Hello everyone,
Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the Wikimedia mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized Wikimedia affiliates, groups are required to comply with certain requirements, which are identified in each group's individual chapter, thematic organization, or user group agreement. In particular, the terms of the Wikimedia User Group Agreement and Code of Conduct prohibit user groups from engaging in activity that poses significant risk to other Wikimedia organizations or Wikimedia projects.
As many of you doubtlessly know, the two Wikimedia user groups based in Brazil — Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil — have been engaged in a severe and protracted conflict, which has resulted in significant harm to past, ongoing, and planned Wikimedia movement activities in Brazil. As all reasonable attempts to resolve the conflict have failed, the Affiliations Committee is left with no choice but to withdraw the groups' recognition as Wikimedia affiliates.
Consequently, the recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil as Wikimedia user groups has been revoked, and the Wikimedia Foundation's legal department has been requested to formally terminate their respective user group agreements as soon as practicable. Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts for these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts for any user group application or existing user group for a period of one year.
The Affiliations Committee recognizes that this is an unprecedented and unfortunate development. However, we hope that this step will allow the Wikimedia community in Brazil to work towards a new organizational structure and model that will better serve the needs of movement participants and stakeholders in the country.
Any questions regarding this matter should be addressed directly to the Affiliations Committee.
Regards, Kirill Lokshin Chair, Affiliations Committee
Sad outcome though fair, reasonable and expected. I hope some new group will arise from these ruins.
Vito
2018-04-08 20:19 GMT+02:00 Kirill Lokshin kirill.lokshin@gmail.com:
Hello everyone,
Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the Wikimedia mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized Wikimedia affiliates, groups are required to comply with certain requirements, which are identified in each group's individual chapter, thematic organization, or user group agreement. In particular, the terms of the Wikimedia User Group Agreement and Code of Conduct prohibit user groups from engaging in activity that poses significant risk to other Wikimedia organizations or Wikimedia projects.
As many of you doubtlessly know, the two Wikimedia user groups based in Brazil — Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil — have been engaged in a severe and protracted conflict, which has resulted in significant harm to past, ongoing, and planned Wikimedia movement activities in Brazil. As all reasonable attempts to resolve the conflict have failed, the Affiliations Committee is left with no choice but to withdraw the groups' recognition as Wikimedia affiliates.
Consequently, the recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil as Wikimedia user groups has been revoked, and the Wikimedia Foundation's legal department has been requested to formally terminate their respective user group agreements as soon as practicable. Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts for these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts for any user group application or existing user group for a period of one year.
The Affiliations Committee recognizes that this is an unprecedented and unfortunate development. However, we hope that this step will allow the Wikimedia community in Brazil to work towards a new organizational structure and model that will better serve the needs of movement participants and stakeholders in the country.
Any questions regarding this matter should be addressed directly to the Affiliations Committee.
Regards, Kirill Lokshin Chair, Affiliations Committee _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
That’s very unexpected. I actually have been trying to talk with WMF plenty of times and waiting and waiting for a word from you. Though you probably received lots of emails from me and others, I don’t think I have a single email from you guys about this in my inbox
I have literally implored you to provide me and answer for a few cases opened has been a while in order to have any instruction or advice on how to act in many situations. But that never came.
This is probably the first time I hear from you, Kirill, and I respectfully disagree that one can consider that you did well on it. You just let it all happen and watched this escalate without any help. We were working on our mistakes, we were building our code of conduct, accepted mediation with Millos and others, but the feeling is that we were totally alone on that. Sadly, your actions were always directed to both groups as if you were avoiding to take any side or decision, like you are doing now, taking a general action and not addressing any issue specifically.
I hope this change is for the best, but also hope that you can recognize your own mistakes here as others from WMF did. Just like I don’t think we did well every single moment and try to learn from it, you can’t really believe that you did a good job here. If you do (and that is the impression we have from your message), that is worrying. Then again, I hear from you, after so much time of silence and what I hear is punishment. You can’t probably think that you are being any educational on the matter. Sorry if there is any harsh word above, but that is sincerely unintentional.
Have a good day.
Teles
Em dom, 8 de abr de 2018 às 16:32, Vi to vituzzu.wiki@gmail.com escreveu:
Sad outcome though fair, reasonable and expected. I hope some new group will arise from these ruins.
Vito
2018-04-08 20:19 GMT+02:00 Kirill Lokshin kirill.lokshin@gmail.com:
Hello everyone,
Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the Wikimedia mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized Wikimedia affiliates, groups are required to comply with certain requirements,
which
are identified in each group's individual chapter, thematic organization, or user group agreement. In particular, the terms of the Wikimedia User Group Agreement and Code of Conduct prohibit user groups from engaging in activity that poses significant risk to other Wikimedia organizations or Wikimedia projects.
As many of you doubtlessly know, the two Wikimedia user groups based in Brazil — Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil
—
have been engaged in a severe and protracted conflict, which has resulted in significant harm to past, ongoing, and planned Wikimedia movement activities in Brazil. As all reasonable attempts to resolve the conflict have failed, the Affiliations Committee is left with no choice but to withdraw the groups' recognition as Wikimedia affiliates.
Consequently, the recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil
and
Wiki Education Brazil as Wikimedia user groups has been revoked, and the Wikimedia Foundation's legal department has been requested to formally terminate their respective user group agreements as soon as practicable. Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts for these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts for any user group application or existing user group for a period of one
year.
The Affiliations Committee recognizes that this is an unprecedented and unfortunate development. However, we hope that this step will allow the Wikimedia community in Brazil to work towards a new organizational structure and model that will better serve the needs of movement participants and stakeholders in the country.
Any questions regarding this matter should be addressed directly to the Affiliations Committee.
Regards, Kirill Lokshin Chair, Affiliations Committee _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Extremely sad news. I can't comment on the fairness but it does seem like the best decision has been taken.
Regards,
Isaac
On Apr 8, 2018 9:52 PM, "Lucas Teles" teleswiki@gmail.com wrote:
That’s very unexpected. I actually have been trying to talk with WMF plenty of times and waiting and waiting for a word from you. Though you probably received lots of emails from me and others, I don’t think I have a single email from you guys about this in my inbox
I have literally implored you to provide me and answer for a few cases opened has been a while in order to have any instruction or advice on how to act in many situations. But that never came.
This is probably the first time I hear from you, Kirill, and I respectfully disagree that one can consider that you did well on it. You just let it all happen and watched this escalate without any help. We were working on our mistakes, we were building our code of conduct, accepted mediation with Millos and others, but the feeling is that we were totally alone on that. Sadly, your actions were always directed to both groups as if you were avoiding to take any side or decision, like you are doing now, taking a general action and not addressing any issue specifically.
I hope this change is for the best, but also hope that you can recognize your own mistakes here as others from WMF did. Just like I don’t think we did well every single moment and try to learn from it, you can’t really believe that you did a good job here. If you do (and that is the impression we have from your message), that is worrying. Then again, I hear from you, after so much time of silence and what I hear is punishment. You can’t probably think that you are being any educational on the matter. Sorry if there is any harsh word above, but that is sincerely unintentional.
Have a good day.
Teles
Em dom, 8 de abr de 2018 às 16:32, Vi to vituzzu.wiki@gmail.com escreveu:
Sad outcome though fair, reasonable and expected. I hope some new group will arise from these ruins.
Vito
2018-04-08 20:19 GMT+02:00 Kirill Lokshin kirill.lokshin@gmail.com:
Hello everyone,
Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the
Wikimedia
mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized Wikimedia affiliates, groups are required to comply with certain requirements,
which
are identified in each group's individual chapter, thematic
organization,
or user group agreement. In particular, the terms of the Wikimedia
User
Group Agreement and Code of Conduct prohibit user groups from engaging
in
activity that poses significant risk to other Wikimedia organizations
or
Wikimedia projects.
As many of you doubtlessly know, the two Wikimedia user groups based in Brazil — Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education
Brazil
—
have been engaged in a severe and protracted conflict, which has
resulted
in significant harm to past, ongoing, and planned Wikimedia movement activities in Brazil. As all reasonable attempts to resolve the
conflict
have failed, the Affiliations Committee is left with no choice but to withdraw the groups' recognition as Wikimedia affiliates.
Consequently, the recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil
and
Wiki Education Brazil as Wikimedia user groups has been revoked, and
the
Wikimedia Foundation's legal department has been requested to formally terminate their respective user group agreements as soon as
practicable.
Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts
for
these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts
for
any user group application or existing user group for a period of one
year.
The Affiliations Committee recognizes that this is an unprecedented and unfortunate development. However, we hope that this step will allow the Wikimedia community in Brazil to work towards a new organizational structure and model that will better serve the needs of movement participants and stakeholders in the country.
Any questions regarding this matter should be addressed directly to the Affiliations Committee.
Regards, Kirill Lokshin Chair, Affiliations Committee _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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I wonder if we could turn this to one learning pattern, from what went wrong at first place and what solution you propose to solve it. I think it would help a lot of projects if we could learn from each other's mistake.
Mardetanha
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 1:22 AM, Lucas Teles teleswiki@gmail.com wrote:
That’s very unexpected. I actually have been trying to talk with WMF plenty of times and waiting and waiting for a word from you. Though you probably received lots of emails from me and others, I don’t think I have a single email from you guys about this in my inbox
I have literally implored you to provide me and answer for a few cases opened has been a while in order to have any instruction or advice on how to act in many situations. But that never came.
This is probably the first time I hear from you, Kirill, and I respectfully disagree that one can consider that you did well on it. You just let it all happen and watched this escalate without any help. We were working on our mistakes, we were building our code of conduct, accepted mediation with Millos and others, but the feeling is that we were totally alone on that. Sadly, your actions were always directed to both groups as if you were avoiding to take any side or decision, like you are doing now, taking a general action and not addressing any issue specifically.
I hope this change is for the best, but also hope that you can recognize your own mistakes here as others from WMF did. Just like I don’t think we did well every single moment and try to learn from it, you can’t really believe that you did a good job here. If you do (and that is the impression we have from your message), that is worrying. Then again, I hear from you, after so much time of silence and what I hear is punishment. You can’t probably think that you are being any educational on the matter. Sorry if there is any harsh word above, but that is sincerely unintentional.
Have a good day.
Teles
Em dom, 8 de abr de 2018 às 16:32, Vi to vituzzu.wiki@gmail.com escreveu:
Sad outcome though fair, reasonable and expected. I hope some new group will arise from these ruins.
Vito
2018-04-08 20:19 GMT+02:00 Kirill Lokshin kirill.lokshin@gmail.com:
Hello everyone,
Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the
Wikimedia
mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized Wikimedia affiliates, groups are required to comply with certain requirements,
which
are identified in each group's individual chapter, thematic
organization,
or user group agreement. In particular, the terms of the Wikimedia
User
Group Agreement and Code of Conduct prohibit user groups from engaging
in
activity that poses significant risk to other Wikimedia organizations
or
Wikimedia projects.
As many of you doubtlessly know, the two Wikimedia user groups based in Brazil — Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education
Brazil
—
have been engaged in a severe and protracted conflict, which has
resulted
in significant harm to past, ongoing, and planned Wikimedia movement activities in Brazil. As all reasonable attempts to resolve the
conflict
have failed, the Affiliations Committee is left with no choice but to withdraw the groups' recognition as Wikimedia affiliates.
Consequently, the recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil
and
Wiki Education Brazil as Wikimedia user groups has been revoked, and
the
Wikimedia Foundation's legal department has been requested to formally terminate their respective user group agreements as soon as
practicable.
Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts
for
these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts
for
any user group application or existing user group for a period of one
year.
The Affiliations Committee recognizes that this is an unprecedented and unfortunate development. However, we hope that this step will allow the Wikimedia community in Brazil to work towards a new organizational structure and model that will better serve the needs of movement participants and stakeholders in the country.
Any questions regarding this matter should be addressed directly to the Affiliations Committee.
Regards, Kirill Lokshin Chair, Affiliations Committee _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Given Teles' insight I must admit *I was wrong* in using the adjective "fair", not so much right with "reasonable", while I expected something like this. My apologies.
I may have an incomplete view of the situation but parties didn't deserve the same treatment.
Vito
2018-04-08 21:32 GMT+02:00 Vi to vituzzu.wiki@gmail.com:
Sad outcome though fair, reasonable and expected. I hope some new group will arise from these ruins.
Vito
2018-04-08 20:19 GMT+02:00 Kirill Lokshin kirill.lokshin@gmail.com:
Hello everyone,
Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the Wikimedia mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized Wikimedia affiliates, groups are required to comply with certain requirements, which are identified in each group's individual chapter, thematic organization, or user group agreement. In particular, the terms of the Wikimedia User Group Agreement and Code of Conduct prohibit user groups from engaging in activity that poses significant risk to other Wikimedia organizations or Wikimedia projects.
As many of you doubtlessly know, the two Wikimedia user groups based in Brazil — Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil — have been engaged in a severe and protracted conflict, which has resulted in significant harm to past, ongoing, and planned Wikimedia movement activities in Brazil. As all reasonable attempts to resolve the conflict have failed, the Affiliations Committee is left with no choice but to withdraw the groups' recognition as Wikimedia affiliates.
Consequently, the recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil as Wikimedia user groups has been revoked, and the Wikimedia Foundation's legal department has been requested to formally terminate their respective user group agreements as soon as practicable. Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts for these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts for any user group application or existing user group for a period of one year.
The Affiliations Committee recognizes that this is an unprecedented and unfortunate development. However, we hope that this step will allow the Wikimedia community in Brazil to work towards a new organizational structure and model that will better serve the needs of movement participants and stakeholders in the country.
Any questions regarding this matter should be addressed directly to the Affiliations Committee.
Regards, Kirill Lokshin Chair, Affiliations Committee _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik i/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik i/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Hi Kirill,
Could you clarify what would be a path forward from this situation? For example, would you encourage someone to set up a new application for a user group in Brazil, if they have a good proposal (and/or proven commitment) for how to manage the collaboration with the whole Brazilian community?
I doubt the intention of AffCom is to leave the situation in Brazil to remain broken indefinitely.
Best, Lodewijk
On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 11:19 AM, Kirill Lokshin kirill.lokshin@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the Wikimedia mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized Wikimedia affiliates, groups are required to comply with certain requirements, which are identified in each group's individual chapter, thematic organization, or user group agreement. In particular, the terms of the Wikimedia User Group Agreement and Code of Conduct prohibit user groups from engaging in activity that poses significant risk to other Wikimedia organizations or Wikimedia projects.
As many of you doubtlessly know, the two Wikimedia user groups based in Brazil — Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil — have been engaged in a severe and protracted conflict, which has resulted in significant harm to past, ongoing, and planned Wikimedia movement activities in Brazil. As all reasonable attempts to resolve the conflict have failed, the Affiliations Committee is left with no choice but to withdraw the groups' recognition as Wikimedia affiliates.
Consequently, the recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil as Wikimedia user groups has been revoked, and the Wikimedia Foundation's legal department has been requested to formally terminate their respective user group agreements as soon as practicable. Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts for these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts for any user group application or existing user group for a period of one year.
The Affiliations Committee recognizes that this is an unprecedented and unfortunate development. However, we hope that this step will allow the Wikimedia community in Brazil to work towards a new organizational structure and model that will better serve the needs of movement participants and stakeholders in the country.
Any questions regarding this matter should be addressed directly to the Affiliations Committee.
Regards, Kirill Lokshin Chair, Affiliations Committee _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Hi Lodewijk,
You're entirely correct in that we don't want to see the situation in Brazil remain as it is, and I think there are many potential ways forward here. Certainly, creating a new user group could be one of them; so could a collaborative network of smaller, more localized groups, or perhaps an entirely different structure that doesn't fit exactly into the current affiliate model.
Having said that, I don't believe it's really our place, as a committee, to tell the Brazilian community how to proceed; that decision is one that the community will need to make after considering the specific needs that this affiliate structure must serve and the degree to which different stakeholders are willing (or not) to set aside their differences in order to build it. The Affiliations Committee can advise the community on how to apply the existing affiliate model -- or even on how to transform it into something new -- but it's ultimately the local community that will need to decide what they can live with.
Regards, Kirill
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 2:23 AM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi Kirill,
Could you clarify what would be a path forward from this situation? For example, would you encourage someone to set up a new application for a user group in Brazil, if they have a good proposal (and/or proven commitment) for how to manage the collaboration with the whole Brazilian community?
I doubt the intention of AffCom is to leave the situation in Brazil to remain broken indefinitely.
Best, Lodewijk
On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 11:19 AM, Kirill Lokshin kirill.lokshin@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the Wikimedia mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized Wikimedia affiliates, groups are required to comply with certain requirements, which are identified in each group's individual chapter, thematic organization, or user group agreement. In particular, the terms of the Wikimedia User Group Agreement and Code of Conduct prohibit user groups from engaging in activity that poses significant risk to other Wikimedia organizations or Wikimedia projects.
As many of you doubtlessly know, the two Wikimedia user groups based in Brazil — Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil — have been engaged in a severe and protracted conflict, which has resulted in significant harm to past, ongoing, and planned Wikimedia movement activities in Brazil. As all reasonable attempts to resolve the conflict have failed, the Affiliations Committee is left with no choice but to withdraw the groups' recognition as Wikimedia affiliates.
Consequently, the recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil as Wikimedia user groups has been revoked, and the Wikimedia Foundation's legal department has been requested to formally terminate their respective user group agreements as soon as practicable. Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts for these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts for any user group application or existing user group for a period of one year.
The Affiliations Committee recognizes that this is an unprecedented and unfortunate development. However, we hope that this step will allow the Wikimedia community in Brazil to work towards a new organizational structure and model that will better serve the needs of movement participants and stakeholders in the country.
Any questions regarding this matter should be addressed directly to the Affiliations Committee.
Regards, Kirill Lokshin Chair, Affiliations Committee _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik i/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik i/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Hi Kirill It makes sense to explain a little bit about the conflict management and the position of both sides to define why both groups have been derecognized.
At the opposite this decision will give the feeling that, to attack a local Group, it will be sufficient to create another local Group and to be recognized and to open a conflict and to drive all parties to unresolute it to reach the primary and original goal.
Kind regards
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018, 20:20 Kirill Lokshin, kirill.lokshin@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the Wikimedia mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized Wikimedia affiliates, groups are required to comply with certain requirements, which are identified in each group's individual chapter, thematic organization, or user group agreement. In particular, the terms of the Wikimedia User Group Agreement and Code of Conduct prohibit user groups from engaging in activity that poses significant risk to other Wikimedia organizations or Wikimedia projects.
As many of you doubtlessly know, the two Wikimedia user groups based in Brazil — Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil — have been engaged in a severe and protracted conflict, which has resulted in significant harm to past, ongoing, and planned Wikimedia movement activities in Brazil. As all reasonable attempts to resolve the conflict have failed, the Affiliations Committee is left with no choice but to withdraw the groups' recognition as Wikimedia affiliates.
Consequently, the recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil as Wikimedia user groups has been revoked, and the Wikimedia Foundation's legal department has been requested to formally terminate their respective user group agreements as soon as practicable. Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts for these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts for any user group application or existing user group for a period of one year.
The Affiliations Committee recognizes that this is an unprecedented and unfortunate development. However, we hope that this step will allow the Wikimedia community in Brazil to work towards a new organizational structure and model that will better serve the needs of movement participants and stakeholders in the country.
Any questions regarding this matter should be addressed directly to the Affiliations Committee.
Regards, Kirill Lokshin Chair, Affiliations Committee _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Hi Kiril,
You wrote above "all reasonable attempts to resolve the conflict have failed". It would be interesting to let us have the idea of these reasonable attempts. Why did you think de-recognizing these groups is the best decision? What I understood from Tele's comment is that you did nothing to resolve the issues and you just watched the conflicts escalated. This is probably not a good thing to hear about the affiliation committee.
Regards,
Isaac
On Apr 9, 2018 7:54 AM, "Ilario Valdelli" valdelli@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Kirill It makes sense to explain a little bit about the conflict management and the position of both sides to define why both groups have been derecognized.
At the opposite this decision will give the feeling that, to attack a local Group, it will be sufficient to create another local Group and to be recognized and to open a conflict and to drive all parties to unresolute it to reach the primary and original goal.
Kind regards
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018, 20:20 Kirill Lokshin, kirill.lokshin@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the Wikimedia mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized Wikimedia affiliates, groups are required to comply with certain requirements, which are identified in each group's individual chapter, thematic organization, or user group agreement. In particular, the terms of the Wikimedia User Group Agreement and Code of Conduct prohibit user groups from engaging in activity that poses significant risk to other Wikimedia organizations or Wikimedia projects.
As many of you doubtlessly know, the two Wikimedia user groups based in Brazil — Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil — have been engaged in a severe and protracted conflict, which has resulted in significant harm to past, ongoing, and planned Wikimedia movement activities in Brazil. As all reasonable attempts to resolve the conflict have failed, the Affiliations Committee is left with no choice but to withdraw the groups' recognition as Wikimedia affiliates.
Consequently, the recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil as Wikimedia user groups has been revoked, and the Wikimedia Foundation's legal department has been requested to formally terminate their respective user group agreements as soon as practicable. Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts for these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts for any user group application or existing user group for a period of one year.
The Affiliations Committee recognizes that this is an unprecedented and unfortunate development. However, we hope that this step will allow the Wikimedia community in Brazil to work towards a new organizational structure and model that will better serve the needs of movement participants and stakeholders in the country.
Any questions regarding this matter should be addressed directly to the Affiliations Committee.
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"Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts for these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts for any user group application or existing user group for a period of one year."
And grant requests? I am not privy to the conflict details, but it seems to be generated by the claim of lack of legitimacy and misuse of money, is that correct? So should not also individual grant requests for this primary contacts be blocked?
Agreeing with Ilario, but would be nice to see the "whys" they came to this. Without this deep look, the "Brazil, restart again" will act over and over again - this is not the first time, and will not be the last, until some stakeholders stop relieving themselves of responsibility, admit the mistakes and take a stand to fix the problem, some of it, could be created not by locals... Finished this analyses and actions made Mardetanha proposal will be a consequence, writing now as it is now, I do not see how could be beneficial.
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On 9 April 2018 at 03:54, Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Kirill It makes sense to explain a little bit about the conflict management and the position of both sides to define why both groups have been derecognized.
At the opposite this decision will give the feeling that, to attack a local Group, it will be sufficient to create another local Group and to be recognized and to open a conflict and to drive all parties to unresolute it to reach the primary and original goal.
Kind regards
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018, 20:20 Kirill Lokshin, kirill.lokshin@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the Wikimedia mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized Wikimedia affiliates, groups are required to comply with certain requirements,
which
are identified in each group's individual chapter, thematic organization, or user group agreement. In particular, the terms of the Wikimedia User Group Agreement and Code of Conduct prohibit user groups from engaging in activity that poses significant risk to other Wikimedia organizations or Wikimedia projects.
As many of you doubtlessly know, the two Wikimedia user groups based in Brazil — Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil
—
have been engaged in a severe and protracted conflict, which has resulted in significant harm to past, ongoing, and planned Wikimedia movement activities in Brazil. As all reasonable attempts to resolve the conflict have failed, the Affiliations Committee is left with no choice but to withdraw the groups' recognition as Wikimedia affiliates.
Consequently, the recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil
and
Wiki Education Brazil as Wikimedia user groups has been revoked, and the Wikimedia Foundation's legal department has been requested to formally terminate their respective user group agreements as soon as practicable. Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts for these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts for any user group application or existing user group for a period of one
year.
The Affiliations Committee recognizes that this is an unprecedented and unfortunate development. However, we hope that this step will allow the Wikimedia community in Brazil to work towards a new organizational structure and model that will better serve the needs of movement participants and stakeholders in the country.
Any questions regarding this matter should be addressed directly to the Affiliations Committee.
Regards, Kirill Lokshin Chair, Affiliations Committee _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Hi Rodrigo,
Eligibility for grants is determined by the Wikimedia Foundation's community resources department, rather than by the Affiliations Committee. I imagine that the Wikimedia Foundation may choose to take our decision into account when evaluating future grant proposals, but it's not something that we have any authority to impose.
Regards, Kirill
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:07 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton < rodrigo.argenton@gmail.com> wrote:
"Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts for these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts for any user group application or existing user group for a period of one year."
And grant requests? I am not privy to the conflict details, but it seems to be generated by the claim of lack of legitimacy and misuse of money, is that correct? So should not also individual grant requests for this primary contacts be blocked?
Agreeing with Ilario, but would be nice to see the "whys" they came to this. Without this deep look, the "Brazil, restart again" will act over and over again - this is not the first time, and will not be the last, until some stakeholders stop relieving themselves of responsibility, admit the mistakes and take a stand to fix the problem, some of it, could be created not by locals... Finished this analyses and actions made Mardetanha proposal will be a consequence, writing now as it is now, I do not see how could be beneficial.
x0x0
On 9 April 2018 at 03:54, Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Kirill It makes sense to explain a little bit about the conflict management and the position of both sides to define why both groups have been derecognized.
At the opposite this decision will give the feeling that, to attack a
local
Group, it will be sufficient to create another local Group and to be recognized and to open a conflict and to drive all parties to unresolute
it
to reach the primary and original goal.
Kind regards
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018, 20:20 Kirill Lokshin, kirill.lokshin@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the
Wikimedia
mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized Wikimedia affiliates, groups are required to comply with certain requirements,
which
are identified in each group's individual chapter, thematic
organization,
or user group agreement. In particular, the terms of the Wikimedia
User
Group Agreement and Code of Conduct prohibit user groups from engaging
in
activity that poses significant risk to other Wikimedia organizations
or
Wikimedia projects.
As many of you doubtlessly know, the two Wikimedia user groups based in Brazil — Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education
Brazil
—
have been engaged in a severe and protracted conflict, which has
resulted
in significant harm to past, ongoing, and planned Wikimedia movement activities in Brazil. As all reasonable attempts to resolve the
conflict
have failed, the Affiliations Committee is left with no choice but to withdraw the groups' recognition as Wikimedia affiliates.
Consequently, the recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil
and
Wiki Education Brazil as Wikimedia user groups has been revoked, and
the
Wikimedia Foundation's legal department has been requested to formally terminate their respective user group agreements as soon as
practicable.
Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts
for
these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts
for
any user group application or existing user group for a period of one
year.
The Affiliations Committee recognizes that this is an unprecedented and unfortunate development. However, we hope that this step will allow the Wikimedia community in Brazil to work towards a new organizational structure and model that will better serve the needs of movement participants and stakeholders in the country.
Any questions regarding this matter should be addressed directly to the Affiliations Committee.
Regards, Kirill Lokshin Chair, Affiliations Committee _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Hi Ilario,
We're certainly very aware of the broader context of conflict between overlapping local groups, and the potential for individuals to misuse the user group model as a vehicle for attacking existing affiliates or furthering personal disputes among affiliate leaders or members; there have been several similar incidents in the past -- if, perhaps, none as severe as what we saw in this case -- and it's something we've taken into account when reviewing user group applications in recent months.
One of the main items on the agenda for our annual meeting in Berlin is a discussion about overlapping affiliates -- both in the obvious geographic sense, and in the broader sense of programmatic overlap between traditional geographically-oriented groups and groups that focus on particular topics, themes, or types of partners. Our eventual goal, within the context of the movement strategy discussions, is to evolve our current affiliate model to better serve the needs of the (often overlapping) communities that form the basis of movement affiliates, while preventing the sorts of inter-affiliate conflicts that we've seen develop over the past few years. I don't know, at this point, what this evolved model might look like, but we anticipate involving the community more closely in our discussions as the process moves forward.
Regards, Kirill
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 2:54 AM, Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Kirill It makes sense to explain a little bit about the conflict management and the position of both sides to define why both groups have been derecognized.
At the opposite this decision will give the feeling that, to attack a local Group, it will be sufficient to create another local Group and to be recognized and to open a conflict and to drive all parties to unresolute it to reach the primary and original goal.
Kind regards
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018, 20:20 Kirill Lokshin, kirill.lokshin@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the Wikimedia mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized Wikimedia affiliates, groups are required to comply with certain requirements, which are identified in each group's individual chapter, thematic organization, or user group agreement. In particular, the terms of the Wikimedia User Group Agreement and Code of Conduct prohibit user groups from engaging in activity that poses significant risk to other Wikimedia organizations or Wikimedia projects.
As many of you doubtlessly know, the two Wikimedia user groups based in Brazil — Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil — have been engaged in a severe and protracted conflict, which has resulted in significant harm to past, ongoing, and planned Wikimedia movement activities in Brazil. As all reasonable attempts to resolve the conflict have failed, the Affiliations Committee is left with no choice but to withdraw the groups' recognition as Wikimedia affiliates.
Consequently, the recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil as Wikimedia user groups has been revoked, and the Wikimedia Foundation's legal department has been requested to formally terminate their respective user group agreements as soon as practicable. Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts for these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts for any user group application or existing user group for a period of one year.
The Affiliations Committee recognizes that this is an unprecedented and unfortunate development. However, we hope that this step will allow the Wikimedia community in Brazil to work towards a new organizational structure and model that will better serve the needs of movement participants and stakeholders in the country.
Any questions regarding this matter should be addressed directly to the Affiliations Committee.
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I am very disappointed with this decision and announcement.
Surely anyone who has read this notice must be thinking that Brazil is at war, in wreckage. But that is not true.
Brazil has never produced so much positive impact in our movement as it has now. Both groups have extensively created many very innovative initiatives, making Brazil one of the leading countries among Wikimedia movement:
GLAM reports https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:This_Month_in_GLAM_Brazil_repor...
Innovative GLAM partnerships and projects https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/April_2017/Contents/Braz... https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/November_2017/Contents/B... https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/February_2018/Contents/B...
We spread the wikimedia movement in Brazil through many television participations https://youtu.be/9YOIXPwCqw4?t=46m32s (spreading the Wikipedia and fundraising campaigns), Radio interviews and many publications in Brazilian newspapers, portals and blogs. We organized the Brazilian and International Wikipedia Scientific Conferences, generating lot of new academic papers regarding the wikimedia movement and improving our relation with the academic community. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Congresso_Cient%C3%ADfico_Brasil... https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:IWSC
Such misleading narrative about a “war” has been exaggerated in order to prove to WMF it was a bad call to allow more than one user group in the same region. But it isn’t. Many countries have more than one group. In fact, a fairly amount of healthy competition may lead to more initiatives. Such artificial narrative ended up hurting both sides.
This, of course, doesn’t mean there hasn’t been mistakes and conflicts among specific members. For sure some conflicts were very unproductive and made us spend energy in unfruitful discussions. But most members from both groups were genuinely interested in a peaceful and constructive relationship, being critical of other members’ refusal to mediation, dialogue and insistence on extended personal conflicts.
I have tried informal mediation and requested WMF formal mediation several times. But no formal support was given, just disciplinary measures. This may be something to learn for the future.
We are moving forward with the professionalization and incorporation of our user group since 2016, in a very slow process, with very few answers received from AffCom during this process.
Recent timeline of interactions with AffCom: 19/12/2016 We sent a message to AffCom, regarding our affiliation status update, because we were working to incorporate our user group as requested by the Grants team.
07/01/2017 We received an answer from Carlos Colina requesting more information and our bylaws (originally in portuguese since he speaks portuguese for a first evaluation)
02/04/2017 We requested a conversation with members of the User Group Wikimedia Brazil durgin WMCON (they refused to talk), so during Wikimedia Conference I had a quick conversation with Kirill, about the bylaws sent to Carlos Colina and the general situation in Brazil.
03/05/2017 We received a new message from Aff requesting the translated by laws
06/2017 I requested mediation from AffCom/Iberocoop to have a conversation between both groups during Iberoconf in Argentina as informed in our comments (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Iberocoop:Iberoconf_2017/Preguntas_y_necesid...), User Group Wikimedia Brasil refused to talk, so we had a conversation only with Galileo and Carlos Colina from AffCom and we never received any feedback from this conversation.
26/10/2017 We received a message informing that they received the translated bylaws for evaluation, no comments about conflicts or problem between the user groups were cited.
08/04/2018 We received the revocation notice of our affiliation status
I deeply believe in the Wikimedia movement. We have started and signed several partnerships and projects which be developed during the following years. So, with or without recognition, support or grants from the Foundation, we will continue to work, to advocate for open knowledge and to fix the current situation in Brazil.
We will move on. It will be more difficult and slow, but we will always move forward.
Rodrigo Padula Coordenador de Projetos Wiki Educação Brasil http://www.wikibrasil.org 21 99326-0558
---- On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 15:19:55 -0300 Kirill Lokshin <kirill.lokshin@gmail.com> wrote ----
Hello everyone,
Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the Wikimedia mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized Wikimedia affiliates, groups are required to comply with certain requirements, which are identified in each group's individual chapter, thematic organization, or user group agreement. In particular, the terms of the Wikimedia User Group Agreement and Code of Conduct prohibit user groups from engaging in activity that poses significant risk to other Wikimedia organizations or Wikimedia projects.
As many of you doubtlessly know, the two Wikimedia user groups based in Brazil — Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil — have been engaged in a severe and protracted conflict, which has resulted in significant harm to past, ongoing, and planned Wikimedia movement activities in Brazil. As all reasonable attempts to resolve the conflict have failed, the Affiliations Committee is left with no choice but to withdraw the groups' recognition as Wikimedia affiliates.
Consequently, the recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education Brazil as Wikimedia user groups has been revoked, and the Wikimedia Foundation's legal department has been requested to formally terminate their respective user group agreements as soon as practicable. Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts for these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts for any user group application or existing user group for a period of one year.
The Affiliations Committee recognizes that this is an unprecedented and unfortunate development. However, we hope that this step will allow the Wikimedia community in Brazil to work towards a new organizational structure and model that will better serve the needs of movement participants and stakeholders in the country.
Any questions regarding this matter should be addressed directly to the Affiliations Committee.
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