Originally I wrote it somewhere on a blog ( http://dammit.lt/2009/03/28/im-a-creative-commoner/ ), so this is a bit long copy-paste into an email: Lately Creative Commons is becoming very dominant topic in my life. First of all, I see all the people in free culture world holding their breath and waiting for Wikipedia switch to CC license. I’m waiting for that too - and personally I really endorse it. Though usually people do not really notice licenses on web content, they really do once they see something they really want to reuse. Wikipedia ends up being isolated island, if it doesn’t go after sharing and exchanging information with other projects.
It takes time to understand one is ‘creative commoner’. I do have a t- shirt with such caption, but it is much more comfortable once you start feeling real power of use and reuse of information. Few anecdotes…
Dear Mr. Mituzas,
Thank you for making your photographs available under a Creative Commons license. I am writing to inform you that the American Society of Civil Engineers has featured a silhouette of “Up we go” on the cover of its new book, “Constructability Concepts and Practice.” https://www.asce.org/bookstore/book.cfm?book=7742
Per the terms of the license, the following credit appears on page ii of the book: “Front cover photograph by Domas Mituzas used under a Creative Commons license. http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/.%E2%80%9D
I will be happy to send a copy of the book to you if you will provide me your mailing address.
I got this email back in summer, 2007. Did I just steal a job from professional photographer? Or would they just leave blank book cover? Will this lead to a better bridge in future? Did I join a civil cause? All I know now, is that I’m book cover photographer, albeit quite cheap one. Also, by using CC license I simply used lingua-franca of world I’m in - and now my content can evolve into shapes that I couldn’t expect, and that would be limited by non-portable licenses.
Other anecdote is way more internal. I have cheap point-and-shoot camera (same one to shoot book cover pictures :) that I use during my travels. It fits well into my jeans pocket, it doesn’t provide me any self esteem in professional photography. Still, I get to places, I take pictures, I place them on my flickr photostream, and I license them under creative commons. And fascinating things happen - my pictures appear on top of Wikipedia articles (like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_buildings_in_the_world ), without any intervention of mine. People just use it, I can sit back, relax, and see how the contribution widens.
Of course, there other different stories. My colleague (and manager) runs a wiki about his own town, Bielepedia, and he wants to exchange information with Wikipedia. Now he can’t, as well as quite a lot of other free content community projects. Though of course, some may believe license difference doesn’t mean much, in this case it means that we’re building borders we don’t need nor we have intent to maintain.
I live and breathe Wikipedia technology, but I do not feel competent enough to go and push content itself around, and it just shows up there itself (oh, of course, there’s army of committed volunteers who help with that). So, I benefit the project just by being creative commoner, and I may benefit lots of other projects. We at Wikipedia technical team are very open in what we do, and try to spread our know- how in many directions. Documents I wrote about how we do things ended up downloaded hundred thousand times, and I really hope that some of that know-how will end up used and reused.
I guess I’m taking this to extremes - I ended up talking to people in government of Lithuania, journalists and non-profit activists. Imagine a government, that would commit to open licensing for produced content. Well, no need to imagine - US federal institutions release information to public domain, but in Europe it is way more restricted. Still, what one has to realize - at government level it is not only a right to be given, it also has to be a right that has to be protected. Nowadays that means going to copyright powerhouses that serve large record labels and movie studios, and will charge for services, that government has to provide for free (and does in other areas, like looking for your stolen car).
We have lots and lots of talks about knowledge-societies at government levels, but we never get to the point, that every individual is part of that, and first of all we have to teach those rights, and guard them. But of course, to prove, that our rights have to be guarded, we have to show how great our work is - and how powerful can our sharing be. To achieve that we have to build bridges between license islands, talk same languages, and of course, create.
I’m a creative commoner. So should be you.
P.S. So should be Wikimedia Foundation. I’m extremely excited about the work being done to make it reality (thanks Erik, Mike, Mako, everyone!), and you know my personal position on the matter by now :)
Cheers,
This is a lovely article, by a reporter who actually doesn't seem to be on a smear campaign or completely misunderstand how Wikipedia works - altho its unclear how much of that is due to reading "The Wikipedia Revolution".
Wikipedia: Exploring Fact City http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/weekinreview/29cohen.html?ref=technology
2009/3/29 KillerChihuahua puppy@killerchihuahua.com:
This is a lovely article, by a reporter who actually doesn't seem to be on a smear campaign or completely misunderstand how Wikipedia works - altho its unclear how much of that is due to reading "The Wikipedia Revolution". Wikipedia: Exploring Fact City http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/weekinreview/29cohen.html?ref=technology
Noam Cohen is pretty au fait with Wikipedia and how it works.
(In general, I'm really glad Wikipedia is utterly mainstream and gets coverage outside the ad-banner trolls of the tech press.)
- d.
A lovely article. The only pity is it doesn't note how much of this social theory of wikis owes to Sunir Shah's pioneering work on MeatballWiki.
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:02 PM, KillerChihuahua puppy@killerchihuahua.comwrote:
This is a lovely article, by a reporter who actually doesn't seem to be on a smear campaign or completely misunderstand how Wikipedia works - altho its unclear how much of that is due to reading "The Wikipedia Revolution".
Wikipedia: Exploring Fact City http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/weekinreview/29cohen.html?ref=technology
foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
2009/3/29 The Cunctator cunctator@gmail.com:
A lovely article. The only pity is it doesn't note how much of this social theory of wikis owes to Sunir Shah's pioneering work on MeatballWiki.
MeatballWiki is all but unknown to most Wikipedians, let alone the outside world. That's not good. I recommend it to all here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeatballWiki http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl
Think of it as meta-meta-wiki.
- d.
David Gerard, 29/03/2009 21:14:
2009/3/29 The Cunctator cunctator@gmail.com:
A lovely article. The only pity is it doesn't note how much of this social theory of wikis owes to Sunir Shah's pioneering work on MeatballWiki.
MeatballWiki is all but unknown to most Wikipedians, let alone the outside world. That's not good. I recommend it to all here.
For example (just to give a starting point; then you won't be able to stop reading this wiki!), on the wiki/city subject, see these five years old pages: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?OnlineCommunitiesAreCityStates http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?WikisAsVillages
And, since we talk over FlaggedRevisions, this is topical: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?WikiLifeCycle http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?GatedCommunity http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?LimitGrowth
Nemo
The Cunctator wrote:
A lovely article. The only pity is it doesn't note how much of this social theory of wikis owes to Sunir Shah's pioneering work on MeatballWiki.
A nostalgically memorable moment for me was sitting at a table full of beer just listening to Sunir Shah and Ward Cunningham sharing their experiences. Ec
I was surprised last year to receive an e-mail from the journal Nature Genetics. They put one of my pictures that they found on Commons on the cover of the journal. I've received a couple of other similar but lower profile requests. Commons is definitely a great way to get your work seen.
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Domas Mituzas midom.lists@gmail.comwrote:
I got this email back in summer, 2007. Did I just steal a job from professional photographer? Or would they just leave blank book cover? Will this lead to a better bridge in future? Did I join a civil cause? All I know now, is that I’m book cover photographer, albeit quite cheap one. Also, by using CC license I simply used lingua-franca of world I’m in - and now my content can evolve into shapes that I couldn’t expect, and that would be limited by non-portable licenses.
Other anecdote is way more internal. I have cheap point-and-shoot camera (same one to shoot book cover pictures :) that I use during my travels. It fits well into my jeans pocket, it doesn’t provide me any self esteem in professional photography. Still, I get to places, I take pictures, I place them on my flickr photostream, and I license them under creative commons. And fascinating things happen - my pictures appear on top of Wikipedia articles (like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_buildings_in_the_world ), without any intervention of mine. People just use it, I can sit back, relax, and see how the contribution widens.
Of course, there other different stories. My colleague (and manager) runs a wiki about his own town, Bielepedia, and he wants to exchange information with Wikipedia. Now he can’t, as well as quite a lot of other free content community projects. Though of course, some may believe license difference doesn’t mean much, in this case it means that we’re building borders we don’t need nor we have intent to maintain.
I live and breathe Wikipedia technology, but I do not feel competent enough to go and push content itself around, and it just shows up there itself (oh, of course, there’s army of committed volunteers who help with that). So, I benefit the project just by being creative commoner, and I may benefit lots of other projects. We at Wikipedia technical team are very open in what we do, and try to spread our know- how in many directions. Documents I wrote about how we do things ended up downloaded hundred thousand times, and I really hope that some of that know-how will end up used and reused.
I guess I’m taking this to extremes - I ended up talking to people in government of Lithuania, journalists and non-profit activists. Imagine a government, that would commit to open licensing for produced content. Well, no need to imagine - US federal institutions release information to public domain, but in Europe it is way more restricted. Still, what one has to realize - at government level it is not only a right to be given, it also has to be a right that has to be protected. Nowadays that means going to copyright powerhouses that serve large record labels and movie studios, and will charge for services, that government has to provide for free (and does in other areas, like looking for your stolen car).
We have lots and lots of talks about knowledge-societies at government levels, but we never get to the point, that every individual is part of that, and first of all we have to teach those rights, and guard them. But of course, to prove, that our rights have to be guarded, we have to show how great our work is - and how powerful can our sharing be. To achieve that we have to build bridges between license islands, talk same languages, and of course, create.
I’m a creative commoner. So should be you.
P.S. So should be Wikimedia Foundation. I’m extremely excited about the work being done to make it reality (thanks Erik, Mike, Mako, everyone!), and you know my personal position on the matter by now :)
Cheers,
Domas Mituzas -- http://dammit.lt/ -- [[user:midom]]
foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Nice write-up Domas. I really feel we are part of a bigger movement, and that is what i usually express towards others who approach me about Wikipedia. It's not just the encyclopaedia, but a whole movement of people who think free licenses and media are an essential part of the 21st century.
And i got a picture published as well. It was a pleasant surprise to view my illustration of 'the long tail' in "Website Optimization" from O'Reilly, complete with a picture attribution even though i released it as public domain.
-- Hay
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Brian Brian.Mingus@colorado.edu wrote:
I was surprised last year to receive an e-mail from the journal Nature Genetics. They put one of my pictures that they found on Commons on the cover of the journal. I've received a couple of other similar but lower profile requests. Commons is definitely a great way to get your work seen.
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Domas Mituzas midom.lists@gmail.comwrote:
I got this email back in summer, 2007. Did I just steal a job from professional photographer? Or would they just leave blank book cover? Will this lead to a better bridge in future? Did I join a civil cause? All I know now, is that I’m book cover photographer, albeit quite cheap one. Also, by using CC license I simply used lingua-franca of world I’m in - and now my content can evolve into shapes that I couldn’t expect, and that would be limited by non-portable licenses.
Other anecdote is way more internal. I have cheap point-and-shoot camera (same one to shoot book cover pictures :) that I use during my travels. It fits well into my jeans pocket, it doesn’t provide me any self esteem in professional photography. Still, I get to places, I take pictures, I place them on my flickr photostream, and I license them under creative commons. And fascinating things happen - my pictures appear on top of Wikipedia articles (like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_buildings_in_the_world ), without any intervention of mine. People just use it, I can sit back, relax, and see how the contribution widens.
Of course, there other different stories. My colleague (and manager) runs a wiki about his own town, Bielepedia, and he wants to exchange information with Wikipedia. Now he can’t, as well as quite a lot of other free content community projects. Though of course, some may believe license difference doesn’t mean much, in this case it means that we’re building borders we don’t need nor we have intent to maintain.
I live and breathe Wikipedia technology, but I do not feel competent enough to go and push content itself around, and it just shows up there itself (oh, of course, there’s army of committed volunteers who help with that). So, I benefit the project just by being creative commoner, and I may benefit lots of other projects. We at Wikipedia technical team are very open in what we do, and try to spread our know- how in many directions. Documents I wrote about how we do things ended up downloaded hundred thousand times, and I really hope that some of that know-how will end up used and reused.
I guess I’m taking this to extremes - I ended up talking to people in government of Lithuania, journalists and non-profit activists. Imagine a government, that would commit to open licensing for produced content. Well, no need to imagine - US federal institutions release information to public domain, but in Europe it is way more restricted. Still, what one has to realize - at government level it is not only a right to be given, it also has to be a right that has to be protected. Nowadays that means going to copyright powerhouses that serve large record labels and movie studios, and will charge for services, that government has to provide for free (and does in other areas, like looking for your stolen car).
We have lots and lots of talks about knowledge-societies at government levels, but we never get to the point, that every individual is part of that, and first of all we have to teach those rights, and guard them. But of course, to prove, that our rights have to be guarded, we have to show how great our work is - and how powerful can our sharing be. To achieve that we have to build bridges between license islands, talk same languages, and of course, create.
I’m a creative commoner. So should be you.
P.S. So should be Wikimedia Foundation. I’m extremely excited about the work being done to make it reality (thanks Erik, Mike, Mako, everyone!), and you know my personal position on the matter by now :)
Cheers,
Domas Mituzas -- http://dammit.lt/ -- [[user:midom]]
foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
I was surprised last year to receive an e-mail from the journal Nature Genetics. They put one of my pictures that they found on Commons on the cover of the journal.
Well, this is smth you should really be proud of. Seriously, this is a high-profile journal, making a cover of it would increase my research funding chances considerably. But unfortunately they do not ask me...
Cheers Yaroslav
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org