A housekeeping note: Gmail has been marking some list messages as spam for the past five days or so. It sounds like this is affecting other Wikimedia lists, including Otrs-en-l and daily-article-l. I don't know what if any work has been done to try to fix this issue, but until it's sorted out, you might need to watch your spam folders for list posts.
Thanks, Ryan
On 17 June 2010 13:12, Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral315@gmail.com wrote:
A housekeeping note: Gmail has been marking some list messages as spam for the past five days or so. It sounds like this is affecting other Wikimedia lists, including Otrs-en-l and daily-article-l. I don't know what if any work has been done to try to fix this issue, but until it's sorted out, you might need to watch your spam folders for list posts.
Thanks, Ryan
I can confirm that Gmail has been marking at least some mail as spam from *every* Wikimedia or Wikipedia list to which I subscribe, and has been doing so since June 11. This includes messages from the OTRS notification system.
Risker/Anne
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On 06/17/2010 10:17 AM, Risker wrote:
I can confirm that Gmail has been marking at least some mail as spam from *every* Wikimedia or Wikipedia list to which I subscribe, and has been doing so since June 11. This includes messages from the OTRS notification system.
I recently sent a rather important message about a scholarship to one of the awardees. I sent the email from my Thunderbird, but the "from" address was not mine, but the default scholarship address. I asked him why he hadn't responded, this person fished it out of their spam folder.
So it's not just listmail and otrs; it's also mail coming from the Foundation's mailserver directly.
- -- Cary Bass Volunteer Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
2010/6/17 Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral315@gmail.com:
A housekeeping note: Gmail has been marking some list messages as spam for the past five days or so. It sounds like this is affecting other Wikimedia
I've noticed the same problem with Gmail ;/
In last days I have to check very carefully spam folder.
-- Leinad
Yes. This is true. Many messages are marked as spam during the past few days.
I got this message also from the SPAM folder.
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Daniel ~ Leinad danny.leinad@gmail.comwrote:
2010/6/17 Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral315@gmail.com:
A housekeeping note: Gmail has been marking some list messages as spam
for
the past five days or so. It sounds like this is affecting other
Wikimedia
I've noticed the same problem with Gmail ;/
In last days I have to check very carefully spam folder.
-- Leinad
foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
On 17 June 2010 18:12, Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral315@gmail.com wrote:
A housekeeping note: Gmail has been marking some list messages as spam for the past five days or so. It sounds like this is affecting other Wikimedia lists, including Otrs-en-l and daily-article-l. I don't know what if any work has been done to try to fix this issue, but until it's sorted out, you might need to watch your spam folders for list posts.
So *that's* why nothing's been making any sense! Thanks for telling me!
There is a simple solution:
1) Click "create a filter" next to the search bar 2) Type "lists.wikimedia.org" in the "To:" box 3) Click "Next step" 4) Check "Never send to spam" 5) Save the filter
This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though. Search for "in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org" to find them and "Not Spam" them manually.
Hi Thomas,
I appreciate a lot your warning and hint
This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though. Search for "in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org" to find them and "Not Spam" them manually.
as I never noticed before that checkbox
"Also apply filter to XXX conversations below."
(see 2nd page of Gmail filter wizard) doesn't process letters which're in Spam already.
Regards,
Pavlo
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 June 2010 18:12, Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral315@gmail.com wrote:
A housekeeping note: Gmail has been marking some list messages as spam for the past five days or so. It sounds like this is affecting other Wikimedia lists, including Otrs-en-l and daily-article-l. I don't know what if any work has been done to try to fix this issue, but until it's sorted out, you might need to watch your spam folders for list posts.
So *that's* why nothing's been making any sense! Thanks for telling me!
There is a simple solution:
- Click "create a filter" next to the search bar
- Type "lists.wikimedia.org" in the "To:" box
- Click "Next step"
- Check "Never send to spam"
- Save the filter
This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though. Search for "in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org" to find them and "Not Spam" them manually.
foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.comwrote:
- Type "lists.wikimedia.org" in the "To:" box
If you use "Has the words:" [quote]listid:"*.wikimedia.org"[/quote] you'll be able to catch certain messages not caught by the To: filter.
I think adding mailing list addresses to contacts list will solve the problem.
On 18 June 2010 03:07, Anthony wikimail@inbox.org wrote:
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton@gmail.com
wrote:
- Type "lists.wikimedia.org" in the "To:" box
If you use "Has the words:" [quote]listid:"*.wikimedia.org"[/quote] you'll be able to catch certain messages not caught by the To: filter. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
On 06/17/2010 07:48 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
There is a simple solution:
- Click "create a filter" next to the search bar
- Type "lists.wikimedia.org" in the "To:" box
- Click "Next step"
- Check "Never send to spam"
- Save the filter
This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though. Search for "in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org" to find them and "Not Spam" them manually.
Unfortunately, this has a side-effect. If you're a mailing list administrator, you'll often get spam mail sent directly to list-l-owner@lists.wikimedia.org. With a filter like this, junk mail that has been normally, and rightfully so, sent to Spam will start appearing in Inbox, which is quite a nuisance.
Cheers, Filip
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though. Search for "in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org" to find them and "Not Spam" them manually.
Gah! The search result for that gives me _thousands_ of messages. ... and it seems that you can only not-spam a page at a time, the not spam option goes away if you tell it to mark all of the messages in the search results
On 18 June 2010 22:16, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though. Search for "in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org" to find them and "Not Spam" them manually.
Gah! The search result for that gives me _thousands_ of messages. ... and it seems that you can only not-spam a page at a time, the not spam option goes away if you tell it to mark all of the messages in the search results
Yes, I discovered the same thing. I don't understand why - it seems to be a bug. Fortunately, I only found hundreds, not thousands.
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.comwrote:
On 18 June 2010 22:16, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com
wrote:
This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though. Search for "in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org" to find them and "Not Spam" them manually.
Gah! The search result for that gives me _thousands_ of messages. ... and it seems that you can only not-spam a page at a time, the not spam option goes away if you tell it to mark all of the messages in the search results
Yes, I discovered the same thing. I don't understand why - it seems to be a bug. Fortunately, I only found hundreds, not thousands.
It's not a bug, it's a feature. Google doesn't want you screwing up its spam filter by not-spamming messages which you haven't even read the title of. You can still click on "move to inbox".
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though. Search for "in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org" to find them and "Not Spam" them manually.
Gah! The search result for that gives me _thousands_ of messages. ... and it seems that you can only not-spam a page at a time, the not spam option goes away if you tell it to mark all of the messages in the search results
aye this is my issue. I'm flagging some of the mailing lists at the moment but part of me thinks I should let them go to spam and press the "not spam" to train it. I'm still having issues on the one where I'm owner, at least one gives me 100+ spam mails on some days and I DONT want those in my inbox. :/
James Alexander james.alexander@rochester.edu jamesofur@gmail.com
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral315@gmail.com wrote:
A housekeeping note: Gmail has been marking some list messages as spam for the past five days or so. It sounds like this is affecting other Wikimedia lists, including Otrs-en-l and daily-article-l. I don't know what if any work has been done to try to fix this issue, but until it's sorted out, you might need to watch your spam folders for list posts.
Thanks, Ryan
-- [[User:Ral315]] _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
A few of us noticed this several days back. If you check some of the blacklists, lists.wikimedia.org seems to have some people's naughty list. Don't know if that's whats causing it or not though.
-Chad
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:30, Chad innocentkiller@gmail.com wrote:
A few of us noticed this several days back. If you check some of the blacklists, lists.wikimedia.org seems to have some people's naughty list. Don't know if that's whats causing it or not though.
It usually does, but right now I don't see it listed to any relevant lists. (last time I checked google doesn't care much about irrelevant ones)
Of course the other reason might be lots of people pressing SPAM button in gmail....
g
ps: backscatterer is a joke and sorbs useless due to payware removals.
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 3:00 PM, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Google is evil.
"Due to a filter you created, this message was not sent to Spam."
I reached out to Google about this, and they tell me it should be fixed later today, at least for misclassified listserv messages. According to our contact there, the misclassification happened because spammers have included images from Wikimedia projects in spam messages. Let me know offlist if you see additional false positives from here on.
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org