Sweden press release:

    http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/pressreleases/hoegsta-domstolen-vaeljer-att-krympa-det-offentliga-rummet-istaellet-foer-att-gaa-paa-wikimedia-sveriges-linje-1360834

    WMF blog post:

    https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/04/04/strike-against-freedom-panorama/

    I would note here that in my opinion, the WMF blog post and some
    journalists who seem to have read it materially misrepresent
    the decision
    made, when they say or imply that

    <quote>
    The Court decided that Swedish copyright law does not allow
    individuals or
    organizations to post images online of publicly-placed artwork
    without
    permission from the artist.
    <end of quote>

    Supreme Court Justice Lars Edlund has expressly contradicted
    that. He's
    made very clear that the decision is specifically about a
    large-scale
    online database, and does not impact users who want to post a
    picture to
    Facebook or Instagram.

    http://www.svt.se/kultur/konst/brottsligt-sprida-bilder-av-offentligt-konst-pa-natet

    http://www.hogstadomstolen.se/Domstolar/hogstadomstolen/Avgoranden/2016/2016-04-04%20%C3%96%20849-15%20Beslut.pdf

    Andreas
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