Given the conversations about Bosnia and SOPA, I felt this was worth mentioning.
There are a number of stories online about the government limiting Internet access within Iran:
http://mashable.com/2012/01/06/iran-intranet-tests/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57354267-83/iran-squeezes-web-surfers-prepa...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203513604577142713916386248.ht...
Please note that I'm not volunteering to help with any actions (sorry) and not (yet) necessarily advocating for or against action. However, I felt it was worth mentioning topic given recent discussions and the obvious conflict this presents for Wikimedia's interest in accessing any parts of Iran.
I also have it from a reliable source that their government is indeed planning on a total Internet shut off in two weeks. I'm not comfortable sharing more on a public listserv, but if you have a logical reason for needing to know, email me off-list and I'll share more. :)
Based on how I learned this, I suspect bloggers and others will be reporting on this soon (if they aren't already). Feel free to consider it wild speculation until then (and even after that if you'd like - I don't mind either way), but I'm confident in the source and that their government is preparing for these actions. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail before it gets out of hand.
In the interest of getting discussion going, I'll refrain from sharing my own personal take on what's likely to happen. :)
-greg aka varnent
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Unfortunately, the kind of political action editors wished to promote in situations like Italy or the USA wouldn't have the same effect in more restrictive countries like China or Iran.
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Gregory Varnum gregory.varnum@gmail.comwrote:
Given the conversations about Bosnia and SOPA, I felt this was worth mentioning.
There are a number of stories online about the government limiting Internet access within Iran:
http://mashable.com/2012/01/06/iran-intranet-tests/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57354267-83/iran-squeezes-web-surfers-prepa...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203513604577142713916386248.ht...
Please note that I'm not volunteering to help with any actions (sorry) and not (yet) necessarily advocating for or against action. However, I felt it was worth mentioning topic given recent discussions and the obvious conflict this presents for Wikimedia's interest in accessing any parts of Iran.
I also have it from a reliable source that their government is indeed planning on a total Internet shut off in two weeks. I'm not comfortable sharing more on a public listserv, but if you have a logical reason for needing to know, email me off-list and I'll share more. :)
Based on how I learned this, I suspect bloggers and others will be reporting on this soon (if they aren't already). Feel free to consider it wild speculation until then (and even after that if you'd like - I don't mind either way), but I'm confident in the source and that their government is preparing for these actions. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail before it gets out of hand.
In the interest of getting discussion going, I'll refrain from sharing my own personal take on what's likely to happen. :)
-greg aka varnent
Gregory Varnum Lead, Aequalitas Project Lead Administrator, WikiQueer Founding Principal, VarnEnt @GregVarnum fb.com/GregVarnum
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On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Mono mium monomium@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately, the kind of political action editors wished to promote in situations like Italy or the USA wouldn't have the same effect in more restrictive countries like China or Iran.
This is not accurate. People are inspired by actions in faraway places, and acheive remarkable things. A finnish master of a secret society was ambassador to France while also Benjamin Franklin wa there, and they had discourses on the possibility of Finnish independence (following the precepts of Continental US independence). Amusingly enough Franklin thought that Finnish independence was a pipe dream. But the secret society did achieve in putting in force the motions that do make Finland an independent motion. The point there is, that had there not been the US "ideal" of independence, the whole plot might have been lost, and there need never have been any [[Anjala conspiracy]].
Perhaps if Iran makes this official publicly, or they actually do it, the Foundation, or maybe some volunteers, can respond via the blog? At least that gets it into the discourse - but doesn't commit the Foundation itself to anything.
I'm optimistic it will be resolved first through political back channels - but you never know...
On Jan 11, 2012, at 12:08 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Mono mium monomium@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately, the kind of political action editors wished to promote in situations like Italy or the USA wouldn't have the same effect in more restrictive countries like China or Iran.
This is not accurate. People are inspired by actions in faraway places, and acheive remarkable things. A finnish master of a secret society was ambassador to France while also Benjamin Franklin wa there, and they had discourses on the possibility of Finnish independence (following the precepts of Continental US independence). Amusingly enough Franklin thought that Finnish independence was a pipe dream. But the secret society did achieve in putting in force the motions that do make Finland an independent motion. The point there is, that had there not been the US "ideal" of independence, the whole plot might have been lost, and there need never have been any [[Anjala conspiracy]].
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