In a recent blog post, "No, we’re not in a post-fact world. On Wikipedia, facts matter.", the Foundation referred to Wikipedia editors"sharing breaking news in record time". It is true that the English-language Wikipedia is increasingly carrying articles about newsworthy events, and this in spite of its WP:NOTNEWS policy.
Has the Foundation made a conscious decision to promote Wikipedia as a source of news, and if so, what were the results of its discussions with the Wikipedia and Wikinews communities? Will the Foundation allocate any extra resources to this effort?
Rognvald
1. You misread en:WP:NOTNEWS . The policy doesn't say news is forbidden. It is that Wikipedia should consider notability and original research concerns and not act as a newspaper.
Actual wording: "editors are encouraged to include current and up-to-date information within its coverage, and to develop stand-alone articles on significant current events."
2. You misunderstand the Wikimedia Foundation role in these areas. Please take this discussion to the proper places on Wikipedia [[ Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news]] and/or Wikinews.
Thanks.
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Rogol Domedonfors domedonfors@gmail.com wrote:
In a recent blog post, "No, we’re not in a post-fact world. On Wikipedia, facts matter.", the Foundation referred to Wikipedia editors"sharing breaking news in record time". It is true that the English-language Wikipedia is increasingly carrying articles about newsworthy events, and this in spite of its WP:NOTNEWS policy.
Has the Foundation made a conscious decision to promote Wikipedia as a source of news, and if so, what were the results of its discussions with the Wikipedia and Wikinews communities? Will the Foundation allocate any extra resources to this effort?
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Andrew
Thank you for your suggestion, but I think that a discussion about the Foundations policy on news across its various projects is more suitable to this list than to one of the Wikipedias. Your comments on the English-language Wikipedia policy on news are helpful. Do you see the Foundation's communications as being entirely consistent with that view?
Rutherford
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Andrew Lih andrew.lih@gmail.com wrote:
- You misread en:WP:NOTNEWS . The policy doesn't say news is forbidden. It
is that Wikipedia should consider notability and original research concerns and not act as a newspaper.
Actual wording: "editors are encouraged to include current and up-to-date information within its coverage, and to develop stand-alone articles on significant current events."
- You misunderstand the Wikimedia Foundation role in these areas. Please
take this discussion to the proper places on Wikipedia [[ Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news]] and/or Wikinews.
Thanks.
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Rogol Domedonfors domedonfors@gmail.com wrote:
In a recent blog post, "No, we’re not in a post-fact world. On Wikipedia, facts matter.", the Foundation referred to Wikipedia editors"sharing breaking news in record time". It is true that the English-language Wikipedia is increasingly carrying articles about newsworthy events, and this in spite of its WP:NOTNEWS policy.
Has the Foundation made a conscious decision to promote Wikipedia as a source of news, and if so, what were the results of its discussions with the Wikipedia and Wikinews communities? Will the Foundation allocate any extra resources to this effort?
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As far as I can tell, the Foundation does not have "policy on news across its various projects".
So the answer to your original question:
Has the Foundation made a conscious decision to promote Wikipedia as a
source of news, and if so, what were the results of its discussions
with
the Wikipedia and Wikinews communities? Will the Foundation allocate
any
extra resources to this effort?
would seem to be this: No, there is no particular decision to promote Wikipedia as a source of news. There have, however, been a number of blog posts and communications celebrating Wikipedia's success at providing relatively up-to-date and accurate information on current events. No discussion with either Wikipedia or Wikinews communities took place, or needed to, as this was just another aspect of Wikipedia being showcased on the Wikimedia blog.
As far as I can tell, the Foundation has not allocated any extra resources to promoting Wikipedia as a news source. You are mistaking a couple of blog posts to signify Some Grand Policy Change, but it is not so.
Asaf
Then perhaps the blog posts were over-enthusiastic. There is a current discussion on this topic at the English-language Wikipedia, but not at the link Andrew gave: it is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:What_Wikipedia_is_not#RFC:_New_...
Rod
On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:45 AM, Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org wrote:
As far as I can tell, the Foundation does not have "policy on news across its various projects".
So the answer to your original question:
Has the Foundation made a conscious decision to promote Wikipedia as a
source of news, and if so, what were the results of its discussions
with
the Wikipedia and Wikinews communities? Will the Foundation allocate
any
extra resources to this effort?
would seem to be this: No, there is no particular decision to promote Wikipedia as a source of news. There have, however, been a number of blog posts and communications celebrating Wikipedia's success at providing relatively up-to-date and accurate information on current events. No discussion with either Wikipedia or Wikinews communities took place, or needed to, as this was just another aspect of Wikipedia being showcased on the Wikimedia blog.
As far as I can tell, the Foundation has not allocated any extra resources to promoting Wikipedia as a news source. You are mistaking a couple of blog posts to signify Some Grand Policy Change, but it is not so.
Asaf
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