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daniwo59＠aol.com

10 May 2007 10 May '07

8:55 a.m.

I think a tag line is difficult because of problems with translations across languages. To be really good, it will likely be idiomatic. That said, I want to suggest "Get to know it" Danny ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Delphine Ménard

10 May 10 May

9 a.m.

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On 5/10/07, daniwo59(a)aol.com <daniwo59(a)aol.com> wrote:

I think a tag line is difficult because of problems with translations across languages. To be really good, it will likely be idiomatic. That said, I want to suggest "Get to know it"

"Apprends à connaître" for a loose French translation (Learn to know it of sorts) I like that. :-) Delphine -- ~notafish NB. This address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails sent to this address will probably get lost.

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Jussi-Ville Heiskanen

9:11 a.m.

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On 5/10/07, daniwo59(a)aol.com <daniwo59(a)aol.com> wrote:

I think a tag line is difficult because of problems with translations across languages. To be really good, it will likely be idiomatic. That said, I want to suggest "Get to know it"

Well, apart from teh "biblical sense" innuendo (which is not bad by any means IMO), I don't think that is particularly easy to translate. At least not into my native language. I would prefer... "Worth a look" -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]]

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Rich Holton

9:54 a.m.

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Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:

On 5/10/07, daniwo59(a)aol.com <daniwo59(a)aol.com> wrote:

I think a tag line is difficult because of problems with translations across languages. To be really good, it will likely be idiomatic. That said, I want to suggest "Get to know it"

Well, apart from teh "biblical sense" innuendo (which is not bad by any means IMO), I don't think that is particularly easy to translate. At least not into my native language. I would prefer... "Worth a look"

In English, "Free knowledge" has a nice double meaning, both of which apply. But it probably won't translate. -Rich

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Thomas Dalton

10:12 a.m.

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In English, "Free knowledge" has a nice double meaning, both of which apply. But it probably won't translate.

The dual meaning of "free" doesn't translate into many languages, as far as I know.

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Rich Holton

11:42 p.m.

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Thomas Dalton wrote:

In English, "Free knowledge" has a nice double meaning, both of which apply. But it probably won't translate.

The dual meaning of "free" doesn't translate into many languages, as far as I know.

Exactly. "...it probably won't translate" was too soft. -Rich

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Tim Starling

11 May 11 May

11:33 a.m.

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Thomas Dalton wrote:

In English, "Free knowledge" has a nice double meaning, both of which apply. But it probably won't translate.

The dual meaning of "free" doesn't translate into many languages, as far as I know.

I count 3 meanings when it's used alone like that, two adjectives and a verb. Maybe every language could choose its own pun. That would just leave Lojban out in the cold. -- Tim Starling

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Thomas Dalton

11:39 a.m.

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I count 3 meanings when it's used alone like that, two adjectives and a verb.

Well yes, but the verb and one of the adjectives are the same concept, just a different part of speech.

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Ray Saintonge

1:25 p.m.

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Thomas Dalton wrote:

I count 3 meanings when it's used alone like that, two adjectives and a verb.

Well yes, but the verb and one of the adjectives are the same concept, just a different part of speech.

No. The verb has more to do with freeing something from restriction, such as freeing someone from gaol. Free speech may derive from that but it is a much narrower meaning. Ec

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Gentleman Hill

1:43 p.m.

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To share knowledge.

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David Gerard

3:31 p.m.

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On 11/05/07, Gentleman Hill <hillgentleman.wikiversity(a)gmail.com> wrote:

To share knowledge.

I like that *a lot*. Better than "sharing knowledge", I think. - d.

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Thomas Dalton

3:04 p.m.

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No. The verb has more to do with freeing something from restriction, such as freeing someone from gaol. Free speech may derive from that but it is a much narrower meaning.

Of course "free speech" has a narrower meaning than "free", but we weren't talking about the definition of free speech, we were talking about the definition of free. The free in "free speech" means exactly the same as the free in "freeing someone from gaol".

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Tim Starling

3:17 p.m.

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Thomas Dalton wrote:

No. The verb has more to do with freeing something from restriction, such as freeing someone from gaol. Free speech may derive from that but it is a much narrower meaning.

Of course "free speech" has a narrower meaning than "free", but we weren't talking about the definition of free speech, we were talking about the definition of free. The free in "free speech" means exactly the same as the free in "freeing someone from gaol".

It's a pun because the meaning is different depending on which way you read it. As an adjective, the knowledge is free; as a verb, it's telling you to make the knowledge free. The pun only arises because the verb and the adjective are the same -- "good food" does not imply that one should make good food. -- Tim Starling

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Jan-Bart de Vreede

12:37 p.m.

New subject: [Foundation-l] Election Committe and under 18's

Hello Everyone, I am sorry it took so long to post on this issue. The board feels we would like to allow everyone in the community to help out where possible and that we should only limit functions to people who are 18+ if there is no other way (for example, when there are legal reasons) So volunteers for the election committee may be under 18. If in the coming months we find that we cannot have a certain task performed by someone under 18 for legal reasons we will find a way to solve this problem. Please remember everyone, the deadline for submitting your applications (see earlier mail for details) is the end of Sunday the 13th (UTC). Jan-Bart de Vreede Vice Chair Wikimedia Board of Trustees

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daniwo59＠aol.com
David Gerard
Delphine Ménard
Gentleman Hill
Jan-Bart de Vreede
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Ray Saintonge
Rich Holton
Thomas Dalton
Tim Starling