I was looking for some lichen images on Commons and I was wondering how can I show a grid of images. I tried several options but nothing, I think that there was some hack to make the search results look more like Google images, or maybe I am wrong?
Is this part of the Discovery team work?
Thanks and regards Micru
Hello Micru!
Responses in-line.
On 30 March 2016 at 10:33, David Cuenca Tudela dacuetu@gmail.com wrote:
I was looking for some lichen images on Commons and I was wondering how can I show a grid of images. I tried several options but nothing, I think that there was some hack to make the search results look more like Google images, or maybe I am wrong?
I assume you're looking for something like this https://i.imgur.com/QWQgJmK.png? That screenshot was taken the dialogue used to instead media in VisualEditor. Unfortunately, the search interface in MediaWiki does not offer this functionality right now.
This screenshot also happens to illustrate another common problem with media search; you probably weren't looking for the Basilica of Our Lady of Licheń https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_of_Our_Lady_of_Liche%C5%84 in the village of Licheń Stary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liche%C5%84_Stary in Poland, but there it is anyway!
Is this part of the Discovery team work?
Yes, improving the experience of the search page on-wiki is within the scope of the Search Team in the Discovery Department. However, the team is not actively working on this right now. Improving media search in particular is presently on the roadmap for FY 2016-17 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Discovery/FDC_Proposal#Strategic:_Focus_area_1 (July 2016 - June 2017) as a strategic focus area.
Hope this helps.
Thanks, Dan
Hoi, Hoe does this fit in with the plan to use structured data for Commons? As I understand it, the plan is to use tags for pictures, this will make what pictures depict findable in any language with the appropriate labels. Thanks, GerardM
On 30 March 2016 at 20:02, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello Micru!
Responses in-line.
On 30 March 2016 at 10:33, David Cuenca Tudela dacuetu@gmail.com wrote:
I was looking for some lichen images on Commons and I was wondering how
can
I show a grid of images. I tried several options but nothing, I think
that
there was some hack to make the search results look more like Google images, or maybe I am wrong?
I assume you're looking for something like this https://i.imgur.com/QWQgJmK.png? That screenshot was taken the dialogue used to instead media in VisualEditor. Unfortunately, the search interface in MediaWiki does not offer this functionality right now.
This screenshot also happens to illustrate another common problem with media search; you probably weren't looking for the Basilica of Our Lady of Licheń https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_of_Our_Lady_of_Liche%C5%84 in the village of Licheń Stary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liche%C5%84_Stary in Poland, but there it is anyway!
Is this part of the Discovery team work?
Yes, improving the experience of the search page on-wiki is within the scope of the Search Team in the Discovery Department. However, the team is not actively working on this right now. Improving media search in particular is presently on the roadmap for FY 2016-17 < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Discovery/FDC_Proposal#Strategic:_F...
(July 2016 - June 2017) as a strategic focus area.
Hope this helps.
Thanks, Dan
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On 30 March 2016 at 13:19, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, Hoe does this fit in with the plan to use structured data for Commons? As I understand it, the plan is to use tags for pictures, this will make what pictures depict findable in any language with the appropriate labels.
The Search Team doesn't know the details yet. But, the more structured data there is about files, the easier time we'll have building compelling experiences that return relevant results. That's why we noted the structured data for Commons project as a dependency https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Discovery/FDC_Proposal#Dependencies in the narrative document. I doubt we'd be able to do anything other than trivial improvements to media search without having structured data about the files in place.
Thanks, Dan
Already possible to get a grid of images in commons
Start in Category:Lichens https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Lichens then use the FastCCI tool https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:FastCCI
It returns https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Lichens?fastcci=%7B%22c1%22%3A98...
On 31 March 2016 at 07:30, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 30 March 2016 at 13:19, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, Hoe does this fit in with the plan to use structured data for Commons?
As I
understand it, the plan is to use tags for pictures, this will make what pictures depict findable in any language with the appropriate labels.
The Search Team doesn't know the details yet. But, the more structured data there is about files, the easier time we'll have building compelling experiences that return relevant results. That's why we noted the structured data for Commons project as a dependency < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Discovery/FDC_Proposal#Dependencies
in the narrative document. I doubt we'd be able to do anything other than trivial improvements to media search without having structured data about the files in place.
Thanks, Dan
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On 30 March 2016 at 17:10, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
Already possible to get a grid of images in commons
Start in Category:Lichens https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Lichens then use the FastCCI tool https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:FastCCI
It returns
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Lichens?fastcci=%7B%22c1%22%3A98...
This is great! Wouldn't it be wonderful if our default search experience could be a bit like that, too? :-)
Dan
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
I assume you're looking for something like this https://i.imgur.com/QWQgJmK.png? That screenshot was taken the dialogue used to instead media in VisualEditor. Unfortunately, the search interface in MediaWiki does not offer this functionality right now.
Dan, thanks for your reply. Yes, that is it, actually I saw it on the VE, shame that it is not available for Commons. I guess for now I will use the FastCCI tool as Gnangarra suggested.
Cheers, Micru
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