Recent discussion of the Knowledge Engine/Wikimedia Discovery project, issues with senior leadership, lack of transparency, and the like has been fairly well spread across several Wikimedia projects and mailing lists, as well as on Facebook, in the media, and in other venues.
I just published an attempt to aggregate some of the events that I think are particularly informative given what's been going on: http://mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/
I hope it's helpful, and please feel free to suggest changes if it's incomplete.
– Molly (GorillaWarfare)
Thank you Molly. This is indeed helpful?
*Steven Crossin* *cro0016@gmail.com cro0016@gmail.com*
On 22 February 2016 at 23:20, GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
Recent discussion of the Knowledge Engine/Wikimedia Discovery project, issues with senior leadership, lack of transparency, and the like has been fairly well spread across several Wikimedia projects and mailing lists, as well as on Facebook, in the media, and in other venues.
I just published an attempt to aggregate some of the events that I think are particularly informative given what's been going on: http://mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/
I hope it's helpful, and please feel free to suggest changes if it's incomplete.
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Yes - very handy - thanks GorillaWarfare!
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Steven Crossin cro0016@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you Molly. This is indeed helpful?
*Steven Crossin* *cro0016@gmail.com cro0016@gmail.com*
On 22 February 2016 at 23:20, GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
Recent discussion of the Knowledge Engine/Wikimedia Discovery project, issues with senior leadership, lack of transparency, and the like has
been
fairly well spread across several Wikimedia projects and mailing lists,
as
well as on Facebook, in the media, and in other venues.
I just published an attempt to aggregate some of the events that I think are particularly informative given what's been going on: http://mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/
I hope it's helpful, and please feel free to suggest changes if it's incomplete.
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minor correction - the ? in my reply was meant to be a period. I'll be keeping an eye on this timeline and watch the events unfold.
*Steven Crossin* *cro0016@gmail.com cro0016@gmail.com*
On 22 February 2016 at 23:37, Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Yes - very handy - thanks GorillaWarfare!
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Steven Crossin cro0016@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you Molly. This is indeed helpful?
*Steven Crossin* *cro0016@gmail.com cro0016@gmail.com*
On 22 February 2016 at 23:20, GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
Recent discussion of the Knowledge Engine/Wikimedia Discovery project, issues with senior leadership, lack of transparency, and the like has
been
fairly well spread across several Wikimedia projects and mailing lists,
as
well as on Facebook, in the media, and in other venues.
I just published an attempt to aggregate some of the events that I
think
are particularly informative given what's been going on: http://mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/
I hope it's helpful, and please feel free to suggest changes if it's incomplete.
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Le 22/02/16 13:20, GorillaWarfare a écrit :
Recent discussion of the Knowledge Engine/Wikimedia Discovery project, issues with senior leadership, lack of transparency, and the like has been fairly well spread across several Wikimedia projects and mailing lists, as well as on Facebook, in the media, and in other venues.
I just published an attempt to aggregate some of the events that I think are particularly informative given what's been going on: http://mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/
I hope it's helpful, and please feel free to suggest changes if it's incomplete.
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Molly... Thank you ! Amazing job.
Florence
GorillaWarfare wrote:
Recent discussion of the Knowledge Engine/Wikimedia Discovery project, issues with senior leadership, lack of transparency, and the like has been fairly well spread across several Wikimedia projects and mailing lists, as well as on Facebook, in the media, and in other venues.
I just published an attempt to aggregate some of the events that I think are particularly informative given what's been going on: http://mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/
I hope it's helpful, and please feel free to suggest changes if it's incomplete.
Thank you very much for creating and publishing this timeline, Molly. I really appreciate that you built the timeline in a way that enables tracking changes and allows for collaborative improvements. Well done!
MZMcBride
Thank you all so much for your feedback! I've just gone through all the suggestions that you've sent via emails, messages, IRCs, and pull requests and am really thrilled with all the help. I believe I'm caught up (for now!) with reading through all that I've received, and I've incorporated many of them!
– Molly (GorillaWarfare)
Beautiful work. Thank you.
Andreas
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 1:06 AM, GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you all so much for your feedback! I've just gone through all the suggestions that you've sent via emails, messages, IRCs, and pull requests and am really thrilled with all the help. I believe I'm caught up (for now!) with reading through all that I've received, and I've incorporated many of them!
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Molly,
How beautiful and open. The categories & a narrative-free presentation makes it especially useful.
SJ
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 7:40 PM, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
I just published an attempt to aggregate some of the events that I think are particularly informative given what's been going on: http://mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/
Yes, very nicely done indeed. I very much like that layout.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 5:20 AM, GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
Recent discussion of the Knowledge Engine/Wikimedia Discovery project, issues with senior leadership, lack of transparency, and the like has been fairly well spread across several Wikimedia projects and mailing lists, as well as on Facebook, in the media, and in other venues.
I just published an attempt to aggregate some of the events that I think are particularly informative given what's been going on: http://mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/
I hope it's helpful, and please feel free to suggest changes if it's incomplete.
– Molly (GorillaWarfare) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Thank you! For providing context to those that don't have it, structure to those who do, and evidence of our values of collaboration, openness, and empiricism. Remarkable thing to accomplish with a timeline : )
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Todd Allen toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, very nicely done indeed. I very much like that layout.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 5:20 AM, GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
Recent discussion of the Knowledge Engine/Wikimedia Discovery project, issues with senior leadership, lack of transparency, and the like has
been
fairly well spread across several Wikimedia projects and mailing lists,
as
well as on Facebook, in the media, and in other venues.
I just published an attempt to aggregate some of the events that I think are particularly informative given what's been going on: http://mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/
I hope it's helpful, and please feel free to suggest changes if it's incomplete.
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Hoi, All the shit from mailinglists is missing. For the temperature aka the understanding of the developments it is certainly as potent as some of the departures. Thanks, GerardM
On 22 February 2016 at 13:20, GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
Recent discussion of the Knowledge Engine/Wikimedia Discovery project, issues with senior leadership, lack of transparency, and the like has been fairly well spread across several Wikimedia projects and mailing lists, as well as on Facebook, in the media, and in other venues.
I just published an attempt to aggregate some of the events that I think are particularly informative given what's been going on: http://mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/
I hope it's helpful, and please feel free to suggest changes if it's incomplete.
– Molly (GorillaWarfare) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 1:30 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
All the shit from mailinglists is missing. For the temperature aka the understanding of the developments it is certainly as potent as some of the departures.
Hi Gerard,
Quite a few of the entries refer to mailing list posts. I am aware that responses to the "An Open Letter to Wikimedia Foundation BoT" thread are missing, and I plan to go through and add the particularly relevant ones later (unfortunately real life—that is, homework—has gotten in the way).
If you think that there are other emails from the list that should be included, please let me know (via email or PR) specifically which and why. Although I do keep an eye on Wikimedia-l and other Wikimedia mailing lists, I know I do not watch them as closely as you or some other members of the list, so your help would be appreciated in identifying the particularly important gaps.
– Molly (GorillaWarfare)
Good Job GW!
Please consider (for later) either linking or making a wiki version for Meta. Thanks for making this effort.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
All the shit from mailinglists is missing. For the temperature aka the understanding of the developments it is certainly as potent as some of the departures.
Hoi <grin> It is not the point but I will explain the point </grin>.
I think GW covered enough relevant points from the list. There are other sources that cover similar comments from here, and sifting through a few hundred long emails to find relevant quotes is going to be a time-consuming activity which will require editorial choices. Choices, which you and others might again disagree with. It's better to just cover big announcements and important messages (important being subjective).
Also, please try to avoid colorful language and be appreciative of someone else's effort.
Regards Theo
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 2:03 AM, Theo10011 de10011@gmail.com wrote:
Please consider (for later) either linking or making a wiki version for Meta. Thanks for making this effort.
I intend to make a Mediawiki-friendly version once real life is out of the way.
– Molly (GorillaWarfare)
Thank you so much for working on this timeline Molly. A beautiful presentation of an ugly situation!
Peter
On 23 February 2016 at 07:06, GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 2:03 AM, Theo10011 de10011@gmail.com wrote:
Please consider (for later) either linking or making a wiki version for Meta. Thanks for making this effort.
I intend to make a Mediawiki-friendly version once real life is out of the way.
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