Hello all,
Five years ago, I was part of the work on a strategic plan for the Wikimedia movement. Much has changed since then. Now, I’m back...and we’re working on strategic direction again. :-)
Today, we're kicking-off a two-week community consultation about the future of Wikimedia.
I hope you'll participate in the online discussion about new internet trends and how Wikimedia responds to these changes, which will help to shape the future of Wikimedia.
The discussion is on meta, at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Strategy/Community_consultation
For more background on this consultation, check out this blog post:
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/02/23/strategy-consultation/
Your vision matters. I look forward to hearing from you as we chart the way forward.
Regards,
Philippe Beaudette
Director, Community Advocacy
Wikimedia Foundation
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Hi Phillpe,
Thanks for this.
What is are the milestones and timeline for the planning process?
How will the strategic plan relate to the next WMF Annual Plan?
How will the Annual Plan be developed for the 2015-2016 fiscal year?
Thanks,
Pine On Feb 23, 2015 12:14 PM, "Philippe Beaudette" philippe@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello all,
Five years ago, I was part of the work on a strategic plan for the Wikimedia movement. Much has changed since then. Now, I’m back...and we’re working on strategic direction again. :-)
Today, we're kicking-off a two-week community consultation about the future of Wikimedia.
I hope you'll participate in the online discussion about new internet trends and how Wikimedia responds to these changes, which will help to shape the future of Wikimedia.
The discussion is on meta, at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Strategy/Community_consultation
For more background on this consultation, check out this blog post:
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/02/23/strategy-consultation/
Your vision matters. I look forward to hearing from you as we chart the way forward.
Regards,
Philippe Beaudette
Director, Community Advocacy
Wikimedia Foundation
*Philippe Beaudette * \ Director, Community Advocacy \ Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 | philippe@wikimedia.org | : @Philippewiki https://twitter.com/Philippewiki
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Philippe Beaudette wrote:
Five years ago, I was part of the work on a strategic plan for the Wikimedia movement. Much has changed since then. Now, I’m back...and we’re working on strategic direction again. :-)
Hi.
I distinctly remember you swearing not to be involved in the next strategic plan. I may even have logs of such statements. What has changed?
Today, we're kicking off a two-week community consultation about the future of Wikimedia.
No, you're discussing the future of the Wikimedia Foundation. Wikimedia is much bigger and more important.
Your vision matters. I look forward to hearing from you as we chart the way forward.
I'd pretty strongly prefer that you not be involved in this effort except as a regular community member. I thought you felt similarly.
MZMcBride
On 24 February 2015 at 09:40, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Philippe Beaudette wrote:
Five years ago, I was part of the work on a strategic plan for the Wikimedia movement. Much has changed since then. Now, I’m back...and we’re working on strategic direction again. :-)
Hi.
I distinctly remember you swearing not to be involved in the next strategic plan. I may even have logs of such statements. What has changed?
I'm guessing that Philippe's boss has informed him that he's going to be working on it whether he likes it or not ;-)
Cheers, Craig
You could be on to something there, Craig. :) I think it's fair to say that somebody might change his mind in five years for all kinds of reasons - including being asked nicely. This process is obviously geared to differ widely from the last. Hopefully it will be a good approach for everyone.
In terms of the nature of the conversation, it is about the future of the movement. There's already quite a lot of feedback on the talk page from people who seem happy to discuss exactly that. If you want to join in specifically to share your thoughts on the future of the Wikimedia Foundation, MZ, that would be welcome, too.
Maggie
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Craig Franklin cfranklin@halonetwork.net wrote:
On 24 February 2015 at 09:40, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Philippe Beaudette wrote:
Five years ago, I was part of the work on a strategic plan for the Wikimedia movement. Much has changed since then. Now, I’m back...and we’re working on strategic direction again. :-)
Hi.
I distinctly remember you swearing not to be involved in the next strategic plan. I may even have logs of such statements. What has
changed?
I'm guessing that Philippe's boss has informed him that he's going to be working on it whether he likes it or not ;-)
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I think it is great that this is organised this way. To me it sounds a good idea to have periodical this kind of consultations. It is a dialogue with the community.
Romaine
2015-02-24 1:56 GMT+01:00 Maggie Dennis mdennis@wikimedia.org:
You could be on to something there, Craig. :) I think it's fair to say that somebody might change his mind in five years for all kinds of reasons - including being asked nicely. This process is obviously geared to differ widely from the last. Hopefully it will be a good approach for everyone.
In terms of the nature of the conversation, it is about the future of the movement. There's already quite a lot of feedback on the talk page from people who seem happy to discuss exactly that. If you want to join in specifically to share your thoughts on the future of the Wikimedia Foundation, MZ, that would be welcome, too.
Maggie
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Craig Franklin <cfranklin@halonetwork.net
wrote:
On 24 February 2015 at 09:40, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Philippe Beaudette wrote:
Five years ago, I was part of the work on a strategic plan for the Wikimedia movement. Much has changed since then. Now, I’m back...and we’re working on strategic direction again. :-)
Hi.
I distinctly remember you swearing not to be involved in the next strategic plan. I may even have logs of such statements. What has
changed?
I'm guessing that Philippe's boss has informed him that he's going to be working on it whether he likes it or not ;-)
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Maggie Dennis wrote:
You could be on to something there, Craig. :) I think it's fair to say that somebody might change his mind in five years for all kinds of reasons - including being asked nicely. This process is obviously geared to differ widely from the last. Hopefully it will be a good approach for everyone.
In terms of the nature of the conversation, it is about the future of the movement. There's already quite a lot of feedback on the talk page from people who seem happy to discuss exactly that. If you want to join in specifically to share your thoughts on the future of the Wikimedia Foundation, MZ, that would be welcome, too.
Why would I get involved in a process with somebody who can't keep his word? It would lend legitimacy to the process and allow Philippe and others to manipulate the involvement into a bold claim of community consultation ("X users posted to the talk page, see!").
I try to learn from past mistakes. I was fairly involved in the last strategic planning process and largely due to that experience I don't trust Philippe to be involved again. My two questions remain unanswered.
If you want to pretend as though he's being coerced, that's your business, though I personally find this view pretty disrespectful. Are you seriously suggesting that if Philippe said "no, I'd rather not be involved this time" that he would be forced? What would that say about his boss?
MZMcBride
On 24 February 2015 at 09:19, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Maggie Dennis wrote:
You could be on to something there, Craig. :) I think it's fair to say that somebody might change his mind in five years for all kinds of reasons - including being asked nicely. This process is obviously geared to differ widely from the last. Hopefully it will be a good approach for everyone.
In terms of the nature of the conversation, it is about the future of the movement. There's already quite a lot of feedback on the talk page from people who seem happy to discuss exactly that. If you want to join in specifically to share your thoughts on the future of the Wikimedia Foundation, MZ, that would be welcome, too.
Why would I get involved in a process with somebody who can't keep his word? It would lend legitimacy to the process and allow Philippe and others to manipulate the involvement into a bold claim of community consultation ("X users posted to the talk page, see!").
I try to learn from past mistakes. I was fairly involved in the last strategic planning process and largely due to that experience I don't trust Philippe to be involved again. My two questions remain unanswered.
If you want to pretend as though he's being coerced, that's your business, though I personally find this view pretty disrespectful. Are you seriously suggesting that if Philippe said "no, I'd rather not be involved this time" that he would be forced? What would that say about his boss?
What I'd say to that, MZM, is that there's no evidence that the previous
strategic consultation was a mistake; it was just not a very positive experience for the person co-ordinating it. I'd say that there is good evidence of "learning" because it's not being done the same way this time. I'd say that any organization that expects to be around for many years to come should be periodically reviewing their overall strategy and focusing on key issues, and that it's particularly important for organizations to do so when they have changes to upper level leadership and to their operating environment. I'd say that, looking at the roles and responsibilities within the WMF at this time, it's pretty obvious that community outreach on strategic planning most appropriately falls into the scope of the Director of Community Advocacy. I'd suggest to you that he's not doing the same thing the same way a second time, and that your suggestion that he "can't keep his word" is a rather overblown reaction to a major change in the process in which you seem to have invested a lot of yourself in the past.
I have no real thoughts about whether this very different way of seeking community input into strategy is better or worse. I do hope that you'll participate, because it seems to be an area where you have a lot of thoughts.
Risker/Anne
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