http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiFix
WikiFix is aimed at explaining *HOW TO* repair different ítems such as telephones, microwaves, autos, tables, furnitures, walls, decorations, wears, etc.
We should have in mind that each model of a product is specific when repairing it since its failure is different, and that is why each page of the site will deal with one trouble of a specific model and item.
Articles listed in the site will be grouped in categories such as: Electrodomestics, Autos, Houses, Clothes and Shoes, Kitchen accesories, etc.
You can Add your signature to cooperate whith the proyect.
Best regards. Leonardo Oña.
An'n 20.10.2010 20:30, hett Leonardo Oña schreven:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiFix
WikiFix is aimed at explaining *HOW TO* repair different ítems such as telephones, microwaves, autos, tables, furnitures, walls, decorations, wears, etc.
We should have in mind that each model of a product is specific when repairing it since its failure is different, and that is why each page of the site will deal with one trouble of a specific model and item.
Articles listed in the site will be grouped in categories such as: Electrodomestics, Autos, Houses, Clothes and Shoes, Kitchen accesories, etc.
You can Add your signature to cooperate whith the proyect.
Best regards. Leonardo Oña.
I think your proposal is a good idea and that that wiki could develop into a very useful resource. However it does not fit into Wikimedia. Wikimedia is strictly about educational content and "neutral point of view" etc. and your how-to is just the opposite of neutral point of view. It collects the experience of people from their own point of view.
Please don't get me wrong, I don't want to offend you, but I want to avoid any false hopes: there's no chance at all that your proposal will be adopted. No chance at all. Wikimedia has denied (or ignored) dozens or hundreds of project requests, many of which were really good ideas and which were then established elsewhere and have developed into flourishing wiki communities since.
If you really want to develop that idea, I suggest that you have a look a Wikia: http://www.wikia.com/Wikia. It allows to create your own wiki. But you should also check whether the project WikiHow (http://www.wikihow.com/Main-Page) is close enough to your idea.
Marcus Buck User:Slomox
I wouldn't say that a "how-to" is necessarily NPOV, although there are more ways to do something. But such a project can be realised already within Wikibooks. Kind regards Ziko
2010/10/21 Marcus Buck me@marcusbuck.org:
An'n 20.10.2010 20:30, hett Leonardo Oña schreven:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiFix
WikiFix is aimed at explaining *HOW TO* repair different ítems such as telephones, microwaves, autos, tables, furnitures, walls, decorations, wears, etc.
We should have in mind that each model of a product is specific when repairing it since its failure is different, and that is why each page of the site will deal with one trouble of a specific model and item.
Articles listed in the site will be grouped in categories such as: Electrodomestics, Autos, Houses, Clothes and Shoes, Kitchen accesories, etc.
You can Add your signature to cooperate whith the proyect.
Best regards. Leonardo Oña.
I think your proposal is a good idea and that that wiki could develop into a very useful resource. However it does not fit into Wikimedia. Wikimedia is strictly about educational content and "neutral point of view" etc. and your how-to is just the opposite of neutral point of view. It collects the experience of people from their own point of view.
Please don't get me wrong, I don't want to offend you, but I want to avoid any false hopes: there's no chance at all that your proposal will be adopted. No chance at all. Wikimedia has denied (or ignored) dozens or hundreds of project requests, many of which were really good ideas and which were then established elsewhere and have developed into flourishing wiki communities since.
If you really want to develop that idea, I suggest that you have a look a Wikia: http://www.wikia.com/Wikia. It allows to create your own wiki. But you should also check whether the project WikiHow (http://www.wikihow.com/Main-Page) is close enough to your idea.
Marcus Buck User:Slomox
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On 10/21/2010 08:21 AM, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
I wouldn't say that a "how-to" is necessarily NPOV, although there are more ways to do something. But such a project can be realised already within Wikibooks. Kind regards Ziko
How-to books are on Wikibooks mainly due to the long-ago viewpoint that Wikibooks ought to be an incubator project for all kinds of ideas that didn't quite fit on Wikipedia... and the Wikibooks community was generally willing to try them out for a time.
I've never been a real fan with the "new project" process as it relates to Wikimedia, and I find it unfortunate that nothing new has been created for quite some time. The last major "community-sponsored" (aka the idea originated with ordinary users as opposed to something of a pet project by a WMF board member) project to become a major Wikimedia project was Wikiversity. Even that met stiff resistance and even out right rejection by the WMF board in spite of overwhelming support from the community and had even been "incubated" at Wikibooks for quite a while prior to that. It took some substantial effort to get the board to reconsider, with what I saw was mostly a bunch of wheel spinning that really didn't do too much good.
As I've mentioned on the talk pages at Meta, I wish somebody would officially state on Meta and elsewhere that new Wikimedia sister projects will never be started, thanks for trying anyway and have a nice day. I could go into the cynical viewpoint on how new sister projects are started, but it would create a flame war royale.
This mailing list is the correct place to put ideas like this forward, but be prepared to get it shot down and shot down hard. It isn't just 99% of all ideas like this get shot down, I have yet to see any idea get proposed here on this list to ever become a sister project unless there has been a HUGE effort involving at least hundreds if not many more Wikimedians and often an effort to delete a major category of content from one of the existing projects as well. Wikiversity as a separate project started as a "Votes for Deletion" discussion, as did Wikibooks for that matter (from Wikipedia).
Good luck with this idea, as you'll need it if you want to get it going.
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On 10/21/10 6:14 PM, Robert S. Horning wrote:
On 10/21/2010 08:21 AM, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
I wouldn't say that a "how-to" is necessarily NPOV, although there are more ways to do something. But such a project can be realised already within Wikibooks.
How-to books are on Wikibooks mainly due to the long-ago viewpoint that Wikibooks ought to be an incubator project for all kinds of ideas that didn't quite fit on Wikipedia... and the Wikibooks community was generally willing to try them out for a time.
While I would still feel that Wikibooks would be an appropriate place for this kind of projects, I also think that Wikihow has taken hold in this area of knowledge. As a separate project it is valuable competition to Wikimedia projects.
Ray
Hoi, I would like to qualify Wikihow not as a competition to WMF projects but as a welcome addition.. Remember we are all one Wiki movement :) Thanks, GerardM
On 22 October 2010 10:15, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
On 10/21/10 6:14 PM, Robert S. Horning wrote:
On 10/21/2010 08:21 AM, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
I wouldn't say that a "how-to" is necessarily NPOV, although there are more ways to do something. But such a project can be realised already within Wikibooks.
How-to books are on Wikibooks mainly due to the long-ago viewpoint that Wikibooks ought to be an incubator project for all kinds of ideas that didn't quite fit on Wikipedia... and the Wikibooks community was generally willing to try them out for a time.
While I would still feel that Wikibooks would be an appropriate place for this kind of projects, I also think that Wikihow has taken hold in this area of knowledge. As a separate project it is valuable competition to Wikimedia projects.
Ray
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