[Foundation-l] OLPC Khairat Chronicle - Wikimedia-l

Samuel Klein

2 Nov 2 Nov

9:23 a.m.

There is a similar interesting report from Arahuay, Peru, where the population of the entire village has gotten involoved. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Peru/Arahuay But my favorite video is from a student in Uruguay... a pity that it isn't as easy for them to post to commons as to youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOzBTGGVWNg The main barrier to posting such videos to commons is that one needs to learn how to make an upload useful in, and how to include it in, one of the sister projects; I wonder whether a 'publish to Wikimedia Commons' button in the recording activity would be useful or a nuisance. OLPC laptops natively only produce theora video, so the other major barrier to adding video to commons doesn't come up. SJ -- sj(a)laptop.org On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Erik Moeller wrote:

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The "One Laptop Per Child" project has put up an interesting report about a pilot deployment in Khairat, India: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Khairat_Chronicle -- Toward Peace, Love & Progress: Erik

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Samuel Klein

10:50 a.m.

On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Brianna Laugher wrote:

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Wow, reading those stories is really incredible! Great reports with heaps of photos too. Out of interest Inkscape recently added/will soon add a "publish to Open Clipart" function right in the software.

Very neat. Where was this discussed? I wonder how OC is going to deal with the new flux of less-filtered input.

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As for Commons, I think there is a big gap in many ways... but it could be madly cool to see the photos and videos and music potentially published somewhere. An OLPC server?

The easiest thing to do is probably post to a separate [OLPC] server, which can itself have a variety of "publish to [other repository]" links from every media page... the people visiting that server to filter incoming media would be quite different from the communities of teachers and children producing the original works, would be sympathetic to the source communities and know the curation policies for potential target sites, &c. Thinking about this, I wonder what other pools of contributors of free content are currently being shut out from our favorite sites when really we would all be happier with a decent holding area while their input gets sorted. As the world transitions from having little free content of any sort to having to decide "where should this piece of free content go?", the value of intermediary services, and of tools that let you create once and publish {everywhere appropriate}, will grow. SJ -- sj(a)laptop.org

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Brianna Laugher

11:50 a.m.

On 02/11/2007, Samuel Klein <sj(a)laptop.org> wrote:

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Out of interest Inkscape recently added/will soon add a "publish to Open Clipart" function right in the software.

Very neat. Where was this discussed? I wonder how OC is going to deal with the new flux of less-filtered input.

It was one of Inkscape's Summer of Code projects. I read about it here: http://rejon.org/2007/08/20/open-clip-art-library-importexport-in-inkscape/ cheers, Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/

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GerardM

12:22 p.m.

Hoi, The best argument I have heard why the XO is expensive in dollars is that the cost of the XO is not in dollars. If the dollar had maintained its value, the XO would be something like $113,-. Thanks, GerardM On 11/2/07, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org> wrote:

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Speaking of collaboration I was looking to get an interview with Nicholas Negroponte about OLPC, there have been quite a few negative reports about the XO costing nearer $200 than $100. I'd like to offer an opportunity to say why it ended up costing more and cover the reports that have had links posted here. SJ has kindly offered to try and grab some of Nicholas' time and get him answering questions, failing that other project insiders will cover them. I've started a list on my wiki.laptop.org user page, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User_talk:Brianmc#Nicholas_Negroponte_-_Questions_ about_OLPC I'm posting this to foundation-l as well as Wikinews as I'd like input from list readers from other projects. Do Wikipedians have any details they'd like added to the WP article that we can dig up? Do those who've mentioned upload of media to Commons want to ask about making that easier? Engage the grey cells, figure out what you'd like to know about the project, and what might make for interesting reading for the general public. All constructive input much appreciated. Brian. -----Original Message----- From: foundation-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of GerardM Sent: 02 November 2007 11:57 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] OLPC Khairat Chronicle Hoi, I totally agree. What I wonder is what the reasons are why people find it problematic to collaborate as it is. There are so many projects, organisations and it is sad to notice how little collaboration actually exists. Thanks, GerardM On 11/2/07, Samuel Klein <sj(a)laptop.org> wrote:

On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Brianna Laugher wrote:

Wow, reading those stories is really incredible! Great reports with heaps of photos too. Out of interest Inkscape recently added/will soon add a "publish to Open Clipart" function right in the software.

Very neat. Where was this discussed? I wonder how OC is going to deal with the new flux of less-filtered input.

As for Commons, I think there is a big gap in many ways... but it could be madly cool to see the photos and videos and music potentially published somewhere. An OLPC server?

The easiest thing to do is probably post to a separate [OLPC] server, which can itself have a variety of "publish to [other repository]" links from every media page... the people visiting that server to filter incoming media would be quite different from the communities of teachers and children producing the original works, would be sympathetic to the source communities and know the curation policies for potential target sites, &c. Thinking about this, I wonder what other pools of contributors of free content are currently being shut out from our favorite sites when really we would all be happier with a decent holding area while their input

gets

sorted. As the world transitions from having little free content of any sort to having to decide "where should this piece of free content go?", the value of intermediary services, and of tools that let you create

once

and publish {everywhere appropriate}, will grow. SJ -- sj(a)laptop.org _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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Gregory Maxwell

1:29 p.m.

Members of the wikinews glass house are in no position to throw stones at mainstream news sources. On 11/2/07, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org> wrote:

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Exactly. I suspected that was a factor, but nobody has explained that in any of the reports where they go "ZOMG! The '$100 laptop' costs $200". Brian. -----Original Message----- From: foundation-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of GerardM Sent: 02 November 2007 13:22 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] OLPC Khairat Chronicle Hoi, The best argument I have heard why the XO is expensive in dollars is that the cost of the XO is not in dollars. If the dollar had maintained its value, the XO would be something like $113,-. Thanks, GerardM On 11/2/07, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org> wrote:

Speaking of collaboration I was looking to get an interview with Nicholas Negroponte about OLPC, there have been quite a few negative reports about the XO costing nearer $200 than $100. I'd like to offer an opportunity to say why it ended up costing more and cover the reports that have had links posted here. SJ has kindly offered to try and grab some of Nicholas' time and get him answering questions, failing that other project insiders will cover them. I've started a list on my wiki.laptop.org user page,

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User_talk:Brianmc#Nicholas_Negroponte_-_Questions_

about_OLPC I'm posting this to foundation-l as well as Wikinews as I'd like input from list readers from other projects. Do Wikipedians have any details they'd like added to the WP article that we can dig up? Do those who've mentioned upload of media to Commons want to ask about making that easier? Engage the grey cells, figure out what you'd like to know about the project, and what might make for interesting reading for the general public. All constructive input much appreciated. Brian. -----Original Message----- From: foundation-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of GerardM Sent: 02 November 2007 11:57 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] OLPC Khairat Chronicle Hoi, I totally agree. What I wonder is what the reasons are why people find it problematic to collaborate as it is. There are so many projects, organisations and it is sad to notice how little collaboration actually exists. Thanks, GerardM On 11/2/07, Samuel Klein <sj(a)laptop.org> wrote:

On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Brianna Laugher wrote:

Wow, reading those stories is really incredible! Great reports with heaps of photos too. Out of interest Inkscape recently added/will soon add a "publish to Open Clipart" function right in the software.

Very neat. Where was this discussed? I wonder how OC is going to deal with the new flux of less-filtered input.

As for Commons, I think there is a big gap in many ways... but it could be madly cool to see the photos and videos and music potentially published somewhere. An OLPC server?

The easiest thing to do is probably post to a separate [OLPC] server, which can itself have a variety of "publish to [other repository]" links from every media page... the people visiting that server to filter incoming media would be quite different from the communities of teachers and children producing the original works, would be sympathetic to the source communities and know the curation policies for potential target sites, &c. Thinking about this, I wonder what other pools of contributors of free content are currently being shut out from our favorite sites when really we would all be happier with a decent holding area while their input

gets

sorted. As the world transitions from having little free content of any sort to having to decide "where should this piece of free content go?", the value of intermediary services, and of tools that let you create

once

and publish {everywhere appropriate}, will grow. SJ -- sj(a)laptop.org _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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