Hi, everyone.
Somehow I was directed to this project in a search on Google: http://www.wikipedia.or.ke/
Does anybody know what is that project?
It seems to have a large content in English but pages doesn't mention authorship properly. I am assuming it uses Wikipedia content in violation of copyrights.
It also uses the Wikipedia logo improperly. Not sure if a mirror can do that...
Regards, Teles
I took a look at this. From my brief investigation, this appears to be a good-faith effort by someone to locally host a Kenyan version of Wikipedia. The donation button properly links to https://donate.wikimedia.org. The server geolocates to Estonia. I am forwarding this report to Legal. I hope that formal legal action is not necessary and that if the maintainers of the website are responsive that a mutually agreeable settlement can be arranged.
Thanks for finding this, Teles.
Pine
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Lucas Teles teleswiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, everyone.
Somehow I was directed to this project in a search on Google: http://www.wikipedia.or.ke/
Does anybody know what is that project?
It seems to have a large content in English but pages doesn't mention authorship properly. I am assuming it uses Wikipedia content in violation of copyrights.
It also uses the Wikipedia logo improperly. Not sure if a mirror can do that...
Regards, Teles
--
*Lucas Teles*
- Steward at Wikimedia Foundation. Administrator *
*at Portuguese Wikipedia.*https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Teles Contact me: [image: Facebook] http://www.facebook.com/telesr < https://www.facebook.com/telesr http://www.facebook.com/telesr > [image: Twitter] http://www.twitter.com/Lucas_Teles < https://twitter.com/Lucas_Teles > [image: Skype] < lucastelesr > Mobile: < 55 71 9374 2725 > I am a Wikimedia volunteer. Wikimedia Foundation can not be held responsible for my actions. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
http://www.wikipedia.or.ke/ now has ads dancing around the screen, the donate link is gone, and the privacy policy and general disclaimer have been removed.
It only has 107,391 articles according to special:statistics.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I took a look at this. From my brief investigation, this appears to be a good-faith effort by someone to locally host a Kenyan version of Wikipedia. The donation button properly links to https://donate.wikimedia.org. The server geolocates to Estonia. I am forwarding this report to Legal. I hope that formal legal action is not necessary and that if the maintainers of the website are responsive that a mutually agreeable settlement can be arranged.
Thanks for finding this, Teles.
Pine
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Lucas Teles teleswiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, everyone.
Somehow I was directed to this project in a search on Google: http://www.wikipedia.or.ke/
Does anybody know what is that project?
It seems to have a large content in English but pages doesn't mention authorship properly. I am assuming it uses Wikipedia content in violation of copyrights.
It also uses the Wikipedia logo improperly. Not sure if a mirror can do that...
Regards, Teles
--
*Lucas Teles*
- Steward at Wikimedia Foundation. Administrator *
*at Portuguese Wikipedia.*https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Teles Contact me: [image: Facebook] http://www.facebook.com/telesr < https://www.facebook.com/telesr http://www.facebook.com/telesr > [image: Twitter] http://www.twitter.com/Lucas_Teles < https://twitter.com/Lucas_Teles > [image: Skype] < lucastelesr > Mobile: < 55 71 9374 2725 > I am a Wikimedia volunteer. Wikimedia Foundation can not be held responsible for my actions. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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wouldnt wikipedia kenya be at ke.wikipedia.org not wikipedia.or.ke
On 10 April 2016 at 19:31, John Mark Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.wikipedia.or.ke/ now has ads dancing around the screen, the donate link is gone, and the privacy policy and general disclaimer have been removed.
It only has 107,391 articles according to special:statistics.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I took a look at this. From my brief investigation, this appears to be a good-faith effort by someone to locally host a Kenyan version of
Wikipedia.
The donation button properly links to https://donate.wikimedia.org. The server geolocates to Estonia. I am forwarding this report to Legal. I
hope
that formal legal action is not necessary and that if the maintainers of the website are responsive that a mutually agreeable settlement can be arranged.
Thanks for finding this, Teles.
Pine
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Lucas Teles teleswiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, everyone.
Somehow I was directed to this project in a search on Google: http://www.wikipedia.or.ke/
Does anybody know what is that project?
It seems to have a large content in English but pages doesn't mention authorship properly. I am assuming it uses Wikipedia content in
violation
of copyrights.
It also uses the Wikipedia logo improperly. Not sure if a mirror can do that...
Regards, Teles
--
*Lucas Teles*
- Steward at Wikimedia Foundation. Administrator *
*at Portuguese Wikipedia.*https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Teles Contact me: [image: Facebook] http://www.facebook.com/telesr < https://www.facebook.com/telesr http://www.facebook.com/telesr > [image: Twitter] http://www.twitter.com/Lucas_Teles < https://twitter.com/Lucas_Teles > [image: Skype] < lucastelesr > Mobile: < 55 71 9374 2725 > I am a Wikimedia volunteer. Wikimedia Foundation can not be held responsible for my actions. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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No - Swahili is the language spoken in Kenya (officially), although other languages are used too. There is no "Kenyan Wikipedia" as far as I'm aware! On 11 Apr 2016 02:36, "Gnangarra" gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
wouldnt wikipedia kenya be at ke.wikipedia.org not wikipedia.or.ke
On 10 April 2016 at 19:31, John Mark Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.wikipedia.or.ke/ now has ads dancing around the screen, the donate link is gone, and the privacy policy and general disclaimer have been removed.
It only has 107,391 articles according to special:statistics.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I took a look at this. From my brief investigation, this appears to be
a
good-faith effort by someone to locally host a Kenyan version of
Wikipedia.
The donation button properly links to https://donate.wikimedia.org.
The
server geolocates to Estonia. I am forwarding this report to Legal. I
hope
that formal legal action is not necessary and that if the maintainers
of
the website are responsive that a mutually agreeable settlement can be arranged.
Thanks for finding this, Teles.
Pine
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Lucas Teles teleswiki@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi, everyone.
Somehow I was directed to this project in a search on Google: http://www.wikipedia.or.ke/
Does anybody know what is that project?
It seems to have a large content in English but pages doesn't mention authorship properly. I am assuming it uses Wikipedia content in
violation
of copyrights.
It also uses the Wikipedia logo improperly. Not sure if a mirror can
do
that...
Regards, Teles
--
*Lucas Teles*
- Steward at Wikimedia Foundation. Administrator *
*at Portuguese Wikipedia.*https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Teles Contact me: [image: Facebook] http://www.facebook.com/telesr < https://www.facebook.com/telesr http://www.facebook.com/telesr > [image: Twitter] http://www.twitter.com/Lucas_Teles < https://twitter.com/Lucas_Teles > [image: Skype] < lucastelesr > Mobile: < 55 71 9374 2725 > I am a Wikimedia volunteer. Wikimedia Foundation can not be held responsible for my actions. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
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Wikipedia goes by languages, never by countries. (There's nds-nl.wikipedia.org, where nl kind of stands for “Netherlands”, but it's still a language variant for Netherlands. In any case, it's very much an anomaly.)
Wikimedia Kenya would be ke.wikimedia.org, if it existed.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2016-04-11 4:35 GMT+03:00 Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com:
wouldnt wikipedia kenya be at ke.wikipedia.org not wikipedia.or.ke
On 10 April 2016 at 19:31, John Mark Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.wikipedia.or.ke/ now has ads dancing around the screen, the donate link is gone, and the privacy policy and general disclaimer have been removed.
It only has 107,391 articles according to special:statistics.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I took a look at this. From my brief investigation, this appears to be
a
good-faith effort by someone to locally host a Kenyan version of
Wikipedia.
The donation button properly links to https://donate.wikimedia.org.
The
server geolocates to Estonia. I am forwarding this report to Legal. I
hope
that formal legal action is not necessary and that if the maintainers
of
the website are responsive that a mutually agreeable settlement can be arranged.
Thanks for finding this, Teles.
Pine
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Lucas Teles teleswiki@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi, everyone.
Somehow I was directed to this project in a search on Google: http://www.wikipedia.or.ke/
Does anybody know what is that project?
It seems to have a large content in English but pages doesn't mention authorship properly. I am assuming it uses Wikipedia content in
violation
of copyrights.
It also uses the Wikipedia logo improperly. Not sure if a mirror can
do
that...
Regards, Teles
--
*Lucas Teles*
- Steward at Wikimedia Foundation. Administrator *
*at Portuguese Wikipedia.*https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Teles Contact me: [image: Facebook] http://www.facebook.com/telesr < https://www.facebook.com/telesr http://www.facebook.com/telesr > [image: Twitter] http://www.twitter.com/Lucas_Teles < https://twitter.com/Lucas_Teles > [image: Skype] < lucastelesr > Mobile: < 55 71 9374 2725 > I am a Wikimedia volunteer. Wikimedia Foundation can not be held responsible for my actions. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
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Hoi, Sorry for some nit-picking. It is only one variation of NDS it is not a variation of NL. The problem with NDS is that there has been a formal adoption of one variant of NDS that is only for Germany. Thanks, GerardM
On 11 April 2016 at 09:34, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Wikipedia goes by languages, never by countries. (There's nds-nl.wikipedia.org, where nl kind of stands for “Netherlands”, but it's still a language variant for Netherlands. In any case, it's very much an anomaly.)
Wikimedia Kenya would be ke.wikimedia.org, if it existed.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2016-04-11 4:35 GMT+03:00 Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com:
wouldnt wikipedia kenya be at ke.wikipedia.org not wikipedia.or.ke
On 10 April 2016 at 19:31, John Mark Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com
wrote:
http://www.wikipedia.or.ke/ now has ads dancing around the screen, the donate link is gone, and the privacy policy and general disclaimer have been removed.
It only has 107,391 articles according to special:statistics.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I took a look at this. From my brief investigation, this appears to
be
a
good-faith effort by someone to locally host a Kenyan version of
Wikipedia.
The donation button properly links to https://donate.wikimedia.org.
The
server geolocates to Estonia. I am forwarding this report to Legal. I
hope
that formal legal action is not necessary and that if the maintainers
of
the website are responsive that a mutually agreeable settlement can
be
arranged.
Thanks for finding this, Teles.
Pine
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Lucas Teles teleswiki@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi, everyone.
Somehow I was directed to this project in a search on Google: http://www.wikipedia.or.ke/
Does anybody know what is that project?
It seems to have a large content in English but pages doesn't
mention
authorship properly. I am assuming it uses Wikipedia content in
violation
of copyrights.
It also uses the Wikipedia logo improperly. Not sure if a mirror can
do
that...
Regards, Teles
--
*Lucas Teles*
- Steward at Wikimedia Foundation. Administrator *
*at Portuguese Wikipedia.*
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Teles
Contact me: [image: Facebook] http://www.facebook.com/telesr < https://www.facebook.com/telesr http://www.facebook.com/telesr > [image: Twitter] http://www.twitter.com/Lucas_Teles < https://twitter.com/Lucas_Teles > [image: Skype] < lucastelesr > Mobile: < 55 71 9374 2725 > I am a Wikimedia volunteer. Wikimedia Foundation can not be held responsible for my actions. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:
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Precisely: It only goes to show that it's languages and not countries :)
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2016-04-11 12:15 GMT+03:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Hoi, Sorry for some nit-picking. It is only one variation of NDS it is not a variation of NL. The problem with NDS is that there has been a formal adoption of one variant of NDS that is only for Germany. Thanks, GerardM
On 11 April 2016 at 09:34, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Wikipedia goes by languages, never by countries. (There's nds-nl.wikipedia.org, where nl kind of stands for “Netherlands”, but
it's
still a language variant for Netherlands. In any case, it's very much an anomaly.)
Wikimedia Kenya would be ke.wikimedia.org, if it existed.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2016-04-11 4:35 GMT+03:00 Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com:
wouldnt wikipedia kenya be at ke.wikipedia.org not wikipedia.or.ke
On 10 April 2016 at 19:31, John Mark Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com
wrote:
http://www.wikipedia.or.ke/ now has ads dancing around the screen,
the
donate link is gone, and the privacy policy and general disclaimer have been removed.
It only has 107,391 articles according to special:statistics.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I took a look at this. From my brief investigation, this appears to
be
a
good-faith effort by someone to locally host a Kenyan version of
Wikipedia.
The donation button properly links to https://donate.wikimedia.org
.
The
server geolocates to Estonia. I am forwarding this report to
Legal. I
hope
that formal legal action is not necessary and that if the
maintainers
of
the website are responsive that a mutually agreeable settlement can
be
arranged.
Thanks for finding this, Teles.
Pine
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Lucas Teles teleswiki@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi, everyone.
Somehow I was directed to this project in a search on Google: http://www.wikipedia.or.ke/
Does anybody know what is that project?
It seems to have a large content in English but pages doesn't
mention
authorship properly. I am assuming it uses Wikipedia content in
violation
of copyrights.
It also uses the Wikipedia logo improperly. Not sure if a mirror
can
do
that...
Regards, Teles
--
*Lucas Teles*
- Steward at Wikimedia Foundation. Administrator *
*at Portuguese Wikipedia.*
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Teles
Contact me: [image: Facebook] http://www.facebook.com/telesr < https://www.facebook.com/telesr http://www.facebook.com/telesr
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