pfctdayelise is talking pure nonsense (as she often does in legal issues at Commons). The sense of the policy is to allow small exceptions from the "all must be free" doctrine. The exceptions must be legal according the national law and according the US "fair use". Each European country has exceptions similar to "fair use": e.g. German "Zitatrecht". If http://www.ivir.nl/dossier/implementatie_2001_29_EG/wetten/tsjechie.pdf is the actual Czech Copyright Act article 31 is relevant allowing "quotations" of works for teaching purposes. But I think the case is that rights owners give permission for Wikipedia only (which isn't allowed at Commons which only accepts works under free licenses). One can then conclude a fortiori that these uses are also according the WMF policy.
Please remember that whole WMF projects are dealing with unfree content: Wikiquote has lots of quotations which are copyright protected. These should be deleted before any Czech picture.
Klaus Graf
Hello,
On Dec 19, 2007 3:31 PM, Klaus Graf klausgraf@googlemail.com wrote:
pfctdayelise is talking pure nonsense (as she often does in legal issues at Commons).
Surely you wish to apologize for that, and to think twice before clicking "Send" in your email client.
On 19/12/2007, Guillaume Paumier guillom.pom@gmail.com wrote:
Surely you wish to apologize for that, and to think twice before clicking "Send" in your email client.
I seriously don't think that was as bad as "bunch of japanese idiots".
--RRB
Hello too,
On Dec 19, 2007 5:34 PM, Red Rocket redrocketboy@googlemail.com wrote:
I seriously don't think that was as bad as "bunch of japanese idiots".
I seriously think avoiding personal attacks and apologizing when you loose your temper is mandatory for everybody.
On 20/12/2007, Klaus Graf klausgraf@googlemail.com wrote:
pfctdayelise is talking pure nonsense (as she often does in legal issues at Commons). The sense of the policy is to allow small exceptions from the "all must be free" doctrine. The exceptions must be legal according the national law and according the US "fair use". Each European country has exceptions similar to "fair use": e.g. German "Zitatrecht". If http://www.ivir.nl/dossier/implementatie_2001_29_EG/wetten/tsjechie.pdf is the actual Czech Copyright Act article 31 is relevant allowing "quotations" of works for teaching purposes.
I agree, that appears to be the relevant law. My comments to Timichal were based on his adamant assertion that there was no Czech equivalent to fair use. If he is wrong then naturally my comments won't follow any more. :)
regards Brianna user:pfctdayelise
No, can't be used in our case, as images are not "quotes" (applicable to text only) nor "excerpts" (you can't make an except of an image), and no definition in 31 b) fits Wikipedia (it's an educational project, not scientific, technical or critical).
Told you we thought it through ;)
Michal Zlatkovsky [[m:User:Timichal]]
Brianna Laugher napsal(a):
I agree, that appears to be the relevant law. My comments to Timichal were based on his adamant assertion that there was no Czech equivalent to fair use. If he is wrong then naturally my comments won't follow any more. :)
regards Brianna user:pfctdayelise
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