Greg has a legitimate grievance here; within the last few minutes it's come to my attention just how substantial it is. Something needs to be said in reply (and apologies written to the candidates who participated).
What transpired is this: WikiVoices currently has a shortage of reliable audio editors. Under those circumstances I was reluctant to host an election episode when one was suggested, and agreed to do so only after making arrangements to prevent the pitfalls that have delayed publication in the past. Obviously those preventative measures were not effective.
Unfortunately I am not an audio editor. Nor do I possess copies of the raw files. If I can obtain them I will convert to .ogg format and post promptly.
Please accept my sincere regrets.
-Durova
I think Adam's explanation as phrased leaves out a little bit of the reasoning behind not releasing the audio; from conversations on Skype, my understanding is that he refuses to release it to you directly. I believe (and hope) that he is still willing to release it publicly in some way, and I think that should be done. I don't understand why it hasn't been already, or why Adam doesn't send it to someone else for audio editing if he's unable to do it, or even why audio editing should be necessary. I doubt that the Greg's darker suspicions will prove true, but I can certainly see why it would be frustrating for him: he's much more reasonable in voice chat than over text, and if the audio were widely circulated it's possible he would have come in a few places higher in the election.
At any rate, as has been said elsewhere, I don't think that "WikiVoices" retains the credibility to attempt this again - but the idea of a voice debate is still an interesting one. Perhaps other groups (the WMF, the Signpost, Wikizine, etc.) will take up this task in the next round.
Nathan
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Nathannawrich@gmail.com wrote: [snip]
certainly see why it would be frustrating for him: he's much more reasonable in voice chat than over text, and if the audio were widely circulated it's possible he would have come in a few places higher in the election.
Mr. Kohs may have also placed higher had a swimsuit review been included as part of the process.
Obviously we need a swimsuit review.
2009/8/19 Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com:
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Nathannawrich@gmail.com wrote:
certainly see why it would be frustrating for him: he's much more reasonable in voice chat than over text, and if the audio were widely circulated it's possible he would have come in a few places higher in the election.
Mr. Kohs may have also placed higher had a swimsuit review been included as part of the process. Obviously we need a swimsuit review.
Earlier today I was looking at promotional photos for the Borat movie. I'm afraid Mr Kohs just doesn't have the moustache to pull it off. But, it's up to the voters.
- d.
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Nathannawrich@gmail.com wrote: [snip]
certainly see why it would be frustrating for him: he's much more reasonable in voice chat than over text, and if the audio were widely circulated it's possible he would have come in a few places higher in the election.
Mr. Kohs may have also placed higher had a swimsuit review been included as part of the process.
He did improve his placing over last year. ;-)
Ec
2009/8/19 Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net:
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Nathannawrich@gmail.com wrote: [snip]
certainly see why it would be frustrating for him: he's much more reasonable in voice chat than over text, and if the audio were widely circulated it's possible he would have come in a few places higher in the election.
Mr. Kohs may have also placed higher had a swimsuit review been included as part of the process.
He did improve his placing over last year. ;-)
Yes, he beat the fascist and the person whose sole reason for wanting to be on the board was a love of Wikipedia. Congratulations!
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