Why is the world press attacking Microsoft censorship in China?
http://news.google.com/news?as_q=Microsoft+China+blog&svnum=10&as_sc...
If they wanted, they could find an equally good target in the usually atruistic Wikipedia's barring the creation of Chinese Wikinews. Microsoft giving into Chinese censorship for business reasons is no worse than Wikipedia's barring a Chinese project in deference to Beijing's censors. When you act frightened you get stepped on, and that is exactly what happended to all of us: We prevented a Wikinews out of fear for Wikipedia, but they block the Wikipedia anyways.
With all due respect for Jimbo, if he continues to use "no Chinese Wikinews" as a carrot to get Wikipedia back into China, he will ultimate fail at both despite his good intentions.
Let's set up Chinese Wikinews before this story hits the world press!!
Alan
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But we are not engaged in futilely trying to save people on the mainland from the executioner. Everything has natural limits. China will change and one man standing in front of a tank is noble but it is also bad to re-enact the charge of the light brigade. We can go far and be bold; we have done that, but going way too far and harming innocent, or possibly naive, people would be wrong.
I think that part of the world press that has a presence in China would fully understand our position. They deal everyday with trying to protect the freedom of their sources.
Fred
On Jan 9, 2006, at 5:14 AM, Alan Knight wrote:
Why is the world press attacking Microsoft censorship in China?
http://news.google.com/news?as_q=Microsoft+China +blog&svnum=10&as_scoring=r&hl=en&btnG=Google +Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nsrc=&as_nloc=&as_occt=any&as_drrb=q& as_qdr=&as_mind=10&as_minm=1&as_maxd=9&as_maxm=1
If they wanted, they could find an equally good target in the usually atruistic Wikipedia's barring the creation of Chinese Wikinews. Microsoft giving into Chinese censorship for business reasons is no worse than Wikipedia's barring a Chinese project in deference to Beijing's censors. When you act frightened you get stepped on, and that is exactly what happended to all of us: We prevented a Wikinews out of fear for Wikipedia, but they block the Wikipedia anyways.
With all due respect for Jimbo, if he continues to use "no Chinese Wikinews" as a carrot to get Wikipedia back into China, he will ultimate fail at both despite his good intentions.
Let's set up Chinese Wikinews before this story hits the world press!!
Alan
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Go Alan Knight! I agree, there is no good reason for there to be no Chinese Wikinews.Wikimedia has already been blocked so the old logic that "we have to be good boys and girls, otherwise the Communists will block us" is kind of obsolete. Or maybe Wikimedia has become so spineless that we've moved onto the next level: "If we don't start a Chinese Wikinews, maybe the Chinese Communists will stop blocking Chinese Wikipedia and other projects." We're effectively asking "How high?" before the ChiComs ask us to jump. I really, really think that the current lack of Chinese Wikinews is a disgrace.More than the minimum of 5 have expressed an interest in a Chinese Wikinews. As well as that, a fully functional pre-launch exists. Why not get a Chinese Wikinews up-and-running?
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