For clarification, are you complaining about
- SPIEGEL WISSEN for not complying with your interpretation of the GFDL
- Wikimedia Deutschland for not agreeing with your interpretation of the GFDL
- the Wikimedia Foundation for supplying a live feed
It's not only my interpretation of the GNU FDL: Most copyright "experts" in the Wikipedia have serious doubts concerning the so calles "Gentlemen agreement". It's simply false to say that this agreement is consensus in the German Wikipedia.
Klaus Graf
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Klaus Graf klausgraf@googlemail.com wrote:
For clarification, are you complaining about
- SPIEGEL WISSEN for not complying with your interpretation of the GFDL
- Wikimedia Deutschland for not agreeing with your interpretation of the GFDL
- the Wikimedia Foundation for supplying a live feed
It's not only my interpretation of the GNU FDL: Most copyright "experts" in the Wikipedia have serious doubts concerning the so calles "Gentlemen agreement". It's simply false to say that this agreement is consensus in the German Wikipedia.
But your interpretation is not exactly consensus either.
The other case I can think of, answers.com, handles it the same way. So, it seems it is "consensus enough" for the Foundation that serves the content/supplies the feed. This is a cross-project issue; consensus on the German Wikipedia might not be required at all, as the individual projects do not decide about GFDL issues (images are another matter).
You are threatening to sue Wikimedia Deutschland, which probably has the least involvement with this, in a legal sense. If you feel that your content is not displayed according to the GFDL /by SPIEGEL WISSEN/, you should sue them, as the are the ones displaying it. Who knows, they might just decide not to display Wikipedia content at all, if lawsuits are around every corner. Or they'll bash you in court. But, neither will be as much fun or stir up as much dust as your threats to the mailing list, right?
On the moral side of things, here's how I see it. I contribute to Wikipedia to create free content, and I want to see it distributed. SPIEGEL WISSEN will further that. If some minor part of the GFDL, a part that was written for a different situation in a different age and is totally irrelevant for practical purposes, is interpreted a little differently, I don't care. Most people don't want to see the history anyway, and those that do will find it easily enough.
I think the GFDL (or any other free license we use) is important, I just don't stick to every letter of it for the sole purpose of sticking to every letter. But, maybe that's just me.
Magnus
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