Hi,
EFF has published this transparency report called "Who has your back" which now includes Wikimedia (I think they are referring to the Wikimedia Foundation, though).
Well, the result is slightly disappointing: https://www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-government-data-requests-2014#wikimedi...
About "fighting for users privacy in court", I think this is something we do, isn't it? Doesn't the case with the editor Diu in Greece apply?
WMF also seem to lack the publication of a transparency report.
Cristian (among other things, EFF supporter)
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Thanks for posting this, Cristian!
I have been a big fan of this campaign for several years, and have urged EFF to include Wikimedia. So pleased to see this becoming a reality! A couple observations:
- Most of the companies with 6 stars have been rated for one or more years prior. - There has been steady improvement in the companies' scores -- seeing companies like Apple, Facebook, Google, and Yahoo with 6 stars is really impressive! - The report specifically addresses the two stars Wikimedia "missed," stating that (1) it plans to publish a transparency report in July, and (2) should not be judged poorly for not having had the right opportunity to defend users in court the way the report defines it.
Onward and upward!
Pete
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocristian@gmail.comwrote:
Hi,
EFF has published this transparency report called "Who has your back" which now includes Wikimedia (I think they are referring to the Wikimedia Foundation, though).
Well, the result is slightly disappointing:
https://www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-government-data-requests-2014#wikimedi...
About "fighting for users privacy in court", I think this is something we do, isn't it? Doesn't the case with the editor Diu in Greece apply?
WMF also seem to lack the publication of a transparency report.
Cristian (among other things, EFF supporter)
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: EFFector List editor@eff.org Date: 2014-05-16 8:43 GMT+02:00 Subject: New "Who Has Your Back" report shows Internet companies competing on privacy To: Cristian Consonni kikkocristian@gmail.com
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When the Government Comes Knocking, Who Has Your Back?https://www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-government-data-requests-2014
When governments are after your personal data, which online services will stand up and defend it? In our fourth annual *Who Has Your Back* report, we look at companies' public policies and practices, so that privacy-conscious consumers can make an informed decision about who to trust with their most sensitive data. We were pleased to find out that, in a year rocked by high-profile disclosures of NSA spying reaching into our online accounts, many companies have responded by increasing their commitment to transparency, pushing back against mass surveillance, and fighting for their users. The full report<https://www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-government-data-requests-2014
goes
into extensive detail about how each company performed, and what exactly our evaluation criteria were. Public policies and commitments aren't the last word when it comes to defending your privacy, but as we trust online services with more and more of our information, it's an increasingly important component. If you're concerned about your privacy from overreaching surveillance, you'll want to know: when the government comes knocking, who has your backhttps://www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-government-data-requests-2014 ? It's Time to Defend Net Neutrality: Tell the FCC What you Think of its Proposed Regulations https://dearfcc.org/
Today the FCC met to discuss new rules that could determine the future of network neutrality. There’s been a lot of news circulating< https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/04/fccs-new-rules-could-threaten-net-neut...
about
what the FCC's plan will contain. And while we haven't seen the text of the plan yet, we know the agency is still considering a set of rules that will allow Internet providers to differentiate how we access websites. But the FCC is clearly hearing the public outcry to protect the future of the Internet. The agency announced that they are seeking comment on wider set of initiatives that would stop ISPs from setting up pay-to-play Internet fast lanes. The FCC is opening a four-month comment window to hear from people across country about how their proposed rules will effect the future of our Internet. So we must take this opportunity to speak up — early, and often. EFF has created a tool to help. Visit DearFCC.orghttps://dearfcc.org/to raise your voice and make sure the FCC is clear on this point: We don't want regulations that will turn ISPs into gatekeepers to their subscribers. EFF Updates
Victory! Chevron Withdraws Subpoenas to Anonymous Email Users Represented by EFF and EarthRights International< https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/04/long-fought-victory-anonymous-email-us...
EFF and EarthRights International represented Ecuadorian environmental activists, attorneys, and journalists fighting against the environmental damage caused by Chevron in Ecuador. After several court battles, Chevron agreed to withdraw subpoenas to Yahoo! and Google requesting extensive and troubling information about webmail users.
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Chase Bank sent letters to hundreds of adult entertainers informing them that their bank accounts would be shut down without giving a reason. Some are speculating that the Department of Justice's misguided "Operation Chokepoint" program may be behind the move.
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Digital rights management (DRM) is technology that purportedly exists to protect against copyright infringement, but in practice limits how people use and share technology they have paid for.
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The secrecy surrounding the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade agreement, and the massive opposition TPP has faced from all sides, appears to be stalling the negotiation process.
The White House Big Data Report: The Good, The Bad, and The Missing< https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/05/white-house-big-data-report-good-bad-a...
We did an in-depth analysis of a big data report commissioned by President Obama. While the report addresses issues like the dangers of discrimination based on big data, it ignores others, and even has some concerning suggestions, such as likening whistleblowers to violent criminals.
EFF Calls for Release of Ethiopian Dissident Bloggers< https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/04/eff-calls-release-ethiopian-dissident-...
Bloggers in Ethiopia who are critical of the government face censorship, intimidation, and pervasive surveillance. Recently, six dissident bloggers were arrested--the government of Ethiopia must release them now.
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The government's arguments in two Supreme Court cases regarding cell phone searches by law enforcement included extreme mischaracterizations both of how cell phone technology works and how people use it.
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Members of Congress are pressuring ad networks to blacklist sites based on easy to abuse commercial definitions of "pirate sites." This mimics the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) even though public pressure ensured that SOPA did not become law, and it may very well violate federal antitrust law.
EFF Releases Alpha Version of Privacy Badger, a New Tool to Help Block Trackers and Spy Ads https://www.eff.org/privacybadger
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Between legislative action like USA FREEDOM, direct action like Reset the Net, and legal action like EFF's NSA cases, we will see real change to the NSA.
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Novelist SL Huang explains how using Creative Commons licenses helps creativity thrive.
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On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Pete Forsyth peteforsyth@gmail.com wrote:
- The report specifically addresses the two stars Wikimedia "missed,"
stating that (1) it plans to publish a transparency report in July and (2)
should not be judged poorly for not having had the right opportunity to
defend users in court the way the report defines it.
On the second point: we regularly defend user privacy and we regularly defend users in court. Because of this, we have never taken a privacy issue to court - so far, we have always been able to talk them out of it or convince them it is not worth the trouble before it gets that far. We are successful at this because (1) we have a very good record of winning court cases, so they do not have a good chance of winning and (2) we collect so little user information, and we delete it quickly, so we are usually able to convince them that they won't get anything useful from us even if they did win.
But the report specifically requires us to defend user privacy in court. This makes sense for EFF: they need a public court record to "prove" that we have defended user privacy. But it doesn't make sense for us: we don't get credit for all the times that we have privately protected user privacy and saved the user (and the Foundation's budget!) from going to court.
So really we hope next year to get only five stars - because I hope to again win *before* court in these cases. We'll see- I'm sure someday someone will be stupid, and we'll win, and then we'll get our sixth star ;)
A big thanks goes out to Michelle Paulson, and several other folks on the team including Yana Welinder, for getting us our stars!
Luis (like Cristian and at least 1/2 of the lawyers on the team, also an EFF member)
2014-05-20 18:14 GMT+02:00 Luis Villa lvilla@wikimedia.org:
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Pete Forsyth peteforsyth@gmail.com wrote:
(2)
should not be judged poorly for not having had the right opportunity to
defend users in court the way the report defines it.
On the second point: we regularly defend user privacy and we regularly defend users in court. Because of this, we have never taken a privacy issue to court - so far, we have always been able to talk them out of it or convince them it is not worth the trouble before it gets that far. We are successful at this because (1) we have a very good record of winning court cases, so they do not have a good chance of winning and (2) we collect so little user information, and we delete it quickly, so we are usually able to convince them that they won't get anything useful from us even if they did win.
So this case: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
and more in general of this program: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal_and_Community_Advocacy/Legal_Fees_Assi...
are not rated because they are not strictly privacy-related?
C
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocristian@gmail.comwrote:
2014-05-20 18:14 GMT+02:00 Luis Villa lvilla@wikimedia.org:
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Pete Forsyth peteforsyth@gmail.com
wrote:
(2)
should not be judged poorly for not having had the right opportunity
to
defend users in court the way the report defines it.
On the second point: we regularly defend user privacy and we regularly defend users in court. Because of this, we have never taken a privacy
issue
to court - so far, we have always been able to talk them out of it or convince them it is not worth the trouble before it gets that far. We are successful at this because (1) we have a very good record of winning
court
cases, so they do not have a good chance of winning and (2) we collect so little user information, and we delete it quickly, so we are usually able to convince them that they won't get anything useful from us even if they did win.
So this case:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
and more in general of this program:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal_and_Community_Advocacy/Legal_Fees_Assi...
are not rated because they are not strictly privacy-related?
That's right. In the Greek case, Diu's identity was already publicly known when the case was filed - there was no privacy aspect in the actual legal case. We were not the ones who disclosed his identity, so we did not have an opportunity to fight for his privacy.
To be clear, Legal Fees Assistance Program could apply to a privacy case if one came up that met the other requirements. But we can't get the star just for promising to fight for it - we have to fight for it *in court* to get the star, and we just haven't had that opportunity yet.
As EFF put it:
*Fight for users privacy in courts.* Wikimedia does not earn credit in this category. However, it should be noted that many companies never have an opportunity to challenge a government data request. ... Wikimedia’s lack of star in this category should not be seen as a demerit.
Hope that clarifies- Luis
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